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Arsenal v State Aid United: The history between the clubs, and the Arsenal team for the game.

By Bulldog Drummond

Over recent years Arsenal have not done too badly against the team that used to be called West Ham, but which ultimately took advantage of the government’s misuse of tax payers money to take a stadium for its own, which they had not paid for.

(And just to avoid any misunderstanding on the stadium issue, the Untold view – and yes it is just our view, only a few other organisations go along with this – is that the stadium should never have been built without a clear understanding of what should happen to it after the event, and full legal agreements in place to recover the money tax payers put into the building.  But we are used to being in a minority.)

Here are the recent games between the two teams.   Lines in red are Arsenal victories.

Date Home Team Score Away Team
29.09.2007 West Ham United 0-1 Arsenal
01.01.2008 Arsenal 2-0 West Ham United
26.10.2008 West Ham United 0-2 Arsenal
31.01.2009 Arsenal 0-0 West Ham United
25.10.2009 West Ham United 2-2 Arsenal
20.03.2010 Arsenal 2-0 West Ham United
30.10.2010 Arsenal 1-0 West Ham United
15.01.2011 West Ham United 0-3 Arsenal
06.10.2012 West Ham United 1-3 Arsenal
23.01.2013 Arsenal 5-1 West Ham United
26.12.2013 West Ham United 1-3 Arsenal
15.04.2014 Arsenal 3-1 West Ham United
28.12.2014 West Ham United 1-2 Arsenal
14.03.2015 Arsenal 3-0 West Ham United
09.08.2015 Arsenal 0-2 West Ham United
09.04.2016 West Ham United 3-3 Arsenal
03.12.2016 State Aid United 1-5 Arsenal

So what of the current State Aid team?   Here are their four top goal scorers for league games:

  • Michail Antonio: 9
  • Andy Carroll: 7
  • Manuel Lanzini: 7
  • Andre Ayew: 4

And for Arsenal the top four are

  •  Alexis Sanchez: 18
  • Theo Walcott: 9
  • Olivier Giroud: 8
  • Mesut Ozil 5

 According to one of the bloggettas “Arsenal handed massive double injury boost ahead of key West Ham clash” which means that both Ramsey and the Ox trained yesterday.”  Which may or may not be relevant.

One player who most certainly will be there is Alexis of course, and  www.oulala.com offer conclusive proof that the Difficult One has much more to his game than just goals and assists with “Nine stats that prove Alexis Sanchez is world class”

The subheading is that the “Arsenal forward features in top five in nine key areas this season”

Moving on we have the usual “everyone is leaving” gibber from the media (you may recall that last summer every single player from the Arsenal first team squad was tipped by the all-knowing all-seeing media to be leaving.  Every single one.  And of course it wasn’t really true, as it turned out.  How strange.

But never learning from their errors the Guardian is still at it.  Today it notes that Jack Wilshere “is destined to return from Bournemouth to a place where fans fight among themselves and discord is palpable in the air…. West Ham are ready to bid £30m for the midfielder, scuppering any hopes Eddie Howe had of signing him on a permanent deal so that he can sit on the Vitality Stadium bench and be used as a kind of miniature 20-minute turbo sub at the end of Premier League matches.”

We can check that one again come September 1.  As we can with the issue of whether Chelsea are really in talks with Alexis Sánchez about a move to the little stadium to the west.  If they are, that would of course be utterly illegal (something that the Guardian is clearly unaware of) and so there might be some legal action following.

Here’s a few snippets to be going on with…

  • Arsenal have scored at least 3 goals in 8 of their last 10 matches against West Ham in all competitions.
  • There have been three goals or more in nine of State Aid’s last ten games.
  • State Aid have West Ham have lost their last 4 matches in the Premier League.
  • Arsenal are undefeated in 12 of their last 13 home matches in the Premier League.

Anyway, let’s try and do a team prediction:

Ospina

Bellerin  Mustafi  Gabriel Monreal

Xhaka Coquelin

Walcott Ozil Alexis

Giroud

Which might or might not leave lurking on the beach

Ramsey, The Ox, Iwobi, Martinez, Holding, Elneny, Welbeck

Sadly Walter has to go to a meeting this evening, and the rest of us are at the match, so there won’t be any after match summary today.  Sorry about that.   We’ll be back tomorrow.

