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Arsenal seeking sixth consecutive Wembley win since spring last year

By Bulldog Drummond

I have not noticed anyone mention, in the build up to today’s overture to the season, that since the spring of 2014 Arsenal have played five and won five at Wembley.

2014:

  • Arsenal 1 Wigan 1 (4-2 on penalties) FA Cup semi-final
  • Arsenal 3 Hull 2 (after extra time).  FA Cup final
  • Arsenal 3 Man City 0.  Community Shield.

2015:

  • Arsenal 2 Reading 1 (after extra time).  FA Cup semi-final
  • Arsenal 4 Aston Villa 0.  FA Cup final

No club has ever achieved that before.  And indeed Arsenal’s record in the Community Shield and its ill-named predecessor is good.  12 outright wins, beaten only by Man U who have 16.  (For a few years drawn matches were not extended and clubs that drew could claim to have half-won the “shared” trophy – I have excluded these from the total).

Chelsea have won it four times,of which three are this century.  Arsenal have also won it three times this century.

So, we’ve had all the “winning mentality” stuff, the “Wenger out” mob have been quieter than usual, the “DONE DEALS” little blogs are constantly churning out deals that are never done.   We were told throughout, and some still stay, that we needed to buy loads and loads of new players.   And we have sailed through it all to get ready for a new season…

We were even endlessly told that Ospina was on his way out, but it turns out he wasn’t.  All we are waiting for is the apologies from all the people that saw him at the airports.   Although, perhaps he is a plane spotter.

But now, suddenly when people look at our team, they say, “hey, that is not a bad team”, and of course, it isn’t.

Indeed The Daily Telegraph, house magazine of both PGMO, (the ref’s association), and Chelsea FC, did a comparison player by player between what they took to be the two XI’s playing today.  Each player was given a mark out of 10.  Arsenal totalled 88 and Chelsea 91, and if even the Telegraph can’t give them more of a lead than that, then there is clearly a closeness between the two – as we all knew anyway.

In fact the only reason Arsenal didn’t beat Chelsea in this “analysis” (I use the word lightly) was because they couldn’t give a rating to Alexis, and have the Ox in the team – who they don’t rate.

So here is the team that they lined up

Cech

Bellerin, Mertersacker, Koscielny, Monreal

Coquelin, Cazorla

Ramsey, Ozil, the Ox

Giroud.

Which leaves a bench including Debuchy, Gibbs, Gabriel, Wilshere, Walcott, Martinez, Chambers and Arteta.

I can’t really argue with that.

Just so you know, here’s how they accounted for each team member out of ten.

  • Cech: 9
  • Bellerin: 7
  • Mertersacker: 8
  • Koscienly: 8
  • Monreal: 8
  • Coquelin: 8
  • Cazorla: 8
  • Ramsey: 9
  • Ozil: 9
  • Oxlade Chamberlain 7
  • Giroud 7

Actually it is worth just adding one comment from the Telegraph’s preview regarding Coquelin:

 He was utterly brilliant in the second half of last season and fully deserves to keep his spot.

That’s why you are better off reading Untold than the Telegraph.  With us you know this stuff seven years in advance.

We all know of course that today doesn’t really matter much, and that if we lost 10-0 today and won the league it would be a very successful season.  It would be nice to beat Chelsea, but I would sooner have us beat Chelsea home and away in the league instead.  That would after be worth 12 points according to those who do that sort of funny maths.

Overall if you have been reading the series on pre-season games on the Arsenal History site (and if not why not?) you will know that pre-seasons don’t really tell us much – and nor do Community Shield wins.  Here’s the most recent records…

  • 2014: Won Community Shield, then came 3rd in the league, won FA Cup
  • 2005: Lost Community Shield, then came 4th in the league, league cup semi-final
  • 2004: Won Community Shield, then came 2nd in the league, won FA Cup
  • 2003: Lost Community Shield, then won the league unbeaten, FA Cup and league cup semi-final
  • 2002: Won Community Shield, then came 2nd in the league, won FA Cup
  • 1999: Won Community Shield, then came 2nd in the league.
  • 1998: Won Community Shield, then came 2nd in the league, FA Cup semi-final

So yes, winning is better but a replica of 2003 wouldn’t go amiss.  At least not from where I sit in the stadium.

