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Arsenal v Manchester City. Tottenham were valiant; Man City’s time will come; “we know that”.

By Bulldog Drummond

We are so used to being told that the FA Cup is not a trophy and that the only trophies that are real trophies are the trophies Arsenal fail to win, that it is curious to read the article on the Telegraph web site headlined, “For Tottenham yet again it is the hope that kills them”.

Interesting because here once again we are reminded (this time by the always droll Jonathan Liew) that “This is what being a Tottenham fan for the last quarter of a century must feel like….

“Hope is turning up at Wembley for an FA Cup semi-final full of optimism, even though the man who scored the last time you won one is now 56 years old, greying and presenting the BBC’s television coverage. Hope is ripping off the plaster and daring yourself not to see the scar underneath….”

The talk here is of, “The road to Tottenham’s first major trophy since 1991…” and it is quite a jolt to remember that even though the aaa don’t consider the FA Cup a trophy, it is the last major (or minor, depending on your point of view) trophy the Tinies won.   Indeed there are still some who speak of their “League Cup triumphs in 1999 and 2008, yet this, in its own way, is somehow indicative. Big clubs do not remember their League Cup victories.”

Thus for many who presumably will not only not be at Wembley today but also won’t even bother to turn on the TV, the FA Cup is an irrelevance.  It’s not for me, but then I’ve had the pleasure of being at Wembley four times in the last three years, seeing Arsenal win each time.   But I was also naive on that first occasion, for when we lifted the trophy after beating Hull I do remember thinking “that boring ‘last time we won a trophy’ stuff would now stop.”  It didn’t.  The FA Cup was instantly declassified.

In the final chitchat building up to our game today Mr Wenger is reported to have been talking about Alex Oxlade‑Chamberlain who he wants to stay at Arsenal for 10 years.  And given the range of positions on the pitch the Ox has willingly taken up of late it is not hard to see why.  He seems very close to having it all.

This could of course be a moment of celebration – a talent about to emerge.  But no, it is an opportunity to knock the demise of the “British core”.   But even the Guardian admits “Oxlade-Chamberlain appears to be… one of Arsenal’s most positive performers in what has been a beleaguered couple of months.”

Of him Mr Wenger said, “He looks like he is on an upward curve.   He has had little problems, but now he’s getting a little stability and more freedom to play. Before he played a bit inhibited and now he plays with the feeling ‘I’m a player’ and you feel that when he takes the ball. Chamberlain is a player who questions himself a lot. He always wondered: ‘Will I be as good as people want me to be?’ So he has matured – because he is an intelligent boy and gets to the level now where his mental level has adjusted with his football level.”

Alongside the Ox, Ramsey is seen by Mr Wenger as vital to the club’s future.  In a statement that made it sound as if Mr Wenger is about to leave he said,  “These guys have to take charge of what we have built and the values of the club.   They should lead and take responsibility to say: ‘Yes, that is how we want to behave, this is how we want to play, let’s go together.’ If they didn’t want to, that would be a huge disappointment. A lot is said about my future but what is more important is the value and spirit of what we have built in 20 years than my own person.

“For Aaron it is a very frustrating season. I looked the other day, he started his eighth game in the Premier League. When I realised that it was unbelievable. Injuries, injuries, injuries, injuries and not big ones. But every time niggling and when he came back – boom – a little calf – boom – a little hamstring.

“I hope he will have a strong end to the season because he is an important player for me. When you look at the start of the season, you count Cazorla, you count Ramsey to be important players. You come to the end of the season – no Cazorla since October and Ramsey has played less than 10 games.”

Meanwhile all the predictions are for a Man City win, although that was also the consensus before the last time the clubs met at Wembley.  To the total astonishment of the media, who had to go scrabbling for excuses about Man City not being ready for the match, Arsenal won 3-0, in the 2014 Community Shield.

In the FA Cup this is the first game between the two since 1971, when we went on to win the first of our three Doubles.