 

101 comments to Arsenal v State Aid United: The history between the clubs, and the Arsenal team for the game.

  • Goonermikey

    IMHO the biggest “snippet” will still be how successful Atkinson is in helping the opposition

  • SamuelAkinsolaAdebosin

    In their quest to make a 21 run top 4th table finish this season, Arsenal MUST tonight’s capitalize on the slip-up by Man Utd at home again last night against Everton and beat the West Hammers to go 5th in the table.

    Last Sunday when Utd slip-up at home against WBA, Arsenal failed to capitalize on that slip-up as they themselves slip-up at the Emirates by only managing to play a 2 – 2 draw with Man City.

    It has been purported that the playing of Welbeck centrally and Walcott at the right wing at the same time in Arsenal match can be counterproductive. If true, to be very productive against the Irons then tonight at the Ems, Le Prof should play a different set of Gunners to the ones he played against Man City last Sunday.

    My 4-2-3-1 playing formation of one man’s poison is another man’s food starts & bench in respect of Martinez & Macey are:

    Martinez
    Bellerin Gabriel Mustafi Monreal
    Chamberlain Xhaka
    Walcott Ozil Iwobi.
    Sanchez.
    I this this is a devastating change starting XI that will take the West Hammers to the cleaners.

    My bench:
    Macey Debuchy Mertesacker Gibbs Ramsey Welbeck Giroud.

  • Samuel Akinsola Adebosin

    Below Sanchez, it should read, I believe this…. And not I this this…

  • Ben

    OT but Liverpool! have been banned from signing academy players and fined £100k

  • Gord

    [sarcasm]
    But they are such a nice team. They would never do something like that.
    [/sarcasm]

  • ARSENAL 13

    @Gord,

    Egg jack tea lay…..

  • ARSENAL 13

    Crowd asks Xhaka to shoot…Alexis does….

  • Gord

    Hmmm, game is on, and nobody posted lineup.

    Emi Martinez in goal
    Bellerin, Mustafi, Gabriel, Monreal
    Xhaka, Elneny
    Walcott, Ozil, Sanchez
    Welbeck

    Beach: Gibbs, Mertesacker, Ramsey, Giroud, Ox, Macey(gk)

  • ARSENAL 13

    Noble too quick for Alexis!!!!!….Some real commentary going on there

  • Gord

    Well, we are about 7% into the game, how many mistakes have the officials made so far?

    10?

    Oh, LiveScore says that shot of Alexis was off target.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Slick by Xhaka….

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooo Theo….

  • ARSENAL 13

    Penalty not given….But Hector Yellowed for the same foul….

  • Gord

    Arsenal, that team full of unskilled players that foul more than any team on Earth, get the first yellow. I gather Bellerin just about ripped someone’s head off.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Finally we get a free kick for a foul
    .

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooo….Danny buoy

  • ARSENAL 13

    So Mancity tiny tots and Liverpool trail by a goal
    …..

  • ARSENAL 13

    Noooooooo Theooooooooo….

  • Gord

    Afobe scored for Bournemouth, and Jack started.

    Three State Aid players have needed treatment? From us?

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    We are some thugs playing their beautiful game…..

  • Gord

    Come on Elneny, get that ball on target! Maybe today is your day for a hat trick?

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Some nice cross from Monreal….. Something which Giroud would thrive on…..

  • gouresh

    Can someone tell us the score?

  • ARSENAL 13

    Noooooooooooooooooo…. Ccooommmee ooooooonnnnn

  • ARSENAL 13

    It’s even 0-0

  • ARSENAL 13

    So Fonte can chop anyone there..
    ..

  • Gord

    Oh Gouresh, down in Spain-land, the vampire was out diving again in their 3-0 win. The spud/liverpool!!!/M$ results are still the same.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    No foul on Ozil???…Looks like Mancity have equalized

  • Gord

    Oh 13, LiveScore shows Fonte clearing the ball twice, nothing else. So, the commentators missed whatever you noticed as well.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    So elbow is allowed…And our players can’t talk to the referee

  • tony
    thanks for putting. dan in the sewer where he belongs

  • ARSENAL 13

    Martinez looking good…. Releases the ball quickly….

    Btw… Boooooooos as referees walk out…

  • Gord

    Glad to hear that Martinez is looking good.