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From the Anniversaries file…

  • 2 August 1934: Lt Col Sir Henry Norris, the man who rescued the club from bankruptcy, paid for Highbury, brought in Herbert Chapman and created the modern Arsenal was laid to rest in the cemetery at East Sheen.

A full list of the major anniversaries each day are carried on the home page of Untold.

 

96 comments to Arsenal seeking sixth consecutive Wembley win since spring last year

  • m marshall

    The Chelsea manager’s comments are beginning to be tiresome. Isn’t it time that the F.A introduced a charge against those guilty of unprofessional conduct.

  • Sindy

    Nice Dogbull. For me its a footballing feast 2day. Will rooted for the Under 19s (appetiser) 1 hr to come. The big one (main meal) after. What a treat!

  • TailGunner

    The scores the Telegraph have given us are quite impressive with 7 ( usually considered a high mark ) being the lowest. I’ve not checked their scores for Chelsea, but they are obviously predictavely high.
    Numbers eh! Doncha just love em!

  • Matheson

    Its gonna be pretty good splendid game if we triumph over chelsea today @least to break Mourinho winning against us… I think the telegraph comparism is pretty cool…

  • para

    “I would sooner have us beat Chelsea home and away in the league instead”,
    NO NO, we want it ALL now.

    Beat them today, and twice PL (could be up to 4 times) in this season though.

    COYG.

    As i say, play them at their own game. If they park, then we park too, keep the ball and make them run around.

  • TailGunner

    Does anyone have any info on Wilshere’s injury as reported ( with no detail ) in The Sunday Mail?

  • Mandy Dodd

    Roy Keane, a man in his mid 40s who sounds like an old fart in his 80s. Surprised he knows what a selfie is.

  • Samrat Jha

    does anyone know any streaming sites? gonna be away from home tonight.

  • para

    Mandy Dodd 🙂

    Why are they all talking about Arsenal? They must be shh aa kk iing. Let them begin to FEAR us again, yes.

  • nicky

    Haven’t yet heard the name of the referee. All I hope is that he’s strong and fair and not afraid to book Cahill, Terry and Fabregas if warranted. 😉

  • From the Arsenal.com site Mr W says…

    Ospina has just come back to training today. Alexis is coming back next weekend. Everybody else should be available apart from Welbeck.
    on whether the squad are ready after a shorter pre-season…
    The preparation was compact, short, but physically we are not far away.

  • Nicky, I am sorry to disappoint you. Have a look at the previous post on Untold – in the commentary section

  • Oh and in case you didn’t know, Walter is featuring on Arsenal.com

    A preview of things to come…

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150728/a-preview-of-things-to-come

  • Arsenal:

    Cech,
    Bellerin, Mertesacker (c), Koscielny, Monreal,
    Coquelin, Ramsey,
    Cazorla,
    Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ozil, Walcott.

    Subs: Debuchy, Gibbs, Gabriel, Arteta, Giroud, Martinez, Iwobi

  • TailGunner

    So it looks as though Santi is on the left of the front three, with Ozil in the hole and Coq & Ramsey doing the defensive stuff with Ramsey getting forward in support when possible. Theo leading the attack. Looks good to me.

  • Sindy

    Under 19s starting: Hugo, Willock. Plezeguelo, O’ Connor, Sheaf, Bola, Robbinson, Zelalam, Moore, Eyoma, Hinds,

  • Sindy

    Howler by the keeper allows PSV to take the lead.(39 mins)

  • ARSENAL 13

    There goes Ramirez

  • ARSENAL 13

    Hahahahahahahaha… Whats the free kick for….getting hit with a ball!!!

  • Al

    Taylor is a fucking disgrace!!!!! Santi gets trod on under his nose and he doesn’t see it as a foul. Ramsey’s block canons off his head and he blows for a foul?!

  • para

    If you “touch” Coc then we “touch” Cesc.