The last defeat we have had in 21 FA Cup games was of course not against one of the major players but instead against Watford, a match that ended the dream of three successive FA Cup victories.   And if we could keep City out today that would equal the Arsenal record of four consecutive FA games without an opposition goal.  That was achieved last in 2005.

And here’s a goodie.  The BBC website has just come up with “The Gunners have reached the FA Cup semi-finals for the 29th time, a competition record.   They have also won the trophy 12 times, a joint-record alongside Manchester United.”  Glad they noticed.  Maybe they were reading us yesterday.

One other good one they have found is that Alexis Sanchez has scored five times in his four appearances at Wembley: three goals for Arsenal, and two for Chile against England.

Final point before the teams: here are the top goal scorers in the league along with assist levels, included just in case the Guardian does another one of its “Arsenal have only two players who have scored in double figures.   It is indeed still two this season – although with a few league games to go Giroud might get one more to make it three.

As you can see, at the moment, Liverpool have two, Tottenham have two, and well that’s about it.  Be careful Guardian writers – we’re watching!

Player Team Goals Assists Total
Lukaku Everton 24 6 30
Kane Tottenham 20 5 25
Alexis Arsenal 19 9 28
Ibrahimovic Manchester United 17 5 22
Costa Chelsea 17 5 22
Agüero Manchester  City 17 0 17
Alli Tottenham 16 5 21
Hazard Chelsea 14 5 19
King Bournemouth 14 2 16
Defoe Sunderland 14 2 16
Mané Liverpool 13 5 18
Heung-min Tottenham 12 4 16
Benteke Crystal Palace 12 2 14
Llorente Swansea 12 0 12
Firmino Liverpool 11 6 17
Vardy Leicester 11 4 15
Deeny Watford 10 4 14
Walcott Arsenal 10 2 12
Colutinho Liverpool 9 6 15
Giroud Arsenal 9 3 12

And so, as I prepare to get into the car and drive to a convenient underground station… here is a possible line up.

Cech

Gabriel Koscileny Holding

The Ox                                    Monreal

Ramsey             Xhaka

Alexis       Ozil

Giroud

This would leave, on the beach by the Grand Union Canal

Martínez, Bellerín, Elneny, Mertesacker, Coquelin, Walcott, Iwobi.

The FA Cup semi-final

187 comments to Arsenal v Manchester City. Tottenham were valiant; Man City’s time will come; “we know that”.

  • Jimbo

    I new the tiny totts were going to choke,Adrian Durham said “spurs will only lose if they suddenly remember they’re spurs”and it looks like they did..

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    Safe journey Tony and enjoy the game. I have a granddaughters 12th birthday party to go to, I’m sure that she will understand my attention wandering from kick-off onwards as she is a supporter as well.

    COYG

  • para

    Have a feeling we won’t play 3 at the back today. It will be a tough game this time as Manc(Pep) will want to win something this season.
    Have we ever played 4-1-4-1? This combination seems to cause us problems every time, maybe we should try it sometime.

    //
    Anyway a little dig at the “positives” 🙂
    Dr Who S10 E2

  • Mandy Dodd

    Nobody gives the team a prayer in this game.
    Good, that may suit them

  • Polo

    Could those attending the game, please tell those paddy power folks it’s disgusting to do a poll by holding up a Wenger in and a Wenger out banner where patrons walk through. How low could a company go?

  • S-P

    Let’s ignore the fact that Moses dived for the penalty or that the ref, typically refused to book Chelsea players (both Alonso and Kante could have been booked three times over before they eventually where).

    Let’s just concentrate on the fact that I began reading an article thinking it was going to be even handed and almost immediately we get the ‘tinies’ BS. Well done, you won some trophies while we were recovering from Mr Scholar nearly destroying our club. When that happened we were on a par with you (and United!) in terms of trophies won.

    But since you want to compare magnitude of trophies won, by denigrating the CC (something, you’ll notice, Mourinho doesn’t do), let’s cut to the chase. Many folk consider the real measure of a BIG CLUB to be European success. Spurs have won three major recognised by UEFA European trophies. How many major recognised by UEFA European trophies have the Goons won? I’ll give you a clue, it’s less than two! LOL.