    I’m not surprised that the ref has impressed the fans so much. Maybe he’ll slip on a bar of soap at half time?

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Liverpool!!! have a card. Chelsea missed a penalty, and then scored, so M$ down a goal again. And the spuds are cardless.

    COYG!

  • gouresh

    Remember that Andy Carroll has a goal in him. We need to get 2 to stay safe.

  • gouresh

    I am in India for a holiday and the operators have moved EPL to HD channels. Bastards.

  • ARSENAL 13

    So advantage us so far…..lets win the game and hope that more advantage is gained…

    Come on GUNNERS

  • Gord

    LiveScore.com is reasonable commentary, no pictures. Or rather, with me running NoScript, and just letting a single source of javascript work with LiveScore, I see nothing but text.

    People have talked about kodi for finding video streams.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    @gouresh….

    At least they are showing…. Watching​ on hd4. Sometimes….We have 8 channels showing repeat telecasts of cricket…..

  • Vince

    65% possession in the first half, yet only 3 free kicks given to Arsenal compared to West Ham 8. So basically, Atkinson gave a free kick every 21,7% of Arsenal possession, but only every 4,4% of West Ham possession

    To put it differently, Atkinson is 5 times more likely to give a foul when West Ham has the ball than when Arsenal does. YES 5 TIMES!

    Not the first time we see that trend (remember when Pulis West Brom team ended the game with less than 25% possession, but only 5 fouls conceded…), but yet some people choose to ignore the obvious…

  • ARSENAL 13

    Liverpool have equalized

  • Gord

    Checking Google News, I wonder if hell just froze over. The Telegraph mentions that we should have had a penalty (push on Walcott).

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Did liverpool!!! _tap it up_?

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    That penalty Shout should be looked at again…

  • ARSENAL 13

    Referee blocking passing channels…

  • ARSENAL 13

    That was a very good defending from Colin’s

  • ARSENAL 13

    Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock….

  • Gord

    State Aid have had 5 players treated now? What the heck is going on? Physio is wiping dirt smudges off their boots?

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Latest was clash heads….

  • ARSENAL 13

    No foul on Ozil again…

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooo zzzzzzzzzzz iiiiiiiiiiiiiii llllllllllllllllll

  • ARSENAL 13

    Yyyeeeeaaahhhhh come on…

  • Gord

    How to go Ozil! Sounds like a zillion passes.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ohhzziillllll….

    What a pass that was….

  • Gord

    Come on Bournemouth and Southampton!

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooo… Mustafi lucky to be on the pitch….

  • Gord

    On target Danny! Another goal for us please.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Come ooooooonnnnn …. Elneny be calm in front of the goal….Don’t rush…. Doing Everything right ….Just the final bit…

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ttttthhhheeeeeoooooooooooooo….

    Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh…

    Come ooooooonnnnn.

    Superb buildup….

    19th goal of the season for Theo

  • Gord

    How to go Theo. And Mr.Assist is back on the scoresheet too.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooo ooooooo….Ooooooo Hector almost.

  • Gord

    Must be about time for another field treatment for State Aid.

    Come on Bellerin, on target! Another goal please.
    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Are we playing 2-4-4????

  • ARSENAL 13

    100 goals for ARSENAL

  • ARSENAL 13

    Martinez strong there

  • Gord

    Come on Giroud, I know you want a hat trick! You have about 15 minutes.

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Time to start evening out the card tally. Wait until the end of the game to give any to State Aid.

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Where did Xhaka shoot from?

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    From outside the box…

  • ARSENAL 13

    Girouuuuuuu.. Ccooommmee ooooooonnnnn

    Yyyeeeeaaahhhhh

  • Gord

    How to go Giroud! Thank for the assist Ox. Come on, we want another goal!

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Keep going Southampton! Come on Bournmouth, tie that game up.

    COYG!

  • Gord

    I guess Walcott and Giroud are still tied on goals?

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Spuds got 2 late goals, Dele Alli (who should be suspended still) got the first one. Come on Bournemouth!

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    That’s a definite penalty..

  • Gord

    Shutout for Emi! Two shots on net.

    How to go Gunners!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Martinez has been good every time hez been called up…

  • Gord

    Well Arsenal 13, it’s been a slice. Walter is in a meeting, and Tony was probably at the game. And with us winning, no whingers writing in.

