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What is happening to the 15 players who were on loan last year

This article was published at about 8am on 11 May but there were reports from readers that it was not visible, so I am trying it again.

Tony

There were 15 Arsenal players on loan by the end of the season.  Here’s an analysis of them – the percentage figure at the end comes from the vote undertaken by Untold readers a month or so back, in which our grand list of 30 Golden Players who might make it through was presented.

Players who have been rated 0% were simply not on the list.  Other players who were listed and highly related include Coquelin (23%) Eastmond (56%), Merida (48%), Mannone (19%) and Wellington Silva (26%).

Please note that these are only the players who were on loan as the season ended, so some who came back earlier were excluded.

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Luke Ayling – Yeovil Town

Three substitute appearances for the defender.  This was an end of season loan for one of the guys who has been with the club for eight years, and who was in the double winning youth team last year.

Chance of playing in first team next season: 0%

Kyle Bartley- Sheffield United

A centre back who played nine times plus four sub appearances between February and May. Another youth cup winner.

Chance of playing in first team next season: 15%

Pedro Botelho – Celta Vigo

25 appearances and one goal for Celta Vigo where he was all season.  A Brazilian left back who has also played on the wing.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 2%

Jay Emmanuel-Thomas – Doncaster Rovers

12 starts, and one sub appearance between March and May, resulting in great reviews and five goals.  Captain of the youth double winners, he can apparently play anywhere, but midfield seems to be best.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 60%

Kerrea Gilbert – Peterborough United

During the season of the seven left backs he played a number of games at Highbury, and looked a solid defender, but since then he’s been on loan all over the place and hasn’t developed.

8 appearances and two as sub between mid January and the end of the season at a relegated side is not that wonderful for a 23 year old.  If his contract is now up, he will presumably go.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

Gavin Hoyte – Brighton and Hove Albion

Hoyte the younger got 18 starts and 2 appearances as a sub between October and May, and before that was reserve team captain.  But there is a feeling that as he now reaches 20, he hasn’t quite made the cutting edge.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

Henri Lansbury – Watford

34 appearances and four as a sub, plus five goals in a season long loan at Watford where he looked very sharp.  Turned up in the final game and played for the first team at Arsenal, very powerful midfielder who can turn on every trick under the sun, and then score.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 12%

Havard Nordtveit – Nurnberg

19 starts in a season long loan, although there was debate about which position he was being given.  This was his second season on loan, having captained the reserve side.  Now 20, and a lot is expected of this centre half.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 26%

Mark Randall – MK Dons

12 starts and five appearances as sub between January and end of the season, it looks like his time has come and gone.  He played in the last game of last season, but there has always been talk of his attitude, and maybe that’s the problem.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

Philippe Senderos – Everton

Following a loan spell with AC Milan, there was one start and one appearance as substitute between January and the end of the season – in fact nothing since February.   So what went wrong?  Was he injured, or has the form utterly deserted him?

There’s no sign that he has any way back.

Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

Jay Simpson – QPR

The feeling is that he is good but not good enough, and with us buying another forward this summer, his time has come and gone.

He started 38 games for QPR and came on as sub in 3 more, and scored 13 goals so he can do it one league down, but perhaps not in the EPL.

Chance of playing in first team next season: 7%

Gilles Sunu – Derby County

Six starts and 3 as sub, plus a goal for our forward, who is very highly rated.  He’s 19, won the double last year, and has played in the league cup side.

Chance of playing in first team next season: 11%

Wojciech Szczesny – Brentford

Started 26 games after moving to Brentford in late November, and rated by many readers as the man who should be forcing his way into our team.

Chance of playing in first team next season: 42%

Sanchez Watt – Leeds United

Just one start and four substitutions, following his loan in late March, for our 19 year old double winner who scored in both legs of the Youth Cup final last season.  He’s both a winger and a centre forward.

Chance of playing in first team next season: 13%

Jack Wilshere – Bolton Wanderers

Bolton want him back for another round of games next season after Jack started 11 times and came on once as a sub between February and the end of the season.  He got one goal and seemed to be calming down a bit.

Chance for playing in first team next season: 96%

(c) Tony Attwood 2010.

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24 comments to What is happening to the 15 players who were on loan last year

  • Gooneraside

    Thanks Tony,
    Article well worth waiting for.
    IM(not-so-H)O, Sanchez Watt, Lansbury, Szczesny and Nordtveit may now have upped their %’, although Wilshere is still favourite to play.

  • walter

    Good article Tony.

