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Arsenal Leicester – Theo out, Danny out, Ramsey out. Maybe.

By Bulldog Drummond

Yep it is true; you are only as good as the journalist asked to make up another story says you are.  For three days Harry Kane was the Greatest Thing to hit English football since the last Greatest Thing to hit English football.  A Man among men.  A God.  A Towering Genius The Likes Of Which Has Never Been Seen Before.

And that’s all the time he gets.  Because today the headline is “Kane beware – 10 strike starlets who flopped” which is in the Telegraph.

Fortunately for us our greatest star of the moment – or maybe one of our greatest, I should say, Alexis Sánchez will return to the squad tonight and probably to the team as well for the game against the might of Leicester (with whom we drew 1-1 earlier in the season).

If the pattern of our games in the Unbeaten Season (in which we also drew 1-1 at their place early in the season) continues, then tonight they will score first and their supporters will go wild, we will equalise and then get a winner.  One of our goals will be a penalty. At the end of the season Leicester will go down.  The only thing we can’t do which we did last time is go Unbeaten All Season.  That match with Leicester was the final game of the greatest ever campaign, and remains my greatest all-time memory of being at Highbury.

What is different this time is the issue of Football League FFP.  Maybe Leicester are whiter than white or maybe they are a shade of QPR.  Who knows.  Time will tell, assuming they go down.  If not, they’ll live for a while longer.

Interestingly that old muck raker Mourinho has been suggesting that Manchester C is still breaking FFP rules, although his commentary seemed to suggest a serious confusion on his part between Premier League FFP and European FFP.  But then its tough knowing everything when you Know It All.

Mourinho said that clubs should be punished with points deductions, not just fines – but since we are still waiting clarification on Premier League FFP rules that seems a bit premature.  Maybe the special entity from on high had been at the Port again.

Even Mr Wenger was asked to chat about what The Almighty One meant by his proclamation, and (again) in the Telegraph Mr W said, “I think we have a good sense of humour here.

“The financial fair play rules have to be respected by everybody.  And if one club has respected always the financial fair play, (and you can underline always), it’s Arsenal.   So we do not have to talk about that…. It is not clear to people what financial fair play means, the rules are very complicated.

“The Premier League rules and European rules are different. You have to be aligned, so everybody knows exactly what it means… You want clear and simple rules for everybody to understand. If you ask me, and I am in the job, I don’t have a clear idea anymore of what it means.

“I would like the rules to be clear and that everybody respects them.”

And so say all of us.

As for tonight, none of the papers seem at all interested still raving as they are over Tottenham and Man U, so it seems to be just down to me to sort out what is going to happen.

I expect Sanchez to play especially as Arsène also said, “Sánchez will be back in the group. He is our best goalscorer and one of our hardest working players in the team. It’s good to have him back.”

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is however out for another two weeks.  Jack is just back in training but will be out of the squad for some time.

Nigel Pearson the Leicester manager seems to have shaken off whatever it was that happened to him at the weekend in his do-dah with James McArthur, having been sacked and unsacked all in the same weekend.  Or maybe the media got it wrong.  But surely not.  I’ve never known such a thing.

On the issue of Leicester, Mr Wenger was asked if they deserve to be higher up the table (they are bottom as of today).   Mr Wenger said: “Yes, but all the teams at the back can say that. Hull can say that, they just drew 1-1 against Man City. The difference between the teams is very small, it’s just about how you turn up on the day.”

As for today he said,

” The criticism is always there. We have to focus on our performances. I don’t take criticism personally. What I take personally is losing games.  We have a good opportunity to show that we have the strength and quality to deal with pressure.”

For Leicester Robert Huth could make his debut but Schmeichel and striker Chris Wood are still injured.  They have not won a single league of the last 16 games against Arsenal – which takes us back to November 1994.  But they did beat us in the FA Cup in 2000.  We’ve won the last seven games between us and them on our home patch.

And here’s another thing: it will be cheaper for Leicester supporters to watch the game tonight than it was for us to go there earlier in the season.  Amazing!  Impossible!  Arsenal is the most expensive club!  How can this be?  Hush, don’t tell the press.

So what of our form?

We’ve won the last seven home games we’ve played and the last five home league games.  And we have scored 26 goals at Stadium Wenger, which is more than any other Premier League team at home (we are the third highest goal scoring club in the league).