    Are you resorting to this because we will finish comfortably above you this season? Even reinventing its meaning (and thinking no one would notice) won’t save your pathetic At Totteringham’s Day now!

  • ARSENAL 13

    2 hrs to go….Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock

    Ccccooommmmeee ooooooonnnnn uuuuuuuuuu ggggguuuunnnnneeeeerrrrrrssss

    Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • ARSENAL 13

    Eeefffffffff paddy power…

    Ccccooommmmeee ooooooonnnnn uuuuuuuuuu ggggguuuunnnnneeeeerrrrrrssss

    Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • finsbury

    Thanks, good luck at the match COYG!

    It is most revealing that some uber-blaggers and selfless yet gallant podcastateers started off the season by constantly slagging off Chamberlain, one of the best young English footballers. This was a constant barrage against they young gunner, week to week.

    Conclusion:

    A) they know even less then the sweet FA when it comes to the football.

    B) they know more about football agents (same agent as Sterling yikes!) then they do about the football 😉

  • Zuruvi

    Interviewer: “Yaya Sanogo what have you won?”

    Sanogo: ”Yes boss, I win 2 FA Cup and 2 Shield at Wembley.
    Sorry my English not good. English not my language boss” ………….

    Interviewer: “Kane and Alli everyone’s talking about the two of you, what have you won?”

    Harry Kane: ”errrr…. well err… ummm.. POY errr league top scorer errr, League Cup losers medal, err…. might finish above Arsenal.. err bright future err.”….

    Interviewer: ”Alli do you have anything to add?”
    ………….SILENCE……………..

    ”And that’s a wrap up folks. That was Yaya Sanogo, Harry Kane and Delli Ali.
    Thank you for your time.” ….

    And moments later (when OFF-AIR) …
    Yaya Sanogo: Kane, Alli, you no speak English?…”
    😉 🤔😏

  • nicky

    Looking at this season’s FA Cup semi-finalists,
    it’s a sad reflection of today’s football that the “sugar daddy” (who freely injects personal finance into the Club he owns) has so far prospered.
    I trust Arsenal will break that mould after meeting Man Citeh. 😉

  • Josif

    It will be a big game today. Our boys should men up and make a redemption by beating City. We can do it if we put our best TEAM performance. Today’s game is the beginning of a difficult sequence that should serve as a major indicator who wants to play for Arsenal and Arsene next season and who should GTFO with a boot in the arse.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Yeah boot up their arse….

    Ccooommmee ooooooonnnnn uuuuuuuuuu ggggguuuunnnnneeeeerrrrrrssss

    Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • Gord

    Where does a person find commentary? Arsenal.com probably has something, but I have yet to find a FA Cup game where LiveScore had anything useful. What is the international version of the NY Times? Maybe it could start doing neutral commentaries on games?

    COYG!

  • MickHazel

    I only bet on certainties so I am going to lay money on Man City being allowed at least one offside goal against us today.

  • SamuelAkinsolaAdebosin

    Will Le Prof starts a back three backline playing formation against Man City at Wembley this afternoon or not? For a back three backline formation that worked for Arsenal at the Riverside Stadium against Middlesborough save for some clumsiness in defending by Monreal and Koscielny which allowed Boro to equalised the 1st Arsenal goal in the game, i see no reason why Le Prof should jettison this 3 backline but enhance it by playing Chamberlain at the left side of the Arsenal 5 in the middle midfield formation. The Ox will track back to be helping out Holding when necessary. Coquelin and Xhaka whom I expect Le Prof to start at the middle of Arsenal base will be shielding Koscielny who will start as Mustafi is unavailable. And of course I expect Walcott at the right side and the deep lying Ramsey to offer defensive cover for Paulista.

    Arsenal 3-4-2-1 starts and bench for Man City just made available on Arsenal twitter account are:

    Cech
    Gabriel Koscielny Holding
    Ox Ramsey Xhaka Monreal
    Ozil Alexis
    Giroud.