  • finsbury

    Well played the Gunners.

    Anybody attempting and failing to defend these officials knows even less then the sweet FA about the football.

  • Gord

    Well, well. Bournemouth tied it up. So we are 6 points behind liverpool!!! with 2 games in hand on them. Annoying that spuds won. Fat Sam lost.

    Not a bad evening of football.

    Well, other than the fact there were magpies out demonstrating how poorly they can do their job.

  • Pat

    In the absence of Tony and Walter, thanks for the commentary from the Untold support team. (Out so I missed the game) Now for Match of the Day.

  • Mandy Dodd

    Well ,that was enjoyable.
    An excellent performance, others may make the headlines, but very impressed with Xhaka and Elneny.
    Ozil back to his creative self, a goal and assist.
    Credit to our keeper as well, hope he enjoyed that.
    You could sense something flowing back into the team, the fans in the stadium certainly picked up on it and backed them all the way.
    Some very positive chanting around the Arsenal fan TV boys at the end, any negativity would have been drowned out by a pretty large, and good natured…..mainly positive crowd.
    Those who wanted to just back the team were out in force this eve.
    As for Atkinson, he should not be allowed to referee Arsenal games, he clearly has a problem with us. A disgrace, but no doubt we will see him again at some vital juncture.

  • Pat

    Just saw the highlights. Blatant penalty on Monreal not given. But the pundits’ debate was about an alleged hand ball from an Arsenal player.

    Pathetically half hearted reaction by the pundits, one of whom was sadly Ian Wright. No mention of Giroud’s cracking goal. Everyone is so disappointed that we are coming back. Come on the Arsenal!

  • Gideone

    At some point, it seemed to me that there was a bounty on Monreal’s legs. The ref could’t be bothered.

  • Eboshie

    Biggest con and selective(blantant) blindnees from the *SO-CALLED* Professional pundits, who sadly were in charge of the BBC Sports highlight tonight…..Doing everything in their “dirty” tricks to tell the www(whole wide world) our first GOAL should not have stood – Well because of handball from Walcott. No mention of the unlawful fouls on Monreal in the WH box. I feel very aggrieved to say the least – definitely, I am not getting value for money in terms of legit TV(Not Kodi) licence.

  • Menace

    Got home late from the Ems & watching MOTD to catch up with what the media saw.

    Atkinson was an absolute cheat from start to finish. He did everything to slope the pitch including positioning himself in the middle of our play. He was blind to 3 clear penalties & to several fouls on Alexis & Ozil. Despite all of his cheating Arsenal rose above the slope & put 3 beautiful goals past State Aid United.

  • Mandy Dodd

    He also tried to stop the teams momentum whenever possible Menace.
    The good thing, the crowd let him have it
    Another accurate ref prediction from Andrew

  • Menace

    There was a ruckus at the away end towards the end of the game. Things were being thrown by the State Aid supporters at the home fans.

  • Brickfields Gunners

    WOO HOO , HOO ! Well done the boys ! And a clean sheet to boot .
    Up the Gunners !

  • Gord

    A couple of people wanted access to the model I wrote, maybe more will in the future? In any event, if you know how to program, we now have a spot for UntoldArsenal.

    http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/60811#comment-913157

    Hopefully Tony will see this note, and he will want to use the sort of LICENSE that Perl projects usually run under. At the moment, the email address attached is one of mine (devoted to that purpose). Tony will be given the password (if he wants it). But, he isn’t a programmer.

  • Menace

    The Carroll fouling was constant & Atkinson turned a blind eye to it. Each time a long ball was played into the Arsenal defence, Carroll ran into the area with a leading elbow & played the Arsenal defender first irrelevant of whether he got the ball or not. Each of those fouls were a bookable but Atkinson enjoyed the probability of an Arsenal injury. The amazing grace of God was that West Ham injured their own on a couple of occasions.

    The MOTD attack on Walcott, claiming a handball was neither certain nor proven. The ball might have got close to him but there was certainly no intent that could be shown. How these same pundits do not show the clear basket ball bounce by Fellaini in the game against Everton speaks volumes on their bias & corrupt presentation of sport.

  • Gord

    I haven’t seen any medja articles which mention any fouling by Carroll, so it isn’t only the PGMO things that were blind to it.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Untold referee previews are so accurate, yet people come on here and ask us not to talk about referees.