    I still have the highest hopes for Wilshere. From the first moment I saw him play he looked like a left footed Dennis Bergkamp to me.
    He also has that little bit of venom in him, just like DB used to have sometimes.
    The thing I fear most is that he is being hyped to much. Now wait a minute…that is just what I was doing myself in fact…

    He can do it all, he maybe is one of the most talented players but he had to learn not to dribble everyone and then start all over again before releasing the ball or take a shot. When I saw him play with Bolton he gave the impression to have become more a team player instead of wanting to do it all by himself.
    I think Szczesny will have his chance in pre season and who knows if the performs well he might get his chance?

  • slugboy

    I don’t know if wenger will go another season without an absolute, cast-iron International GK, but szcesney might be first sub and hence may get a few games.

    To make space, I think some of the first teamers may be offloaded (Eduardo, Vela, (Clichy???), Gallas (will offload himself), Senderous, Fabianski, Almunia, Silvestre)

    I agree that wilshire will be closest of the all, but think that JET will also be there, especially with Ramsey’s injury.

    Bartley and Nordveit might move closer with the probable departure of Gallas, Silvestre and Senderous.

    Eastmond and Coquelin have a chance I think to push nearer the first team. Not sure Barazite will displace any of the first teamers.

    Don’t think Randall, Gilbert, Hoyte, Lansbury, Ayling, Simpson will make it and may be let go/transferred.

    Sunu will get closer next year.

    It’s good to see some of the talent come through

  • i like this article the most …Yeah its really frustrating is that we have more youth players but only two players are having a more than half a chance for playing with arsenal..it is too bad…We still have to bring more special talent like barca did..may be one day we may have a messi like player in our youth and kick our opponents..

  • walter

    Just seen the first half of the youth team play off and boy do they look great. A part from two quick counter attacks in the first minutes nothing to see from Forrest and some 75 % posession to Arsenal. 2- 1 up at half time
    Goonersaur even if we have only 2 players coming from the youth every season that is I think more than the average in any other team in the PL. That would mean that in 5 years on you could pick a first team with all own youth team players.

  • 8 inch knob

    Yes and that player is Eden Hazard, who we should break the bank for.

  • Remember that the key is not just to have a first team – but a second first team to cope when we have the entire spine of the team out, or the whole defence out, or when we need 7 left backs in one season…

    That’s what we need – enough players to be able to cover the injury gaps and rotate as well.

    Tony

  • 8 inch knob

    that was meant as a reply to Goonersaur.

    A sizeable investment now in some top quality players and we may not have to spend for many years to come.

  • DarkPrince

    I think only a couple of these would make it…u hav a limit of 25 players in ur 1st team…n i cant see almunia, fabiansky, denilson or rosicky leavin…wilshere n lansbury look fav…rest all will hav to be satisfied with carling cup and/or fa cup

  • 8 inch knob

    Allow Silvestre to leave
    Allow Senderos to leave
    Loan Merida
    Loan Fabianski (priority)
    Sell Rosicky
    Sell Eduardo

    Buy Micah Richards
    Buy Sakho
    Buy Hazard
    Buy Chamakh (done)

    ………………….**1**/Szczesny/Mannone……………….
    ………………………………………………………
    …………Campb/Gal/Djo/Nord/Bart….Verm/Sak/Gal…………
    ………………………………………………………
    ………………….Song/Sakho/Djou/Frim…………………
    .Sagna/Richards/Eboue………………….Cli/Gibbs/Tra/Sak…
    ……………..Diaby/Denil/JET/Aneke/East/Coq…………….
    ………………………………………………………
    …………..Fab/Nas/Diab/Wils/JET/Lans/Rambo/Aneke………
    ………………………………………………………
    .Haza/Walc/Cham/Bendt/Ebo/Watt…..Ars/Vela/Haz/Wils/Gibs/Tra..
    ………………………………………………………
    …………………VanP/Cham/Bendt/Afobe…………………

  • Venky

    I am convinced that wilshere will be on loan for six months at Bolton. W….. S….. Will definitely make it to first team if we don’t buy a GK. Lansbury, JET, Eastmond, Sunu, Watt would all be closer. If Wellington is available I am sure he ‘ll be there

  • Rhys Jaggar

    Don’t know if any of you yet watched Gazidis’ Q+A with AST yesterday, which is now on arsenal.com?

    An interesting set of discussions which may add to this debate……

  • walter

    5-3 the final score for the yout team. Entertaining game but must say that Forrest managed to score 3 goals from 5 shots in total. I think we had some 25 shots to score5.

  • tim

    an entertaining match, indeed. aneke and afobe look great.

  • Gooneraside

    Walter:
    Thanks for the result. At least we managed 25 shots.

  • Maverick

    Anyone know much about Nacer Barazite? He looked very promising to me, he reminded me a little of Henry in how he plays…….ain’t seen much of him for a while i really hope he breaks into the 1st team at some point i feel he has some quality to work with.

