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Arsenal v Spurs Sunday 6 November 2016
by Andrew Crawshaw
Before I look ahead to our game, Bournemouth will be enjoying the pleasures of Mike Dean for a third time this season in their game against Sunderland on Saturday.
What’s more Liverpool have Michael Oliver for a third time in their game against Watford.
This is only matchweek 11 for heaven’s sake and to have the same referee every four weeks is just plain wrong.
OK rant over.
Our Match Officials for the Derby on Sunday are :-
- Referee – Mark Clattenburg – 41 years old from Durham and FIFA accredited
- Assistant 1 – Jake Collin – from Mersyside and FIFA accredited
- Assistant 2 – Simon Bennett – from Staffordshire and FIFA accredited
- Fourth Official – Andre Marriner – from the West Midlands and FIFA accredited
If the appointments have a familiar ring about them it’s because we had exactly the same crew for our second match of the season away to Leicester which resulted in a 0 – 0 draw.
In that game the officials didn’t exactly cover themselves in glory almost certainly costing us two points.
How has Mr Clattenburg done in his matches so far this season? Taking the data from our Matchweek 8 roundup we have the following league table :-
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Matchweek 8 | Season to date | |||||||||||
Referee | 2nd Yell | Red | Pen | Goal | Tot | Games | 2nd Yell | Red | Pen | Goal | Tot | Avg |
Roger East | 2 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 1 | 12 | 3.00 |
Robert Madley | 5 | 2 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 13 | 2.60 | |||||
Mike Dean | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 18 | 2.57 |
Jon Moss | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 15 | 2.14 |
Graham Scott | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 2.00 | |||||
Kevin Friend | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 8 | 2.00 |
Mark Clattenburg | 4 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 8 | 2.00 | |||||
Anthony Taylor | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 2 | 14 | 1.75 |
Michael Oliver | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 12 | 1.71 |
Craig Pawson | 5 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 1.60 | |||||
Andre Marriner | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 1.33 |
Lee Mason | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 1.25 |
Neil Swarbrick | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 1.25 | |||||
Martin Atkinson | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 7 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 7 | 1.00 |
Stuart Attwell | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1.00 | |||||
Mike Jones | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0.50 |
Paul Tierney | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
In the first 8 weeks of the season, Mr Clattenburg held the whistle on four occasions and averaged two wrong Important Decisions per game. Against that we have also credited him with getting 12 penalty decisions right so his positive decisions outnumber his wrong ones.
The next question to ask is has his performances in Arsenal games this season matched those against other clubs? To answer that I will look in far more detail in his only previous Arsenal game this season.
Ref Review : Leicester – Arsenal |
58.9% overall weighted score, bias against the two teams 3/97 and 3 wrong Important Decisions (Second Yellow Cards, Red Cards, Penalties and Goals).
- Min 21 Vardy should have had a second yellow card for a scissor kick on Monreal (he should have had a first in Min 18 for a high foot on Monreal);
- Min 31 Arsenal should have had a penalty for Morgan holding Koscielny and
- Min 42 Arsenal should have had a second penalty for Huth holding Holding. So thw points denied to Arsenal and I can only conclude that with a weighted score of below 60% and a bias against Arsenal of nearly 100% he was definitely worse for us than other teams.
In addition to the poor decisions from the referee Mr Bennett got in on the act by failing to flag Walcott offside in Min 22 – this was the only incorrect decision in the entire game that went in Arsenal’s favour.
Last season 2015-16 we had the pleasure of Mr Clattenberg on four occasions
21 November WBA v Arsenal (2-1)
42% overall weighted performance, bias against the two teams 9/91 and 5 wrong Important Decisions.
- Min 34 Arteta was penalised for a ‘Phantom Foul” from which West Brom scored (no foul so no free kick so no goal);
- Min 46 Olsson wrestled Giroud to the ground in the penalty area should have resulted in a penalty for Arsenal and a second yellow card for Olsson neither of which were given;
- Min 75 Morrison should have had a second yellow card for a foul on Campbell;
- Min 84 the penalty that Arsenal was correctly awarded should have been retaken due to encroachment by two West Brom players. A minimum of two points and almost certainly three robbed by Mr Clattenberg
24 January Arsenal v Chelsea (0-1)
Referee Review: Arsenal – Chelsea |
76% overall weighted score, bias against the two teams 35/65 and one wrong Important Decision when in Min 56 Kos fouled Fabregas in our penalty area and Mr Clattenberg didn’t award the penalty. A game where Mr Clattenberg had a decent enough game, didn’t affect the result and even gave a balance of wrong decisions in favour of Arsenal
19 March Everton v Arsenal (0-2)
Ref Review: Everton – Arsenal, more of the terrible the same…. |
43% overall weighted score, bias against the two teams 6/94 and two wrong Important Decisions. Min 34 both Besic and Funes fouled Alexis in the penalty area, no penalty given, Min81 Funes should have been given a second yellow card for a foul on Giroud. Awful refereeing despite which we won the game.