    We played well, despite the referee bollocks. And fair play to the crowd who booed the referee off the field at halftime and at full time. They should know we are watching…..

  • WalterBroeckx

    Just seen the highlights on arsenal.com and my boy did Atkinson did as Andrew oh so correctly predicted…..

    Man of the match probably Özil
    Prick of the match: Atkinson

  • para

    Where have all our Sat games gone
    Long time passing…
    Where have all our Sat games gone
    gone far far away…

  • Leon

    ‘I haven’t seen any medja articles which mention any fouling by Carroll, so it isn’t only the PGMO things that were blind to it.’

    Apart from an elbow to Mustafi’s head Carrol had no impact on the match at all. He was awful throughout, and it was good tactics to play Paulista instead of Mertesacker.

  • Norman14

    What an “inept” performance by Martin Atkinson that was. Will he be dragged into the limelight by PGMOL? Probably not. Will he be criticized in the print media? Of course not. Will he be criticized by the “experts” on TV? Most definitely not.

    How strange, then, that PGMOL moved VERY quickly last night to put out the following statement after Keith Stroud made a cock up in the Toon v Burton game:

    “In this evening’s EFL Championship game between Newcastle United and Burton Albion, referee Keith Stroud awarded Newcastle a penalty in the 29th minute. As Matt Ritchie took the kick, Dwight Gayle encroached in the penalty area. An indirect free-kick was awarded to Burton, but the Laws of the Game state that that the penalty kick should have been retaken. Unfortunately the referee has misapplied the Law. Keith and his team are understandably upset at the lapse in concentration and apologise for the mistake.”

    I’ve watched Keith Stroud a lot. He is a very good referee in my opinion. This was a genuine mistake, and he has apologised.

    Unlike Atkinson, who along with his Federation, is at best, inept – at worst, corrupt. We cannot have these double standards administering our game.

    Maybe the FA will address it in their upcoming “reforms.”

  • Jared

    Atkinson was an absolute disgrace to the game during this match. Every time State Aid United had the ball, whistle in mouth, ready to award a free kick for the slightest infraction or nothing at all. On the contrary, when our players were being brought down like big game animals, Atkinson ready to use any excuse to not give a foul, “he got the ball”, “toughen up son”, ‘head shake followed by jog back away from play.’ I don’t know if I’ve ever seen such clear bias during a sporting event. Even Martin Tyler felt the need to justify the bias by stating “oh this is ‘the other side of the coin’ to Monreal ‘s handball in the box against Man City.” The handball that made no contact with Nacho’s arm/hand/body!!! “It all evens out, you see?” I usually enjoy Tyler’s commentary but he might want to review controversial plays to see what the right call was. The whole situation was Man City frustrated with the tie, trying to pressure the officials into giving them a penalty for nothing. And I’ll State this again, you don’t have to watch the referee make individual calls to spot bias, you can see it clearly in his/their body language! That’s how we know this comes from the top down! And I have to think this has something to do with the 2003/2004 undefeated season. Foreign manager and his team of midgets embarrasses proud Englishmen at their own game.

  • goonersince72

    Jared – I agree with every word

  • bjtgooner

    Sorry to comment late on the match – travelling.

    It was overall a fine performance from our guys, we regained our fluid movement, moved the ball quickly and accurately – far too quickly for the hammer thugs who tried to close us down with an intimidating tackle/foul – only to find the ball was no longer with the player they were trying to intimidate.

    We could have and probably should have scored more goals, but it was a very satisfactory win with some very pleasing football by our team.

    The incompetent in black was even more pathetic than his average poor performance – like dancing Dean and a few others he is well past his sell by date.

    I no longer watch MOTD or listen to the Sky biased pundits or read the press sports columns, so I can’t really comment on these outlets – but I am not surprised at the rubbish that is still reported to emmanate from them.

  • Menace

    Jared your right in almost every aspect but the final 2003/2004 season because they were slanting pitches before that. Wiley, Riley & Bennett were always cheating Arsenal of fair officiating.

    I have shown gooners at matches how bad these cheats are. If you can predict the action of an official prior to an incident then it is almost certain that something is fixed.

    The PGMOL are responsible for robbing the public of fair sporting entertainment to the tune of millions. Worse scandal than PPI.