    Bench:
    Martinez Bellerin Gibbs Coquelin Walcott Iwobi Welbeck.

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    Gord,

    Arsenal.com will have a live sound commentary. In U.K. The match is on BT Sport but that isn’t available overseas

  • Gord

    Thanks Andrew.

    Arsenal.com not yet into gameday mode.

    Come on Burnley!

    COYG!

  • para

    So its on.
    Arsenal player sound and some stream. cricfree.sc

  • ARSENAL 13

    3 at the back

  • ARSENAL 13

    So otemendi kicks at Ozil for no reason..

  • Menace

    Good afternoon all you Gooners.
    The Wembley pitch is being slanted already with The PGMOL picking on Giroud for being stronger than the City defenders.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Fernandinho barges at Monreal after the whistle..

  • Menace

    advantage when pulled back is an amazing slant!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Pep playing leave something on them football….

  • Menace

    Offsides are going to be selectively not seen.

  • para

    There is no one to get the drop downs from Giroud.

  • markyb

    Cos Pep has watched the way it is and knows he can. Simples

  • Menace

    Silva goes down like a chicken & Pep wants a card. What is the 4th official doing? Pep should be sent to the stand.

  • Menace

    So a small city player going down draws a foul but a bully boy City player fouling Ozil is ok!!

  • Menace

    City diving for the cameras!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Robson for commentary

  • Gord

    No Robson, I’ve got Arsenal 13 and Menace for commentary.

    The FA has a live game page. The only thing there is live stats (from Opta).

    Come on Burnley. It’s a home game, at least get a tie.

    COYG!

  • markyb

    Taylor is the Ref in the Mancs game, what are the odds?

  • para

    20 mins gone already? Nutting naw happen yet.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Come ooooooonnnnn Oohhzil

    Ooooooo

  • ARSENAL 13

    Sterling for Silva….More dives now….

  • Menace

    Foul on Ozil must have been a card but nothing given apart from a free kick.

  • para

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Bummer i typed this before the goal, offside. Argh

  • Menace

    Card for Alexis for a tackle that was for the ball. What a cheating money grabbing bastard the official.

  • para

    That was not a yellow?

  • ARSENAL 13

    Aguero dive…
    Aguero dive

  • Menace

    Cheating tactic by Aguero kick the back of your own leg & go down!!!

  • para

    Ox did not tackle him

  • markyb

    Agenda for sure

  • nicky

    Menace and Arsenal 13 .You really are the most braindead posters on here with no idea about football..

  • Menace

    Pundits all sniggering when Webb doesn’t feed them sugar. Poor little idiots.

  • Menace

    nicky – you are obviously so fucking alive that you have not seen a thing.

  • para

    Are they all play acting? Or is Arsenal to tough for them. 🙂

  • Gord

    Opta is missing a statistic, referee accuracy.

    Come on Burnley. It’s a home game, at least get a tie.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Pep…some taste of your own medicine….???

    Though it was accidental

  • markyb

    Aguero is a cheating little bastard, seems to be a get them down to ten men please ref type thing going on

  • nicky

    Menace
    Just like tony and walter dont see a thing with your idiotic,racist,and homophobic comments.Your spending too much time drinking cheap ale in that cess pit where you live.

  • Gord

    Arsenal.com have 6 comments so far in the first half. About 1 every 5 minutes. Must be a really boring game for whoever is doing the commentary there.

    Come on Burnley. It’s a home game, at least get a tie.

    COYG!

  • Menace

    The sly kicking is not being picked up by the ref. Good thing & all because Kos kneed the Kun in the back.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Finally… Giroud gets a call…

  • markyb

    Macmanaman is a Cunt, absolute wanker of the first order

  • para

    Whew. Switching off too early, lucky flag. Come on lads.

  • nicky

    We got away with one there .The refs are definitely biassed!!

  • Menace

    Kompany getting away with consistent fouls on Giroud. But one gets given.