One of the interesting swap arounds from earlier seasons is that we are not getting games in which we endlessly attack lower positioned clubs, they waste time, do rotational fouling and then beat us by getting a breakaway goal.  The reason of course is that we score a lot and so by getting a goal fairly quickly the opposition have to come at us.  Long live Alexis!

Leicester have lost eight of their last ten away games, drawing one and winning one, and are only above Villa in terms of goal scoring.  If they do get one goal they will most certainly shut up shop.

In this regard Villa are in a world of their own (12 goals).  Leicester has scored 21.  We have scored 45.

So to the team, and this is a bit of a puzzler.  This looks ok…

Oooooospina

Bellerin Mert Kos Monreal

Coquelin

Ramsey Cazorla

Alexis Giroud Ozil

But are we really now dropping Theo and Danny?  If not and one of the two of them goes in that forward line where does Ozil go?  He’s getting back to form and scoring goals what else do you want?   Could we really do this…

Oooooospina

Bellerin Mert Kos Monreal

Coquelin

Ozil Cazorla

Alexis Giroud Theo

Now that is a thought.  Aaron Ramsey is, and of course this is just me, not back to his best, and maybe could do with a break.

Then at the back, what about Gabriel.  Are we going to give Kos a break?  And Danny – is he to be on the bench?

As things stand with the above line up on the beach we have some of Szczesny, Chambers, Gibbs, Gabriel, Flamini, Rosicky, Ramsey, Akpom, Welbeck

That’s the trouble with Arsenal.  We’ve got too many players.

Finally, under some New Rules at Untold I am allowed to pick my Anniversary of the Day.   There are a lot to choose from (see the home page) but here’s one that seems particularly poignant.

10 February 1934: After Herbert Chapman’s sudden death Arsenal lost three and drew one of the next four games, but on this day returned to winning ways beating Middlesbrough 2-0 as they headed for their second successive title.

Have a good game.

154 comments to Arsenal Leicester – Theo out, Danny out, Ramsey out. Maybe.

  • Mandy Dodd

    Yes, the media do quite like Kane, but then again, they do big up Spurs players. I remember all the favourable comparisons of Lennon over Walcott, then Andross Townsend……what ever happened to him?
    Quite happy though, think this media love ultimately puts unrealistic pressure on their players, and sometimes their manager. They get built up into things they are not. All very strange.
    Expect a decent win this even, unless we are complacent or unless the pgmo play another blinder

  • habtu

    I don’t think so. the squad is really powerful to win any team. example the fitness and speedity of Ozil, giruod, and Ramsay and walcott
    so it difficalt whe the opposition

  • colario

    “But then its tough knowing everything when you Know It All.”

    I like that.

  • john

    How long before Levy is tempted to sell Kane to RM or PSG for a gigantic fee?

  • esxste

    “How long before Levy is tempted to sell Kane to RM or PSG for a gigantic fee?”

    September at the very latest.

  • Damilare

    Thanks bulldog,

    I was scared by the headline until I read through and found ‘That’s the trouble with Arsenal. We’ve got too many players’.

    That is Wenger’s fault.

    Go, go Gunners go tonight. Hope Mr & Mrs Broeckx are at the Stadium Wenger tonight? Or at least watching from home I think.

    COYG

  • SamuelAkinsolaAdebosin.

    Whether Levy sells Kane to RM, PSG and Barca doesn’t concern me. But of a concern to me is if the boss will sign-on Kane for Arsenal if he would. Yes, why not? Did the boss not sign Sol Campbell from Spurs and Spurs signed William Gallas from Arsenal before? I think the boss should consider requesting the sign-on fee specifically now in advance from the Arsenal management to sign-on Harry Kane in the summer. Before another big internal Club like Man City & Chelsea take him away from us. Besides, Kane has been reported to be a hidden Arsenal fan. He is a Gooner! And he hasn’t categorically disputed that report. The boss should please think very big ahead and makes Kane his major target in the summer. (Save if he finds a better striker to sign) Moreso, if Kane continues with his goal scoring exploits successfully this season which will further boost his ranking. Since we have been looking for a world class rated strickers in the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Rooney for a long time to sing, Kane could be one in the making in our backyard to get. Let see who between Alexis and Kane will score the most goals this season. I think having 2 world beater strikers at Arsenal will be great and finally gives us the long elusive title next season. But I know the boss may have to sell a striker or makes him part of the deal for signing Kane. (not Giroud and Akpom). I think no Gooner has talked against Walcott. I didn’t want the boss to start him at Spurs for precautionary reason. I was apprehensived of another Danny Rose’s tackle on his legs again. What contributed to the Gunners loosing to the Spuds was, we played with only one DM instead of 2 DMs of Flamini and Coquelin for that BIG game. My Recovering Gunners Starts: Szczesny. BellerinChambers/de-AbereuGibbs. FlaminiCoquelin. WalcottOzilSanchez. Akpom. 4-2-3-1 formation. To give others chance to shine and not be too rusty, I am resting the inform Monreal and the lacklusters at Spurs – GiroudCazorlaRhinosackerKoscielnyRamsey and the goals conceding Ospina for Midlesborough visit. But I am sure the boss will disagree with me.

