How many points does Arsenal need to win the league?

 

 

By Tony Attwood

One of the techniques you would need to learn if you wanted to be a journalist, is to find something that is factually true and then state it as a revelation.  The Guardian does it today when writing, as they so often do, of the supposed glory days of Liverpool and Manchester City, with the statement, tinged as it is with regret, that “The seasons when both clubs would soar past 90 points are past.”

And we can say that is quite true.    Arsenal could reach 95 if they win every match this season.   The others can’t make the 90s.  

But there are two issues here.   One is that to win the league, Arsenal simply have to get more points than the others, not reach an all-time high.   And the other is that ManC and Liverpool will drop a few more points en route., and the small matter of the fact that one (or if it is a draw both of them) will drop points today, since they are playing each other.

So yes, as the Guardian does say “The seasons when both clubs would soar past 90 points are past.”   But it doesn’t matter.  

Below is the top of the table before today’s games, but before we get to that, I would also like to emphasise just what games Arsenal have coming up in the near future….

The next league match is Brentford away on Thursday, followed by Wigan at home on Sunday in the FA Cup.  Then it is Wolverhampton away in the League on Wednesday 18th, before Tottenham away on Sunday 22nd.  And after that, quite amazingly, we have a week without an Arsenal game – a rarity indeed.   The only issue is that it is followed by Chelsea at home on March 1.

And my point is that these are not the most difficult of fixtures, and with a spot of good luck and the wind blowing in the right direction, things could continue to go very well.  Here’s this morning’s chart…

 

Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Arsenal 25 17 5 3 49 17 32 56
2 Manchester City 24 14 5 5 49 23 26 47
3 Aston Villa 25 14 5 6 36 27 9 47
4 Manchester United 25 12 8 5 46 36 10 44
5 Chelsea 25 12 7 6 45 28 17 43
6 Liverpool 24 11 6 7 39 33 6 39

 

And as a bit of interest this morning I also took a closer look on how London clubs are doing, since although obviously I support Arsenal, I do have a feeling for London, my home city, and would sooner see London clubs near the top than the foot of the table.

In fact the London club table reads

 

  Club P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Arsenal 25 17 5 3 49 17 32 56
5 Chelsea 25 12 7 6 45 28 17 43
7 Brentford 25 12 3 10 39 34 5 39
10 Fulham 25 10 4 11 35 37 -2 34
14 Tottenham Hotspur 25 7 8 10 35 35 0 29
15 Crystal Palace 24 7 8 9 25 29 -4 29
18 West Ham United 25 6 5 14 31 48 -17 23

 

and it reminds me that 35% of the Premier League is in London.   

The Championship has three London teams and one of them, Millwall, could make it up next season, but I suspect that won’t happen.  Although we must remember that one upon a time London did have eight teams in the top league.  That was in 1989/90 and those teams were Arsenal, Charlton Athletic, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Millwall, Queens Park Rangers, Tottenham Hotspur, and Wimbledon.

Anyway, moving on, it must surely be time to recognise that finally, finally, finally the media is coming to understand that, as the Observer says today, “Gyökeres’ gifts of bundling and poaching suggest Arsenal have found the real thing.”   

I would of course add, as I have been trying to do for a while, that his ability to draw defenders away from other goal scorers has been a major factor in Arsenal now being equal top scorers in the league (at least until this afternoon).   Here’s the table for now, and if you are peering at this, it is also worth noting just how good our defence is compared to others.

 

Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Arsenal 25 17 5 3 49 17 32 56
2 Manchester City 24 14 5 5 49 23 26 47
4 Manchester United 25 12 8 5 46 36 10 44
5 Chelsea 25 12 7 6 45 28 17 43
11 AFC Bournemouth 25 8 10 7 41 44 -3 34

 

The next league match is Brentford away on Thursday, followed by Wigan at home on Sunday in the FA Cup.  Then it is Wolverhampton away in the League on Wednesday 18th, before Tottenham away on Sunday 22nd.  And after that, quite amazingly, we have a week without an Arsenal game!   The only issue is that it is followed the by Chelsea at home on March 1.

However, these are not the most difficult of fixtures, and with a spot of good luck and the wind blowing in the right direction, things could continue to go very well.

As you will know we have 56 points from 25 games.  Last year we had 53 points from 25 games.  In 2024 it was 55 points from 25 games.   Back in 2023 it was 60 points from 25 games. and in 2022 it was 48 points from 25 games.

What this shows very obviously is that most of the time winning the league is not just about how well Arsenal do, but how well one or two other top clubs are doing.   We might one day become the absolute supreme club that will win the league no matter what anyone else comes up with, but not yet.

But I do think we are getting there.

 

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2 Replies to “How many points does Arsenal need to win the league?”

  1. So yes, as the Guardian does say “The seasons when both clubs would soar past 90 points are past.”

    Personally I don’t think this is a genuine lamentation of things gone by, but rather just another way of having a ‘not so sly’, dig at Arsenal.

    -Dark Arts Arsenal.

    -Same old Arsenal always cheating, Arsenal

    -Set Piece Arsenal

    -Don’t score enough open play goals, Arsenal

    -Boring Arsenal.

    -Bottle job Arsenal

    -Whinging Arsenal

    -Lucky Arsenal

    -Worst quality Premier League in History

    Now add to that ‘Don’t get enough points’ Arsenal.

    It appears that any way at all that they can ‘knock’, ‘undermine’ or ‘discredit’ Arsenal they will. But as I pointed out in my article a week or so ago, other teams have won the title with less points and goals than we are likely to finish on this season Teams have ran away with the title by 19 points. Two teams have pulled clear.

    But here’s the thing. When a team or two scoot clear, is it because they are so good or all the rest are bad?

    In a tight table is that because they are all poor ,or all good?

    I think we know the answer don’t we. It depends who’s at the top.

  2. Nitram, I share your views completely.

    With the rare 3pm kick-off yesterday, I relied on BBC radio 5 and Sky updates from Merson for news on our game.

    Clear echoes of Chelsea commentaries in the semi-final: Sunderland were in the game, causing Arsenal problems, coping comfortably with our attacks etc. This was not the easy game that Arsenal might have expected. Our defence having panic-stricken moments, no sign of an Arsenal break-through. Then Zubimendi scored!

    Second-half much the same, with Merson saying that without a second goal, we would be in trouble. Then Gyokeres scored and it was suddenly “game -over” according to Merson.

    The post-match reports, the subsequent tv highlights as well as the comments of Sunderland’s manager showed just how different the true position was and how superior Arsenal were to a decent Sunderland team, which did not rely totally on 10 man defence.

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