  • Dark Prince I think you are wrong in your understanding of the 25 rule. But I also noticed that a couple of web sites have done “Wenger can’t sign anyone because of the 25 rule” article, so I will re-run our definitive 25 rule article, with the names of the kiddies put in.

    But in simple terms, kiddies under 21 don’t count in the 25

  • eduardo

    My view on each of them is

    Luke Ayling – Yeovil Town
    Needs a full season out on loan, maybe two, and even then its doubtful he will make it at Arsenal
    Chance of playing in first team next season: 0%

    Kyle Bartley- Sheffield United
    Well ahead of Ayling in the pecking order and in his developement, a season loan may also be on the cards but would not be suprised if we keep him till CC run is over,
    Chance of playing in first team next season: 25%

    Pedro Botelho – Celta Vigo

    He has played left back, left wing back, left wing and left central midfield, being versatile may mean he has more chance, not seen enough to be sure if he will join this summer or go for another year out on loan
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 10%

    Jay Emmanuel-Thomas – Doncaster Rovers
    A brilliant talent, may need an FAPL loan spell before he is ready to challenge for regular firt team squad place, expect him to stay till CC run is over, then loan out
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 90%

    Kerrea Gilbert – Peterborough United
    For me he is as good as gone, no chance he will be kept
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

    Gavin Hoyte – Brighton and Hove Albion
    Needs another season loan, but at higher level, championship level at least, doubt he will make it at Arsenal
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

    Henri Lansbury – Watford
    Outstanding prospect, impressive with Watford, for me ready to challenge for a first team squad role, has bulked up this year and he will almost certainly stay till CC run is over, and may very well get in squad ahead of Eastmond and Colquelin(I expect both of these to go on loan next season)
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 90%

    Havard Nordtveit – Nurnberg
    Would like to see him be our back up DM, he is probably a little slow for CB, and has outstanding passing range, great slide tackler, versatile, can play rb, cb and DM, almost sure to see him in CC
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 75%

    Mark Randall – MK Dons
    I think he has blown his chance, can see him being sold this summer
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

    Philippe Senderos – Everton
    As good as gone
    Chance of playing in the first team next season: 0%

    Jay Simpson – QPR
    Dont think he will cut it at Arsenal, but might be worth getting him a FAPL loan next season after our CC run is over
    Chance of playing in first team next season: 10%

    Gilles Sunu – Derby County
    Not ready yet, needs a season long loan, if possible with a FAPL side
    Chance of playing in first team next season: 10%

    Wojciech Szczesny – Brentford
    I have never seen a better goalkeeping prospect, has everything to become a world beater, sooner he is added to first team squad the better, but if he aint going to get games it might be best to get him a loan with a FAPL side or a high ranking championship side, should be lots of takers
    Chance of playing in first team next season: 50%

    Sanchez Watt – Leeds United
    Not near ready yet, needs a season loan, maybe leeds for the season might be good
    Chance of playing in first team next season: 15%

    Jack Wilshere – Bolton Wanderers
    For me a carbon copy of Liam Brady, would have him in our side ahead of Rosicky, or Eboue,
    Chance for playing in first team next season: 100%

    Don’t be suprised to see Colquelin, Eastmond, Murphy, Cruise and maybe Mannone all go out on loan next season, plus there is a chance frimpong and others may go out too

  • Maverick

    Is Barazite still an arsenal player?

  • AaronGSi

    Looks like Forest have been thumped twice tonight!!
    Well done to the Arsenal Youth team. Great result

  • sameep

    there is no doubting talent of Jack but why I don’t know, I feel something great whenever I read or see of Lansbury…he has some flashes of Lampard-Gerrard type of midfielder…

  • lordgunner

    Eduardo i m sorry but you never see luke ayling play.he is more talented than Bartley and for me without the injury he could have broken in the first team this year.he is calm under pressure ,rarely make mistake and good thecnic.A english version of Laurent Blanc.

    Wilshere maybe but now he want first team football so go on loan,i think Lansbury is the next to break in the first team next year and a surprise could be Freeman.i really like him.

  • walter

    Freeman is a hard working striker. Yesterday I saw him running back the whole way to his own goal if needed. Maybe that is why he missed a few chances in front of goal. Afobe got 3 but Freemand could have had more.

  • eduardo

    lordgunner I have seen Ayling play about ten times, he is talented, but I have it on good authority that Bartley is the one that the coaching staff have the most hope for to become a first teamer at Arsenal, Ayling as you say has had a bad injury, and this may be a reason why he has not pushed on as much as Bartley, but he has failed to make an impression so far with Yeovil, and even the fact that he is with a club like yeovil while KB is at Sheffield Utd shows that Ayling is behind in development, hopefully he will establish himself while on a season long loan next year, probably at Yeovil and that he can fulfill his potential