  • SamuelAkinsolaAdebosin.

    Whether Levy sells Kane to RM, PSG and Barca doesn’t concern me. But of a concern to me is if the boss will sign-on Kane for Arsenal if he would. Yes, why not? Did the boss not sign Sol Campbell from Spurs and Spurs signed William Gallas from Arsenal before? I think the boss should consider requesting the sign-on fee specifically now in advance from the Arsenal management to sign-on Harry Kane in the summer. Before another big internal Club like Man U, Man City & Chelsea take him away from us. Besides, Kane has been reported to be a hidden Arsenal fan. He is a Gooner! And he hasn’t categorically disputed that report. The boss should please think very big ahead and makes Kane his major target in the summer. (Save if he finds a better striker to sign) Moreso, if Kane continues with his goal scoring exploits successfully this season which will further boost his ranking. And since we have been looking for a world class rated strickers in the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Rooney for a long time to sing, Kane could be one in the making in our backyard to get in addition to Sanchez. Let see who between Alexis and Harry will score the most goals this season. I think having 2 world beater strikers at Arsenal will be great and finally gives us the long elusive title next season. But I know the boss may have to sell a striker or makes him part of the deal for signing Kane. (not Giroud, Walcott and Akpom). I think no Gooner has talked against Walcott. I didn’t want the boss to start him at Spurs for precautionary reason. I was apprehensive of another Danny Rose’s tackle on his legs again. What contributed to the Gunners losing to the Spuds was, we played with only one DM instead of 2 DMs of Flamini and Coquelin for that BIG game. My Recovering Gunners Starts: Szczesny. BellerinChambers/de-AbereuGibbs. FlaminiCoquelin. WalcottOzilSanchez. Akpom. 4-2-3-1 formation. To give others a chance to shine and not be too rusty, I am resting the inform Monreal and the lacklusters at Spurs – GiroudCazorlaRhinosackerKoscielnyRamsey and the goals conceding Ospina for Midlesborough visit. But I am sure the boss will disagree with me.

  • Dec

    This is the last straw, there can be no doubt about it, this muppet Wenger has to go. What does he think he’s doing, assembling all these world class players and then causing poor Arsenal fans to speculate endlessly and disagree time and again about the best line-up. It’s downright unArsenallike .

    Can’t wait for the next transfer window to arrive so as we can get rid of some of these brilliant players and then get back to some good old complaining!

    Btw
    Hope Alexis has the good sense to keep away from the Leicester technical area tonight. Mr. Pearson might just grab hold of him and not let go.

  • Careful Dec, I had my hand hovering over the “ban him” button for a few seconds there.

  • bjtgooner

    Nice preview.

    With players returning from injury AW will be able to rotate over the next few weeks – something which I suspect he has been planning to do for some time. It would not surprise me if Sanchez started on the bench tonight – he might need to be tied to it to stop him charging onto the pitch!

    @Tony – why “ban” Dec when he could be “keelhauled”? 🙂

  • porter

    Harry Kane ?
    Has burst on the scene and is scoring goals so far. Next season he may be found out. Defenders will have played him and got caught on their wrong foot , they know which way he turns, they will work him out and then we will see if he is the real deal or not.

  • blacksheep63

    Tony I think you’ll find Dec is kosher, it is Ant that is AAA (geddit?)

  • blacksheep63

    As for Harold Steptoe Kane he is a class act and the Spuds are lucky to have him. I doubt they will hang on to him though, Levy will have learned that he needs to sell his starts before their stock falls so I can see him elsewhere before long. I would remind everyone that the next big thing is often (if not invariably) tomorrow’s chip wrapping. Andy Carroll anyone?