15 May Arsenal 4 Aston Villa 0
Ref Review : Arsenal – Aston Villa: did we see any change in referee approach in the last game of the season? |
64% overall, bias against the two teams 58/42 and 3 wrong Important Decisions. Min 5 the goal from Giroud shouldn’t have counted as it had gone out of play before reaching him, Min 23 and 51 We should have had two penalties each one for a foul on Giroud by Toner. Below the 70% minimum acceptable level but the bias numbers were just within the 60/40 point so not too bad from that point of view.
Four appearances then from a FIFA Accredited referee and only one was above the 70% minimum acceptable level. No fewer than 11 wrong Important Decisions which is totally unacceptable. One game where his errors ensured that we lost.
Going back to the previous season 2014-15 and we had him for two games
Ref Review : Arsenal – Man City |
71% Overall, bias against the two teams 73/27 and two wrong Important Decisions. Min 45 Milner should have a second yellow card for a foul and Min 76 Wilshere should have conceded a penalty for handball. The game ended as a 2 – 2 draw, City should probably have won it 3 – 2 so two points gifted to Arsenal.
Ref Review: Crystal Palace – Arsenal |
80% overall, bias against the two teams of 18/82 and 2 wrong Important Decisions. Min2 Özil called back erroneously for offside (he was a meter onside and finished the ball into the net) Min 3 Coquelin should have been dismissed for a high foot on Campbell. I called this one as three points gained by Arsenal from the incorrect refereeing decisions.
Mr Clattenburg hasn’t yet featured in a Spurs game this season.
Summary
- For a FIFA Accredited referee Mr Clattenburg is usually as much use as a chocolate fireguard when it comes to Arsenal games.
- His overall weighted performance scores in his last seven Arsenal games have been 58.9, 42, 76, 43, 64, 71 and 80. Four games well below the minimum acceptable level of 70 and only two significantly better. 18 wrong Important Decisions in those seven games so roughly two and a half per game confirming that he is worse in Arsenal games than his league average for this year.
- Of those 18 decisions, 6 should have resulted in players being sent off, nine should have resulted in penalties (or penalty retakes) and 3 were wrongly awarded goals.
- His bias numbers are usually well up to the PGMO normal levels 97, 91, 94, 73 and 82% against Arsenal in the last 7 games, one game was within th e60/40 acceptable level and the final one was actually 65/35 in our favour which, no doubt, earned him a severe dressing down from his masters (I don’t think we can expect that kind of score on Saturday).
- He is far too lenient when it comes to poor challenges and despite him having a better than average eye for a penalty this year still misses far too many.
- He is also another referee partial to the old “phantom foul’ con trick. Blowing for a non-existent foul within striking distance of the Arsenal goal and giving our opposition a chance to score.
- We can expect to see at least three wrong Important Decisions, probably 2 penalties and a non sending off. The majority of the wrong decisions will favour Spurs.
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I expect Rose and Walker are practising the fall down when they are going to lose the ball trick right now.
They both like a dive.
I’ve no doubt Alli will try his “dragging his left foot against the defenders shin and going over” move as he did in midweek against Bayer Leverkusen. Unfortuantely for him there was no bent Premiership ref to give him the penalty then but on Sunday he will probably get it.
Again i say we have to watch out for spud’s tackles, as when they lose key players they mostly resort to bad tackles and roughness, alongside trying to cheat as much as possible.
How in the world did that lanky manu player(cant be bothered to look up the name to spell it right) not get punished for grabbing an opponent’s throat? That is a pure sign of aggression and it is not being punished?
Wow.
Just waiting to see how many fouls Delle Ali can get away with before being booked.
i think his average is about 5 before getting booked not including the snidey challenges he always gets away with
Mike Dean thrice for Bournemouth already this season? And so too is Michael Oliver, a 3rd timer for Watford this season. Wow! What do the Pgmol think they are doing? Don’t they know people are keeping tabs on their activities?