  • ARSENAL 13

    So otemendi doesn’t get a card despite manhandling players…

  • ARSENAL 13

    That was lucky indeed…

  • para

    Pressure pressure lads come on, pressure them.

  • Al

    This is joke officiating going on here, kompany getting away with everything. Yet when our players just nudge any city player free kick against ud. Type 3 match fixing going on here. Sanchez just wrestled to the ground, nothing given. Absolutely disgusting officiating

  • para

    We will play 4 at the back second half starts or there after me thinks.

    Lost a pen.

  • Menace

    Quality call by the assistant who saw the ball curling out of play.

    The other assistant didn’t see the foul on Alexis that was a certain penalty.

  • nicky

    That disgusting officiating is keeping it at 0-0 Al.

  • Menace

    nicky – your home is where I live so you must be the stink I’m getting.

  • Leon

    We’ll have to change our defensive shape back to the old one to boost the midfield if we’re going to get anything out of this. Must have been 60 per cent in our half. Two wrong game changing errors by the ref, so one all on that front

  • nicky

    That dodgy stream must be in good quality menace because BT Hd showed that all of the ball didnt cross the line.Nothing wrong with your selective vision as usual there!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Some English goal keeper…James thinks….Video referee is not necessary….

  • Jammy J

    What a shyte first-half by Arsenal. Although, we literally can’t seem to tackle without giving a foul away, but then on the other hand, City did have a perfectly good goal disallowed, but then yet again, we can’t aren’t given a fairly clear penalty. Brilliant officiating as always then, by the PIGMOB!

    Still, Arsenal are playing pretty terrible. Very disheartening to watch, after seeing how Chelsea and Spurs played yesterday (minus that “dark arts” shyte).

  • ARSENAL 13

    James thinks… Alexis penalty claim is not a foul at all
    ..

  • nicky

    I dont live near you menace as our village already has an idiot and hes not an Arsenal fan..

  • Menace

    markb, Al we seem to be watching a different game to nicky. This nicky anyway. I’m sure he’s not the one with family working at the ems.

  • para

    All, be happy we are not 1 down and thank the ref.

  • Polo

    Don’t like the way we are playing, it’s not Arsenal, let go for it with no fear, win draw or lose, let play Wengerball. Come on Arsenal.

  • Jammy J

    Menace – So when a very, very questionable and ambiguous decision goes Arsenals way, the officials are without a doubt spot-on? Right.. It’s those kinda comments that take away any interrogatory from the numerous times that Arsenal do get robbed by the officials.

  • Seydlitz

    I have watching Arsenal for over sixty years and never seen so bias a ref peformence we are not going win this game it has .been ordained as a Chelsea Man City final.

  • Menace

    Credit to Webb with his comments on penalty decisions. Kuns kick on his own heel brought him down. Navas pulled & then pushed Alexis & that was a penalty.

    Not happy with the advantage not given to Arsenal & the constant fouling by Kompany on Giroud including in our box.

  • para

    Arsenal will change formation, if not at once, then at 60-70 mins

  • Menace

    Jammy J – I am an Arsenal supporter not a referee. So take it the way I see it. If I were the referee I would have sent off Aguero for being ugly & Kompany for being a bully.

  • Menace

    Kompany hurt himself trying to foul Giroud!!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Powerful Ox run…. Ccooommmee ooooooonnnnn

  • ARSENAL 13

    @menace….Karma for kompany

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooo Xhaka laka Xhaka

  • Gord

    A Google News snippet from The Sun:

    > [Twit] Ref Craig Pawson is totally and utterly out of his depth. Total disgrace that he has been given an FA cup semi. [/Twit]

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL

  • Leon

    Bravo being Bravo. We’ve got him with the sun in his eyes too. Should throw a few high balls at him

  • Menace

    Macmanaman is a dickhead. A clear kick on Alexis seen by the assistant.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Noooooooooooooooooo..

    Cooooommmmeeeee ooooooonnnnn ARSENAL

  • Menace

    Good goal by the ugly boy!