  • Dec

    Akb to the core.
    Allez les Gunners. 🙂

  • Gord

    BBC was wrong. Next TV contract isn’t 4.4, it is 5.1 billion pounds Stirling.

    From the story people, we now find out our next hot strike is, Hector Bellerin. Hey, I think he is doing fine at full back. If he wants to get the odd goal now and then, that is wonderful.

    To salute the journalist that came up with this, I will predict that Hector gets the winning goal today, assist to Ozil.

    COYG!

  • TommieGun

    Hi ! Been missing for a while, the Alps’ peaks were calling, like they do every time of the year around February…

    I was sad to watch the Spud match @ the hotel, but to be honest they played a good game and we didn’t make it hard enough for them. Oh well anyway it’s only one match and I’m sure that by the end of tonight order will be restored.

    I hope Loserpool give the Spuds a good hiding – and I’m pretty sure we will bounce back with style outfoxing the Foxes 😀

    COYG !

  • Gord

    From The Independent:

    Arsenal: Ospina, Bellerin, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Coquelin, Rosicky, Walcott, Cazorla, Ozil, Alexis.

    Subs: Szczesny, Gibbs, Gabriel, Flamini, Ramsey, Welbeck, Giroud.

    Which is not quite what either Bulldog prediction was. Looks good in any event, mind you so did Bulldog’s.

    COYG!

  • That’s not a bad line up Gord, beside I love seeing Rosicky on the pitch even if I am a little disappointed Giroud isn’t starting.

    Come on Gunners!

  • Will

    What is it with our defence?

  • Gord

    From Sky:

    > 11 Schwarzer takes his time over the goal kick – a little early to start wasting time…

    Gee, imagine that. 🙂

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooooozil….

    Come on Theo.
    Come on ARSENAL

  • Alex

    not a card…. nice…

  • Gord

    From Sky:

    > 18 Here’s a chance for Arsenal as Upson pulls back Sanchez while he chases Koscielny’s header forward.

    I’m guessing you are commenting on this, eh Alex?

    COYG!

  • Alex

    Gord
    looks like it is..

  • ARSENAL 13

    Oooooooiizzziiillll..

    Yyyeeeeaaahhhhh
    Bosscielny

  • Alex

    mooooore of that please!!!!….

  • Alex

    oh no…….

  • Alex

    hand ball it is….

  • Gord

    From Sky:

    > 29 Real concerns for Arsenal, here, as Sanchez is down after a good challenge by Upson.

    More referee’ing excellence? Good challenge? Or a firmly weighted challenge?

    COYG!

  • Alex

    Gord
    that good old morans rule … you can kill opponent after you touch the ball first…
    just like in “refs book of rules”

  • Gord

    From Sports Mole:

    > 37 min There has not been a single booking in the first period, but we must be getting close as the late challenges continue to pile up

    Close? It sounds like all the late challenges have Arsenal on the receiving end. And Mike Riley 😈 likes it that way.

    Come on Sanchez, keep going.

    COYG!

  • OlegYch

    ffs, substitute Alexis, he’s just barely moving after that tackle
    what is Arsene waiting for?

  • Will

    Again we have allowed our tempo to drop.

  • OlegYch

    damn it’s a pain to watch, anyone got Mr Wenger number?

  • Alex

    yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    2 Ozil shots have resulted in 2 goals for ARSENAL…

    Nicking a living.

  • Alex

    wenger will let him finish first time

  • Will

    Fantastic finish by Theo. Now boys, lets go get them.

  • OlegYch

    goddamnit, Sanchez will end up stretched off the field

  • Alex

    and again…every arsenals touch is a foul….
    but they can do anything to our players….

  • Alex

    and again no cards……….WTF…..

  • Gord

    What does leicester do? Down 2-0, decide to injure every Arsenal player?

    COYG!

  • Alex

    and no corner….
    right in front of moran’s eyes…

  • Alex

    Gord
    no cards…
    so they do what they want

  • Alex

    i just dont get it…
    our players doesn’t see anything?
    they don’t know the rules?
    they do not tired of all this refs bullshit…..!?!?!?!?

  • The dubious/incompetent officials have ruled out 2 good corners for Arsenal – well at least 2.

    The ref also seems to have forgotten his cards at home but I’m sure he’ll find it as soon as he thinks an Arsenal player should get one.

    2 goals up. Let’s finish the job in 2nd half.

    Come on Arsenal!

  • Saint

    What is it with these cheating referees .We have been assaulted all over the pitch.Definitely a conspiracy to stop us winning the league..