We all know what Mark Clattenburg and his assistants are capable of doing against Arsenal at the Ems this Sunday if his recent record against us in his officiating in our games is taken into consideration. That reminds me, is Mr Clattenburg who is from Durham a friend to that Arsenal hater, Adrian Durham of the Independent newspaper? If he is, Adrian Durham might have brainwashed him against Arsenal to consequently turn him to become one of the anti-Arsenal referees at the Pgmol. The Mark Clattenburg, a referee who was once a dependable Arsenal home referee that we can rely on to do his referring strictly in accordance with the laws and the rules of the game, but has now turned to be something else as he doesn’t want to see us getting all the points whenever he’s in the center in our games. The best he allows us these days is a point even when we have deservingly won the game to get all the 3 points.
This referee has now become notoriously known for his not giving anything to a team that protested against his decisions on the field of play. Even when such protests by the team’s player or playerss or the manager of team is a genuine complain and legitimate in nature. But Instead of Mr Clattenburg to listen and accept the protest quietly that he was wrong, and pacify the protesting player or players or their protesting manager, no, Mr Clattenburg won’t do that. He will instead of to do that, gives a yellow or a red card to the protesting player and he could even send the protesting manager to the stand. Only for the FA to charge him for attempted assault or using abusive language on a Pgmol match official which will consequently force the manager to part with some of his hard earned money.
Therefore, I strongly advice Le Prof to register any complain he has about Mr Clattenburg officiating during this match to the 4th match official. And any protesting Gunner who can’t help it but has to protest over a Spud rough tackling him or on a wrong decision taken against him by Mr Clattenburg, should do it minimally. So as not to draw the angers of this referee who might have come with every intention to deny us collecting maximum points from this game. The Gunners and Le Prof SHOULD not give Mr Clattenburg a chance to rob us the 3 points we are set to collect fron this match..
Mike Dean thrice for Bournemouth already this season? And so too is Michael Oliver, a 3rd timer for Watford this season. Wow! What do the Pgmol think they are doing? Don’t they know people are keeping tabs on their activities?
We all know what Mark Clattenburg and his assistants are capable of doing against Arsenal at the Ems this Sunday if his recent record against us in his officiating in our games is taken into consideration. That reminds me, is Mr Clattenburg who is from Durham a friend to that Arsenal hater, Adrian Durham of the Independent newspaper? If he is, Adrian Durham might have brainwashed him against Arsenal to consequently turned him to become one of the anti-Arsenal referees at the Pgmol. The Mark Clattenburg, a referee who was once a dependable Arsenal home referee that we can rely on to do his referring strictly in accordance with the laws and the rules of the game, but has now turned to be something else as he doesn’t want to see us getting all the points whenever he’s in the center in our games. The best he allows us these days is a point even when we have deservingly won the game to get all the 3 points.
This referee has now become notoriously known for his not giving anything to a team that protested against his decisions on the field of play. Even when such protests by the team’s player or playerss or the manager of the team is a genuine complain and legitimate in nature. But Instead of Mr Clattenburg to listen and accept the protest quietly that he was wrong, and pacify the protesting player or players or their protesting manager, no, Mr Clattenburg won’t do that. He will instead of to do that, gives a yellow or a red card to the protesting player and he could even send the protesting manager to the stand. Only for the FA to charge him for attempted assault or using abusive language on a Pgmol match official which will consequently forced the manager to part with some of his hard earned money.
Therefore, I strongly advice Le Prof to register any complain he has about Mr Clattenburg officiating during this match to the 4th match official. And any protesting Gunner who can’t help it but has to protest over a Spud rough tackling him or on a wrong decision taken against him by Mr Clattenburg, should do it minimally. So as not to draw the angers of this referee who might have come with every intention to deny us collecting maximum points from this game. The Gunners and Le Prof SHOULD not give Mr Clattenburg a chance to rob us the 3 points we are set to collect fron this match..
Clattenburg was MoTM for Spurs in their victory over City last season and he was in charge for their thug-fest against Chelsea when he failed to issue a single red card for either team.
Funny thing about Spuds:
They haven’t had a single red card since the beginning of the last season despite making most fouls in the league. What is even more interesting, they have had three post-match suspensions (Alli, Dembele, Sissoko) in that period.
@Josif…I agree with your comments about them not receiving red cards…funny ‘ol game.
I hope we stomp them;everybody loves mashed potatoes.
Highlights of a Chicken (cockspur) Potpie with Chive Mash Potatoes Recipe
Two pounds of whole chicken breasts from a one winged rooster
1/4 pound grape onions (about 1 Cup). You better not have a grape with that.