  • para

    Change it now, change it now.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL
    Come on ARSENAL

  • Menace

    What a beauty Nachoooooooooo Monrael

  • ARSENAL 13

    Yyyyyueeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

    Ccccooommmmeee ooooooonnnnn uuuuuuuuuu ggggguuuunnnnneeeeerrrrrrssss

    Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • para

    Goalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

  • para

    you beat me Menace 🙂

  • para

    Close down

  • Menace

    I beat nicky too – don’t know f all about this game me. I was born with a kick that is still special & bare foot.

  • para

    Come on lads, concentrate and dont lose it now, close down.

    What was that???????????????

  • para

    Ozil i expected better then.

  • Leon

    chances coming to both sides now

  • Gord

    How to go Nacho! Good work Ox.

    Let’s get another one now, or two.

    Come on CPalace, beat the pool!!!

    COYG!

  • para

    Why dont Ozil shoot to ras

  • para

    Close down people

  • Menace

    Another pathetic kick with the inside of the boot when the outside would have the ball in the net. Wenger you have enough coaches but they have not taught your players technique to kick the ball!!!!

  • para

    Alexis needs to stop it 🙂

  • para

    Keep them out for now plz

  • ARSENAL 13

    Extra time….

  • ego

    now that’s more like it guys. Now stick it to them. COYG

  • para

    So any bets on winner?

  • Leon

    Probably us to win on penalties

  • para

    Stop waiting on the ref, we could have been upfield already.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Ccccooommmmeee ooooooonnnnn

  • Gord

    Was that about the header by Holding, 13?

    Come on CPalace, beat the pool!!!

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Oh, commentating caught up. How to go Alexis!

    Come on CPalace, beat the pool!!!

    COYG!

  • para

    Gord
    No point, we wont catch them(pool).

  • para

    If we go too defensive we will draw and pens.

  • Leon

    Pawson seems to be favouring us at the moment

  • Menace

    Did I miss something?

  • Gord

    We have 3 games in hand on pool!!!, and are 10 points behind them.

    Come on CPalace, beat the pool!!! CPalace tied it up.

    COYG!

  • Menace

    OMG we do have some smart arse ‘n al supporters – thinking PGMOL change their spots.

    The ref will only do what he knows will not get picked on.

  • para

    I wish we had 4 wellbecks to close down people.

  • para

    Fumble fumble arghhhhh

  • Matthew

    A few months ago Sanchez was a “flawed” character who should be kicked out of the club. Now he’s a hero. Who’d have thunk it?

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ccccooommmmeee ooooooonnnnn

  • Gord

    Odd, TheFA and Arsenal.com at about 110 minutes, WorldFootball says Bellering comes on for Ox at 115 minutes.

    Come on CPalace, beat the pool!!!

    COYG!

  • Menace

    There are some fouls not being called ……

  • Menace

    and some being called against us….

  • Menace

    Pseudo fouls are now the PGMOL tactic. Who says officials cannot slant the pitch

  • Menace

    Macca still trying to score for City!!

  • para

    Ozil looks so feeble at times!

  • para

    Again, we could have scored.

  • Leon

    I think he’s knackered para

  • ARSENAL 13

    Hez Arsene Wengers man better than zidane…..

    Come ooooooonnnnn ARSENAL

  • para

    Have they both decided to play for penalty shoot out?

    Ozil off, good, probably tired though.

  • Leon

    & off he goes

  • Leon

    Only one minute added time.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Wembeerrrrlllliiieeeeeee

    The most successful club in.the FA cup ever

  • para

    Wembley here we come, oh we are here already! 🙂

  • Menace

    who is nicky & his football knowledge. Arsenal are going to win the FA cup & I will be there.

  • para

    We have to produce a masterclass for the fans in Final.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Massive game by the boys…

    We care playing the final again

    Woohoo
    The final again.

    Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • Menace

    The FA cup is not a trophy anymore!! It’s the new Arsenal anthem. It’s a stroll in the park – Wembley Park

  • Leon

    Great!Great!Great!
    Definitely the better side in the second half, by pushing up instead of sitting back.