  • para

    Has there been any yellow cards at all? Unbeeleevable!!!

    We better be prepared for them increasing their aggressiveness in 2nd half, and move the ball more quickly (Alexis hear me), don’t let them get near you as little as possible, keep moving.
    We should finish it off early, but still remembering when they played Manu.

  • rantetta

    Wrongly awarded corners. Leg breaking tackles. No yellow cards?

    Beachball Jones always allows others to make our players. Today is no exception. Full tilt.

    I’m praying for no injures, though damage may already have been done.

    Well done Arsenal for resisting and playing well.
    COYG

  • Gord

    According to the game specific commentary at BBC, Arsenal have committed 4 fouls to Leicester’s 7.

    Shots are 12:5 in favour of Arsenal, and shots on target are 5:0 to Arsenal.

    COYG!

  • Menace

    Mr Jones is working the Riley way – selective vision and blatant cheating.

    We have to stomach some of this but the fouls on Alexis are disgusting. Upson on his knee was cowardly.

  • OlegYch

    sub Alexis, bring on Danny
    we’ve seen how this lumping on the field ends up (Theo, Wilshere, Ozil)

  • Menace

    The commentator bastard uses the term heavy challenge. I hope someone does that to him. The ‘handball’ was not deliberate.

  • Alex

    yeah…no penalty…
    thats exactly where hand should be…
    nice refferiing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • AL

    not watching but from reading the comments we’re getting stitched again. interestingly tottenham whose players seemingly couldn’t do wrong at the weekend have already picked up twoo yellows at liverpool. can someone keep an eye and see how many bookings leicester players get in their next match. this blatant cheating needs to stop now.

  • Gord

    Well, I just looked over the muppet ridden version of all game commentary at the Babbling, Babbling Crap, and they think there has not been anything other that legal football at the Emirates/Wenger stadium.

    COYG!

  • Alex

    wenger for all this years didnt tired of this???
    clearest hand ball deliberate move….

  • Gord

    Al, that is an interesting thing to investigate, cards issued to opposition after playing any of the top teams.

    COYG!

  • AL

    Even the bbc say t.ere was a huge penalty appeal. anyone who can’t see this cheating is an idiot

  • para

    We need to keep concentration and be sharp else they will surprise us if we get complacent and keep making mistakes…

  • AL

    Yes Gord. I’d be more keen in their matches after playing us though.

  • Will

    Shocking defending there, three players against one and the one wins. Just fucking hammer the ball.

  • para

    well well, like it was scripted, again…

  • Alex

    oh… thats what hand ball is

  • Will

    Sorry but that has been coming, we have basically stopped playing and are walking around the pitch. Now Wenger, earn your corn.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Hahahahahahahaha…

    Now you can grab the ball and pass it to yourself….

  • GoingGoingGooner

    obvious hand ball!!! wow wow wow

  • Alex

    kill him yeah!!!! no card… just kill him!!!
    and again…clearest hand ball when the goal was scored…

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    COYG!!!

  • Menace

    Mr Jones cheats so well with his conversation to fouling Leicester players.

  • Will

    Do we have the wimpiest players in the league? How many times do we get easily knocked off the ball and I am getting fucking fed up with the oh so scared dangle a fot defending, kick the fucking ball.

  • Alex

    oh thank you your bitchesty…

  • GoingGoingGooner

    vasilewski what a thug

  • OlegYch

    well not surprising, since we’ve been playing 10 men against 12 for half an hour already

  • Alex

    nice tactics
    kill the best player
    ref will do the rest

  • Will

    Guys, it’s not always the ref. Sometimes, ourt players are just not strong enough in the tackle.

  • OlegYch

    finally, Giroud
    why did we have to torture Alexis for that long?

  • Menace

    Card for a clean tackle Rosicky.

  • para

    I’m really surprised at the ref, says the commentator. wow.

  • Will

    I can see Leicester scoring again.

  • para

    We need to stop making silly mistakes now.

  • Gord

    Sports Mole:

    > 67 minBOOKING! Rosicky (Arsenal) is booked for a poor challenge on James.

    The worst foul of the game, the one worth of the yellow, is from Rosicky?

    COYG!

  • Alex

    Will

    c’mon…!!!!! please not again………….

  • Will

    I’m sorry people, blame who you want, call me what you want but today we have been shit. Slow, sloppy passing, no energy, no passion or drive and too many passes to a player with his back to goal.