  • Al

    Sometimes I wonder why we even waste our time with this rigged league. It really feels like contesting elections in a third world pariah state.

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    COYG!!!!!!!!!!!

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Right now, Chelsea are filling the passing lanes better than us.

  • para

    Theyare trying to take our key players out, but we are giving it back too. good

  • finsbury

    Al
    Foul on Özil = no foul
    Spli second later
    Foul on the F Word = foul

    A.Taylor. He ain’t half a transparent bungler.

  • ARSENAL 13

    How many before Ramirez gets one

  • para

    I hate Chelsea. See them deliberate kicks, elbows, and shin scrapes? They have a different plan today.

  • finsbury

    I wonder how and why AFC pick up so many injuries?
    It’s a mystery!

    Ramires again on 21 minutes. No surprises he got the start today. Will he get the yellow he’ll have earnt at some point before the 87th minute?

  • Al

    Finsbury
    And just now ivanobitch rakes his studs down Santi’s ankle and not even a yellow. This is beyond ridiculous.

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Ox!!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ox ox ox ox ox ox ….yyyeeeeaaahhhhh.

    One up theirs hahahahahahahaha.

    Fouling jerks

  • Gooneress No1

    What a wonderful goal from Arsenal – Go on Ox.

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    get in therrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeee!!! Nice one the OX!!!

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Walcott, nice run across the box to open up space for the Ox.

  • finsbury

    Ohhh Walcott almost twists and twines Ivanovic inside the area cutting in from the left.
    Puts on the pressure. And they say he can’t dribble?

    Chamberlian follows up and obliges with a fantastic left footed finish cutting in from the right!

    Arsenal!

  • para

    Well done OX, lost me stream for a min then.

  • Al

    Brilliant goal from the Ox!

    We might be leading but I’m far from happy. Seen 3 tackles that could spell a long time on the sidelines for our players already go unpunished….

  • GoingGoingGooner

    I like the way our midfielders are getting stuck in.

  • para

    Our defense are not using the width. careful now. Be sharp. don’t let them score hear me?

  • para

    GoingGoingGooner: 🙂 we have to let them know we see their kicks and give it them back.

  • Gord

    Good morning all (it’s 8:30 here). Game not on TV, and I tried one stream. A maze of cross sites and javascript to figure out, bleech! Guardian started the day, saying Alexis was injured. I guess they don’t understand vacation. At least Guardian is saying that Arsenal is being fouled occasionally.

    COYG!

  • para

    Defense is not sharp. come on lads, we’re 1 up.

  • para

    Gord, forgot to say, when you click the boxes away and page changes, just ust the back button and all will be well.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ozil….. ARSENAL are not supposed to get fouls….

  • ARSENAL 13

    Hahahahahahahaha hilarious Ivanovich dive……

  • TailGunner

    A very good half by us despite some card worthy fouls by Chelsea. Taylor on his usual form.

  • finsbury

    Two dives in succession from the typical Gazprom mercenary, that ‘ard man, Ivanovic. One whilst defending from Monreal following a brilliant counter, the other whilst attacking and attempting to get past that notorious bruiser Cazorla.

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    Yep, Arsenal looking good so far.

  • ARSENAL 13

    What pathetic excuses we get to hear!!!…

    Because ARSENAL are ahead in their preseason preparation.
    Because Chelsea had a game on Wednesday and again on Wednesday.

    Seriously.!!!!!!..

    I thought dates of the season opener and community shields were known in advance.

  • Gord

    According to the data partners of the bumbling BBC, Chelsea has had slightly more ball possession, and Arsenal are committing more fouls than Chelsea.

    COYG!

  • Al

    Gord
    Perhaps they’re referring to only the fouls that muppet taylor called. About possession they should be watching a different match, certainly not the one I’m watching.

  • para

    Mou is going to analyse how Arsenal play today for the season, but we are not stagnant anymore we are now a dynamic team.

  • Gouresh

    The only criticism I have is that we are making too many miss passes.

  • Gord

    Hm. Get Ramieres off the field before he gets carded.