  • hilbert

    yeaaaahhhhh!!! Finalists!!!! Now lets go for this top four, it’s possible. permitting a few screw ups

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ox definitely man of the match….

  • Al

    Fabulous!! Well done lads!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    So there was a.plan….

    Played within ourselves.
    And upped it in the second.
    And physically better at extra time…..

    The manager who doesn’t do tactics…..Does it again….

  • Polo

    Wembley, Wembley, we still going to Wembley!!!! Congratulations to the team. One more hurdle to go. Come on Arsenal.

  • Al_The_Gunner

    Holding is a man of a match
    nobody pays attention to what a young defenders do if they did’t score
    but holding was brilliant

  • finsbury

    Great game of football.
    A much closer contest then yesterday 😉

  • Vince

    Who wants to bet that Atkinson will be named for the final?

  • finsbury

    Coyg

  • goonersince72

    quality performance

  • MickHazel

    Gabriel was a beast in defence as well.

  • Jimbo

    WE’RE THE BEST EVER

  • Chris

    Well AW did not forget my birthday…Great !

    Interesting to see what appears on the web now…. bet by tonight there’ll be hundreds of stories of the ‘wrong’ decisions agaisnt City.
    Can’t remember same thiong when it goes against Arsenal…

    But hell, we’re in the final.
    The guys held tough, I felt they had a fighting spirit I had not seen lately
    Not often did I see a ‘red wall’ in our box and tonight we did see this quite a few times.
    And the organisation on the field reminds me of a Belgium-Argentina 1982.

    let’s hope they’ll recover and catchup in the PL can be done

  • Josif

    WOOOOOOOOOW!

    Top performance from the boys. They did what was asked from them and got us a big showdown with Chavs. Fantastic performance from the team. Yes, it was a major team effort.

    Gabby and Rob were perfect. Wow. Mustafi will have to work double shift to return to the starting line-up. Ox was literally at every blade of grass.

    COYG!

  • Nitram

    Great win.

    Could of gone either way to be honest, on chances at least.

    But that was a much much better performance.

    Personally I thought the ref had a good game. He made mistakes for sure but I thought both penalty shouts would of been harsh.

    Their disallowed goal should of stood as the ball never went out but it was milometers so it’s hard to be too harsh on the assistant. I know that’s easy to say when it goes your way but I mean it, and I would of said the same had it been the other way round.

    I can take close decisions going either way. Even the odd poor ones. What I cant take is when it’s deliberate pitch tilting.

    Today, despite some errors, I thought the ref tried to handle the game with impartiality, and that’s all I want.

    COYG and bring on Chelsea.

  • Alex

    Ox=58% pass accuracy. Yes, he was good…

  • nicky

    @Menace,
    No, this guy is using the same name but it’s not me. I bet he hasn’t even got a Gran!

  • Jammy J

    YES!! Brilliant win! Played terrible in the first half (like we usually do, for some reason), but really stepped it up for the rest of the game. Very, very impressed by Gabriel. He was always fairly sturdy, but very rough around the edges, so hopefully he will continue getting better and better, to cement himself as a starter.

    Also, I really hate to say it, but I think this game really showed that Welbeck isn’t good enough to be one of our main strikers.

  • Gord

    I think Walter must be speechless.

    There are articles in the news already, showing how Pawson took the game away from City. Mostly that goal that was called back.

  • Gord

    [sarcasm] It’s always a good time to step on our own players. [/sarcasm]

    Benteke scores again, as CPalace lead pool!!! with 15 minutes left.

    Come on Palace!

  • Jammy J

    @ Alex – You’re completely right; everyone else is completely wrong – the Ox had a terrible game and only someone as brilliantly perceptive as you, could possibly pick that out.

  • Leon

    Don’t see how Pawson should be blamed over the City “goal” ruled out. It was the assistants call, although I agree that the ref is the final arbiter, so will always take the can in these sort of situations.