  • Alex

    nobody calls you names
    whats good about your “truth”…AGAIN….
    i see it too…

    so….!?!?!?

  • AL

    Some of you guys amaze me; you see our players getting kicked left right and centre with the ref doing nothing only to get punished at the slightest hint of a foul, and you still have a go at our players?!

  • Will

    So should I just sit here and blame the ref like the rest?

  • Will

    So Al, all those sloppy passes are the ref’s fault. Damn him for making our players play without passion. sack him to hell.

  • Alex

    yes. we’re not as good as against ManOil…
    but ref do his part as well …
    he did let kill alexis.
    don’t give a f… about kicking pushing tackling
    so year.. our players fill that pretty well

  • El Gringo

    I think it’s always fair to blame the ref when the opposition scores because they move the ball out of our defenders’ way with their hand.

  • El Gringo

    And also forget to give obvious penalties.

  • para

    We are a little sloppy and making mistakes. If we stay sharp and move the ball quickly, keep it away from them, this does not happen as often. The ref is another matter.

  • OlegYch

    The ref is shite. Arsene oth let Alexis play while being dead for half an hour…

  • Will

    But el Gringo, there is an old adage we were told as kids and that was…PLAY TO THE FUCKING WHISTLE. The ref doesn’t blow, so don’t stand there waving your arms, kick the fucking ball put of play and then talk to the ref.

  • para

    come one more and we can call it a day.

  • AL

    Will, how do you expect the players to put in a brilliant performance when the conditions to put such a performance don’t exist? Fix that first, then blame the players. Obvious really.

  • OlegYch

    was there even a challenge on Ramsey before he came off? sorry my internet went bust for a moment..

  • AL

    El Gringo,
    And I can also add I think its fair to blame the ref when he lets one team get away with leg breaking tackles.

  • El Gringo

    You’re right with that, Will–most prem players raise their hands and stop playing. But don’t be so quick to blame our players that you forget that the ref didn’t call a freaking obvious handball! Let’s put blame where blame’s due…first for the refs, then for our players too when they don’t play to the whistle.

  • para

    Shoot the ref, shoot the ref.

  • El Gringo

    And then books Rosicky first! We’re not even allowed to play tough.

  • Menace

    The Ref is a cheat but the TV shits are worse.

  • Will

    Oh come on Al, is it the ref who is making our players play at walking pace? IS it the ref who is making us pass to players constantly with their back to goal?

    How man through balls can you count today? How many fast breaks>?

    Yes, the ref is having a shocker and allowing them to kick us but we have players of top international quality, they should be able to beat the BOTTOM TEAM OF THE LEAGUE.

  • Menace

    If I had a gun I would have killed a few!!

  • OlegYch

    Will, how can someone play at his best when he is getting kicked to shit?

  • Menace

    Frigging cheats do it so openly!!

  • El Gringo

    Will, it could be Wenger keeping an eye on upcoming matches. I have long suspected that he tells the team to keep the intensity low when they are winning certain matches so to not expend too much energy in busy periods.

  • Menace

    Amazing how quick the GK takes his kicks now!!

  • Will

    Guys, we were slow and listless in the Tottenham game and we have been here as well. There is no pace in our attacks. Too many times we turn in and back instead of going forward with pace.

  • Will

    Having said all that, the ref does seem to want a draw.

  • blackfoox

    they are obviously allowed to kick us anyway they want T.T

  • Sometimes I really understand my coach, the ref is on our case as always and you take out theo a speed merchant who would keep those guys at bay why bring on Ramsey he was worn out last time, and manure those assholes has orders to be taken to the Champions League. And all our remaining matchwas are going to be like that.

  • Will

    That was a joke decision.

  • blackfoox

    goalkeeper throw ball at giroud… yellow to giroud

  • Menace

    Fucking unbelievable cheat. Booking Giroud for something he didn’t see!!!

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Apparently if the keeper kicks the ball into your back you deserve a Yellow?

  • El Gringo

    Whew! Glad that’s over. Hope no one is too badly injured–but a win’s a win.

  • Alex

    if last 15 mins is not enough… nothing Will help…

  • That was some terrible officiating right there. I don’t succumb to paranoia but I am getting worried with 2 back to back games in which we’ve gotten nothing while being allowed to be kicked off the park.

    Right now I really want Leicester to get relegated. What a dirty dirty team of thugs.