    COYG!

  • para

    Come on defense, again i tell you, watch out and focus.

  • GoingGoingGooner

    we are looking a bit ragged right now.

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    COYG!!!!!

  • TailGunner

    Chelsea not taking thier chances. It’s a very hot day and we’ve made no subs

  • TailGunner

    Here comes the first. Giroud

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    Come on Ollie give us a goal mate!!

  • TailGunner

    And the first card for Chelsea

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Oh that is rich…the BT commentator said the Coquelin got it for persistent fouling…that wasn’t a foul.

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Oooooo Giroud…..twice.

    Superb save Cech

  • markyb

    Taylor is a disgrace. I was worried before the game that Chelsea would target some of the key players from Mourinho’s perspective. He probably requested Taylor

  • para

    Why does our defense not boot the ball out but out the sides in Chel$ half instead op up the middle. This takes up time for the throw in, and we do not lose it in the middle.

  • TailGunner

    Coquelin has been terrific and didn’t deserve to be booked

  • ARSENAL 13

    More dives forecast for the next 12 mins

  • markyb

    And noddy Taylor will surely oblige

  • TailGunner

    Guess who’s parking the bus?

  • ARSENAL 13

    Come.on gunners

  • Gord

    Burton Cummings? Randy Bachman? 🙂

    COYG!

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    Taylor you wanker

  • ARSENAL 13

    Yeah Arteta into fist fight… Come on

  • ARSENAL 13

    Like the fire

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Good to see our boys ready for a fight!

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    Michael Owen says Anthony Taylor hasn’t made one bad decision all game. One stupid oil lock describing another!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Yyyeeeeaaahhhhh
    Yyyeeeaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Yyyyyeeeeeaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • para

    I never understand the concept of defending like this,(makes me too nervous) if the ball is in the other half, it can’t go in your net. We have to defend the lead up at the halfway line, and close down the opposition. As TailGunner says we’re parking 🙂 but we need to park a little bit higher,

    Well done lads.

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    Bloody auto correct pollock not oil lock

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Take that Mourinho!

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    Yes!!!!!!!!’

  • Al

    Now wait to hear them say Wenger has not beaten maureen in these such and such games…

  • Gooneress No1

    Taylor was Chelsea’s enabler – how corrupt is the game?

    Anyway No more than Arsenal deserved.

  • WalterBroeckx

    Match report is on line from now!!!

  • TailGunner

    No handshake. No changes there then

  • Gord

    I was kind of wondering about your oil lock Andrew.

    I am wondering if TailGunner caught on to my comment. Mind you, it sort of assumes he has listened to rock and roll in the past.

    I suppose Walter has the summary up already. I just checked, not yet.

    COYG!

  • Gooneress No1

    Al – I’ve lost count the amount of times those wimps in the media have said it.

  • Al

    Ok our defence was absolute shite, they only restricted Chelsea to 1 shot on target, and from a freekick too. But yes, we have to find something to criticise our team for.

  • Kenneth Widmerpool

    Wenger out! he hasnt won a trophy for 5mins! Well done the Arsenal! Great to have Cech at the back, magic goal from the OX. Poor old Sweaty one…what will be his bitch off this time?
    COYG!!!!

  • Mandy Dodd

    congratulations boys, another sunny day at Wembley , another pot, and some excellent performances.
    The critics will have their say, Jose didn’t look like he was treating it just as a friendly to me.
    Another comfort zone AAA / media maxim blown away…..Wenger doesn’t do tactics, we cannot defend, we cannot hold a lead, we never beat Jose’s teams etc
    The critic revisionists will tell you that only two trophies count now, despite counting this one when they compare their favourite managers to suggest they are better than Wenger.
    There will be some upset people in the media and our own fanbase but for me, time to head for a glass to raise for another Wenger triumph.

  • markyb

    Yes indeed, Cheers Mandy!

  • The match report is now on

    http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/45299

    and the discussion continues there.

  • Sleekwhale

    It looks like the squad depth paid off today. A classic Arsenal win 🏆 and we have them in our pockets. YagunnersYa