  • Alex

    Jammy, these are stats, useless to be aggressive, mate…

  • Nitram

    Jammy J/Alex

    58% pass accuracy isn’t great, but that’s not the part of his performance that impressed.

    What impressed, and maybe was behind why some made him MOTM was the fact that he was the guy that forced the pace. He made things happen and he was key to us equalising.

    Sometimes when you’re trying to force the pace, to make the ‘killer pass’ you do end up giving the ball away more than you’d like, but without his dynamic performance the result could of been different.

    Personally, given his age and even more his experience, I would of given MOTM to Holding.

  • Jammy J

    @ Nitram – Sorry, I thought it was quite clear that my comment was sarcastic haha. I thought the OX had an extremely good game.

  • Gord

    Well, that helps. CPalace with the away win.

  • Usama Zaka

    late to the party…

    YAAAAAAAASSSS LETS GOOoooooo GUnnNNnnnEErrRsssssss !!!

  • Brickfields Gunners

    WOO HOO, HOO! Wembley here we come .
    Well played the boys .

  • WalterBroeckx

    match report is on line. sorry total confusion from my part

  • Zedsaunt

    What a great performance!! Stand on your chair and holler!!! Proportion, perspective, and sheer bloody-mindedness!!!

  • Sammy The Snake

    Great win, and FA Cup is certainly a real trophy!

  • Brickfields Gunners

    Wife : I have heard that a man gets deaf if he has Viagra often.

    Husband : Who the hell is Jeff and why is he going to Niagara often ? .

  • Gord

    Scottish Daily Record claims that John Cross learned 5 things today.

    In the 5 things, we see that John Cross learned that City was hard done by the ref, that the ref was no good, and that Arsenal has a lot of goons.

    New Zealand Herald noticed there was a game, but I see little of note in their writeup.

    News18 thinks Arsenal was lucky.

    SBS noticed the game. Nothing noteworthy in writeup.

    The Independent claims they learned something. Why bother reading it?

    Straits Times had a story, large parts of which seem the same as other stories.

  • Nitram

    JJammy J

    Yes I know it was, and I agree with you. I think you’ve misunderstood my post.

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Our 2nd half was nice to watch. We pushed the ball up and there was a mix between passing short and long balls. The club didn’t let the Aguero goal get us down.

    As for whether that ManCity cross was over the line…it seemed to go over the line in the air not on the ground. It had a wicked spin.

    It seems on balance…we are not as bad as we feared but not quite as good as we hoped.
    Of course, to the NEGATIVE NELLIES… we are not not as good as they feared but not quite as bad as they hoped.

  • S-P; I think that the problem is that you have come to this site without seeking to understand the context of what Untold is and what we have been doing for 9 years. If you did some background work it would help. After all wouldn’t you do this before writing to the Guardian, The Morning Star, The Dail Mail etc. Why not with Untold?

  • Menace

    nicky – I figured it was not you. He doesn’t have the class.

    What a great result. Our boys played well. Gabriel was special. Kos was magnificent. The Ox was tireless. Ozil was always there but struggled for stamina. The whole team had focus.

  • Jared

    Ozil had a good game and really put a shift in. I thought the whole team played well, with confidence. Holding and Gabriel were excellent, Ramsey and Xhaka not perfect but good. Cech getting blamed for 1st goal, he should have just come out aggressively for the ball yes, but what you can’t see on television is that Aguero is giving him a choice, come out hard and I’ll flip it over you far post, wait and I’ll smash it low near post. I think Cech knew he was going with the flip far post but got caught between two minds. Maybe he was partly to blame but it’s basically a 1 on 1 that should never happen to a goalkeeper. Ox was really something today, MOTM. He’s really growing up in front of us, a joy to watch. No one on the field, or maybe any field, can touch his blend of pace and power and pure athleticism. A true sight to see. And with his comments recently about the team and the fans, he’s really becoming a leader on and off the pitch. In a team that desperate for leaders on the field, that’s really valuable.

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