2 medium carrots, cut into 1/4 inch thick slices
2 celery ribs, cut into 1/4 inch thick pieces.
1/2 Cup of thawed, frozen green peas (Survivior Peas?)
1/4 pound muschrooms, sliced thin
2 tablespoons unsalted butter
1/4 Cup finely chopped shallots
1 bay leaf
1/4 teaspoon dried thyme (Hi-Ho Silver Thyme?)
1/4 teaspoon dried tarragon
1/4 Cup all purpose flour
1/3 Cup dry white whinge
2 1/2 Cup low-salt rooster broth
freshly grated nutmeg to taste. (Lloris nutmeg is best.)
1 Tablespoon medium dry sherry (Amontillado?)
A little something from Craft Beer Company in Islington for the cook.
1 1/2 pounds russet potatoes
1/4 Cup low-fat sour cream
2/3 Tablespoons minced fresh chives (chive on Gunners!)
Suggestions for corrections or clarifications desired.
In looking for unusual news about the upcoming NLD, I happened across a story from the Cartiliage Free Captain (a Tottenham supporter). I had run across this person before, there was a good story with an Arsenal connection a year or two ago. Someone got hurt? I don’t remember.
Anyway, I gather in 2014 a Tottenham graduate Ryan Mason had his EPL debut playing for Tottenham against Arsenal at Wenger Stadium. He later got a long term contract, got injured, and was sold to Hull. A Hull of a place to end up, eh?
In any event, it seems possible that Tottenham may spring another Tottenham graduate on us in this game, one Harry Winks.
Not football news. Alexis Sanchez is from a little place in northern Chile, near the Atacama desert (Tocopilla). There isn’t very much Chile north of Tocopilla, the border with Peru is close. But a town called Arica in Chile is north (11 miles form border).
It seems a minke whale stranded itself there, and a bunch of local fishermen managed to get this whale off the beach and back in the ocean.
When asked how it got to be stranded, it said it somehow got sidetracked by this huge potato. It seems that Chile is the home of all potato on Earth (Peru disputes this).
I believe the whale said COYG as it made its way back to deeper water.
And so went, the North Chilean Derby.
Ominous that he was in charge of the Chelsea Spurs game. Also thought he was ludicrous at times in our game away at Everton last year. Blatant pen not given, highly dubious goal disallowed, extremely erratic on fouls and cards. None of it in our favour
He’s a very talented ref, can’t do CL and Euro finals if you aren’t, so it’s all about whether he’s trustworthy in the prem. Caught my eye the other day that he focused intently on the feet when players came together right in front of him, and gave a deserved yellow which most refs would miss for a sneaky ankle stamp.
I find it hard to envisage us losing this unless the ref has an appalling game, either by gifting them a pen or red card or letting them get away with constant fouls.
Not so long ago I’d be thinking he got this game as Riley’s way of saying ‘you fucked up at Utd, now redeem yourself ‘; not sure now but I’m expecting plenty of tilting anyway.
Early action very important. Our confidence is high, theirs fragile; the plan will be to foul us onto an even playing field.
To my untrained eye, Mr Clattenberg seems a much better ref away from the Prem league for some reason, maybe, more relaxed, free to do his job.
Clearly a decent ref, amongst the fittest of all of them.
As ever, I wish him well and hope he and his officials have the game of their lives on Sunday.
But, the media love of Spurs clearly influencing refs, and what they get away with is a concern. DA and. Dier seem untouchable on the field of play, but if our players retaliate, we all know what happens.
I suspect we will have to beat a team and a ref, but our players must be used to that by now.
Hope the ref cracks down on their frequent use of the elbow, at present, they are a wounded animal , and will clearly resort to the dark arts tomorrow.
Xhaka should watch out,I will be angry with him if his red card cost us this match.
The PGMOB handicap has undeniably helped some of these Tottenham footballers kick and hack their way above their station, as all could witness upon the football field against Iceland when they didn’t have such ‘game management’ to assist their clogging cart-horses.
To summarise: the Tottenham players can be observed to be a bunch of diving clogging cheats, pardon me. Let’s hope that the Arsenal can correct this insult to good football teams everywhere (no matter the level they play at).
Josif said it best in his post @ 6:13 pm. Unfortunately, I expect the same. I used to respect Clattenburg but lately he’s become Mike Dean and Howard Webb, i.e. he thinks he’s the show.