  • para

    We should always strive to not lose control of our game. We became dis-organised after being 2 up. Maybe this is a tactic to not get hurt, but it does not work, esp with a ref like that.

  • GoingGoingGooner

    We didn’t play that well. When our midfielders had the ball our attackers ahead of them were too static. Any creativity had to come from the midfield and our counterattacking was not effective either. Still, we did enough to win. As for the ref. I’ll have to take a closer look but that looked like an obvious handball on the Leicester goal. I wouldn’t call Leicester a vicious club but there were some cynical fouls when we were breaking that were not called. There should have been some yellows much earlier in the match.

    Enough said…3 points…bring on boro

  • Alex

    Bootoomee
    any team (but not arsenal) will use this advantage

    when you can do ANYTHING to the opponent…
    like rose from Twatinham

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Hey Balotelli scored

  • Will

    I agree Bootoomee. We can’t blame everything on the ref as some in here do. The ref was against us, was making strange decisions but think on this.

    That was a team with Theo, Alexis and Ozil up front playing against the bottom team and bottom bt a margin and we really didn’t make many clear cut attempts. Too many times we played the safe ball, the ball inside, the pass back.

    Who said this

    “A team can attack for too long. The most opportune time for scoring is immediately after repelling an attack, because opponents are then strung out in the wrong half of the field”?

  • Alex

    ozil and giroud were pretty pissed by refs decisions
    hope wenger at last try to do something

    lose alexis AGAIN cos ref just don’t want to protect us

  • Menace

    The ref in the Liverpool game is booking the Spuds for fouls committed against Arsenal!!!

  • dan

    Well done to our boys, the ref was out their to fuck us over.

  • ARSENAL 13

    This refereeing bollocks is getting hilarious by the day….

    Come on.
    Even if we play shit as hell, I won’t criticize the players or the manager unless we get a fair even playing field. Until the @#$% @## PGMob

  • Alex

    try to run 90 minutes while somebody will kick you all the time and nobody will tel this moran to stop

    try to work when someone push yo all day…

    thats the truth

  • Menace

    on second thoughts its Dowd so he creates his own rules.

  • Menace

    The evil of PGMO must be addressed. The FA are not going to do anything as they are probably making dosh on backhanders.

  • bjtgooner

    Well, in the end a good three points.

    I have not yet seen the match – was listening on Arsenal player. I did feel that Leicester would resort to thuggery as they did earlier in the season – seems like they did.

    It would appear that too many teams are allowed by the PGMO to kick the daylights out of our guys – with the blessing of Riley.

  • St Totteringham

    I have absolutely had it with yet another disgraceful refereeing display. No other team in the world would have had the booking Giroud got tonight. The keeper kicks the ball at him whilst he’s walking away from the penalty area and the referee deems that a booking? What a joke. How many more soft cards are we going to get whilst clear fouls worthy of cards, like Upson’s in the first half aren’t even awarded free-kicks, let alone bookings.

  • Alex

    and yeah…
    it is hard just to get behind the team. just to support.
    when they do something bad (or just not good enough, or not bad at all)…. they need to know it. right away. they must know that they are suck. cos it’s “THE TRUTH”

  • AL

    Is it coincidence we played well and controlled the games where the other teams didn’t try to kick us off the park(city and villa)?

    Just hope there are no long term injuries resulting from today’s thuggery.

  • WalterBroeckx

    match report or what I could make of it is up

  • Alex

    St Totteringham
    you just don’t get it..
    it is all arsenal’s fault and giroud’s
    arsenal just wasn’t good enough.

  • blackfoox

    commentator’s response: “where did that 5 mins of injury come from?”

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Can you appeal a yellow card that is so ridiculous (Giroud’s)?

  • Va Cong

    sometimes you wonder if some people watch the same game?! ref was incompetent! Can we form a new ref association to take place this horrendous group?

  • Va Cong

    The problem is even the commentating is saying to stop arsenal we have to 2 foot them or get at them. fucking bastards!

  • Will (at 9:20 pm): “So should I just sit here and blame the ref like the rest?”

    No Will, you should just take your in-game incessant whining elsewhere. For fuck sake dude, if you need an entity to unleash your frustrations and anxiety on while watching a live game, then get a dog. Stop crapping your pants on Untold while watching the team try to get result and then whine about being picked on when others tell you to shut the fuck up.

  • Menace

    Girouds card does not need appeal. It should be put in the HALL OF FAME!!!!

  • Alex

    Bootoomee
    that is the answer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gSFEaI4HdA

    1 mil. watched it
    and it was “best” oliver’s game as a ref

    that exactly the type

  • Menace

    Well said Bootoomee! sometimes armchair coaches can get unrealistic. We weren’t at our best. We were being restrained – I was expecting an imagined penalty.

  • Will (at 9:35 pm): “Having said all that, the ref does seem to want a draw.”

    No shit Sherlock!

    But you’ve blaming our players while ignoring the ref all night. What changed your weak mind? Why are you accusing the ref of wanting a draw when you’ve been so convinced that the fault is all Arsenal players’?

    I am just grateful that you aren’t in the stadium spreading negativity. Bloody hell dude, how can you enjoy the game when you are too busy typing on the Internet blaming the players who are supposed to be entertaining?

  • Honestly guys, I have seen a lot of AAA types here that don’t annoy me as much as Will does. When Arsenal is not playing, he posts like a regular Untolder but when we are playing and when cool head, mind and unalloyed support is needed, all he does is whine and blame our players. It is fucking annoying and he does this every game unless we are 3 or more goals up.

    Why can’t he just leave his complaints till after the game like other rational beings?

  • Gord

    OT:

    After everyone seemed to go to sleep, the Babbling Babbling Crap (BBC) put up a longish article or two on the TV deal.

    One article was talking about the EPL doing more for the grassroots. I posted a couple of notes on the Yet more money thread. http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/40894#comment-831637

    A quote from the article below
    > The Premier League was very quick out of the blocks to say it will invest £168m in “facilities and good causes” and build 152 3G pitches.

    My blurb above was guessing an investment of 400 million (2.5 times?) and building a huge number of pitches.
    The quote from the BBC article is about 1 millon pounds Stirling per pitch. The number from a manufacturer I seen, was about one third of a million USDollars per field. Pounds are worth more than USDollars, and the quote from the US manufacturer was probably just the final product, no preperation of the ground. So maybe if sweat equity can get involved, one of these 3G pitches might be had for 333,333 Pounds Stirling? So, instead of 152 we might see 450. If 400 were invested (instead of 168), that would be almost 1100 pitches, so in my original writing I am out by a factor of 10 (I had 10 thousand pitches).

    For me, it is kind of hard to figure out how one might leverage this investment to be lasting if the original
    purchase is only 152 pitches. But the idea is volunteers put in the labour to prepare the fields for the turf, and the localities receiving the new pitches pay a reducing amount of “maintenance” to a trust fund, which would use the maintenance excess to fund yet more pitches, which would pay maintenance ….

    But it would be interesting to see how the manufactures quote of about one third million USDollars turns into almost 1 million pounds Stirling per field.

    The other one has more numbers in it. Apparently Sky is paying 10.8 million pounds Stirling for each game they will be broadcasting. The mentioned that 1.6 million people viewed the North London Derby, so if that viewership was typical (it isn’t), each viewer was worth 6.75 pounds Stirling. I can’t imagine cable channel subscription fees contributing much to that, I think it is mostly advertising which pays that. What does a business spend on advertising, 20%? That would mean advertisers are expecting that each viewer is buying almost 34 pounds Stirling of something just on that one game.

    I wouldn’t spend anywhere near that much money just from seeing an advertisement in a game.

  • Sleekwhale

    I really don’t understand the rules of football anymore coz the refs keep changing it after every game.

  • Sleekwhale

    I really don’t understand the rules of football anymore coz the refs keep changing it after every game. Fouls are supposed to be fouls and corners, corners. Is the Change dependent on the opposition we play?

  • Will

    Ha ha ha Boo

    Do you coodle your children like you want the players coodled?

  • Will,

    Do you whine about yours as they try to get on in life as you do Arsenal players?

    Something tells me that you are a no talent loser trying to get off on the success of others.

    All we ask is that you shut the fuck up during games and stop whining. I don’t think that request is unreasonable.

  • Will

    Something tells me that you are a no talent loser trying to get off on the success of others.

    All we ask is that you shut the fuck up during games and stop whining. I don’t think that request is unreasonable.

    Wow, you are a pleasant chap aren’t you?

    Actually, I was a pretty decent player whu played at a decent semi-pro level but don’t let that stop the insults.

    Do you not believe in calling a spade a spade? Last night we were lifeless and always looked for the safe option of the inside, backwards pass, should we as fans brush over that and shout well played chap or should we say, hey boys, that’s not good enough?