17 responses

  1. John L.
    30/07/2016

    British press and media is also biased against the leader of the Labour Party. As well as all their usual pro-Tory motives, no doubt the fact that he supports Arsenal is a factor.

  2. Leon
    30/07/2016

    Tony, with respect, I think you’re overlooking injuries to: Jenkinson, Welbeck & Sanchez. There was also an issue with Santi which may have been resolved by now.

  3. Leon
    30/07/2016

    John L

    I also can’t stand Corbyn, and it has nothing at all to do with his support for Arsenal.

  4. Robert
    30/07/2016

    Arsenal currently have three players with long term injuries: Mertesacker, Jenkinson and Welbeck. That could be the “number” the Guardian meant.

    “Thus we can see that Arsenal are four times as likely to get negative stories than Liverpool and Chelsea.”
    A two day sample that includes unreliable click-bait blogs is not definitive proof of British Press bias.

    “Liverpool and Chelsea are always being talked up as possible champions.”
    Always? Where’s your proof?

  5. Richie
    30/07/2016

    It’s something that needs more highlighting and attention because it’s mainstream media laziness and bullying. Sky are a major part of the negative programming that comes out of the media. People are looking to be told how to interpret reality and football is included. Personally I’m tired of the negatives that are exaggerated around wen get and arsenal but I don’t think it will change even if we win a league. The media hhas it’s targets and we get is an easy one.

  6. Ukesox
    30/07/2016

    “No one likes us …we don’t care”

  7. Naveen Pranesh`
    30/07/2016

    I think the bias has do with how the journalists themselves feel about the treatment of press by Arsenal FC. Wenger’s and AFC’s approach of not telling anybody about transfers and internal stuff makes them less friendly towards Arsenal because they have a difficult job to do now. In a way, Journalists and blogs have the same mindset of AAA fans like you mentioned.

  8. Gooner Addict
    30/07/2016

    I think most media took the best advantage to criticize us mainly to increase their ratings.

  9. Ryan F
    30/07/2016

    Everyone thinks the media are against them. There’s a guy I work with who supports the Spuds, always banging on about an anti-Spuds bias in the media.

    Just look at how the media reacted to England’s defeat in the Euros, especially the Sun’s hatchet job on Raheem Sterling.

    The thing is, bad news sells papers, good news doesn’t. A story about X club in crisis is going to be more interesting that a story saying Y club are all perfect and rosy. It’s how journalism works.

    This site has often (rightly) criticised the press for being unduly negative and also for making up transfer gossip. That’s fair enough, but it’s a point so obvious it’s hardly worth making.

    And on the subject of ‘days lost through injury’, obviously that doesn’t take into account how important those injuries are. On that table, a week of injury to Stoke’s second-choice left-back is counted equally with a week’s injury to Cazorla.

    Arsenal statistically may not have as many injuries as other clubs, but it’s the injuries to important players that’s the main point here.

    The Spuds may have had more injury days than us, but tellingly, the likes of Kane, Erikssen etc. stayed fit, and the bad injuries were to fringe players like Mason, Bentaleb and N’Jie. I would suggest our first XI was very much plagued by injuries, in a way that other clubs weren’t, which isn’t reflected on the ‘days lost to injury’ table.

  10. colario
    30/07/2016

    I get CNN the American TV news Channel which like Fox TV has a Republican bias.

    They showed both party conferences live. I was asleep much of the time these conferences were taking place.

    I watched/listened to CNN reports on the Trump Republican and Clinton Democrat speeches.

    They were negative to Trump ( so CNN was fair). Was it? They praised Clinton’s speech, they said it was good. You see they showed beyond all manner of doubt that CNN can be unbiased in its reporting except with Clinton’s speech they did something that they didn’t do with their report on Trump’s speech.

    CNN told us that Mrs Clinton was as good as previous speeches to conference there have been much better ones we were told.

    Why the comparison? The broadcast was meant to be a news item not a comparative history lesson.

    I mention this to point out how subtle criticism by the media of those it dislikes can be.

    They would have had a lot to answer for if they had openly said the speech was not good so they threw the idea in as different aspect of the speech without any evidence for their.

    What we read and hear in the media about Arsenal is the opposite the openly constant repeating implying it is bad as in ‘haven’t won for x years’.

    To day the function of the media is not to publish news but to publish opinion and to publish popular opinion for that gives it the biggest following and secures advertising.

    When the purpose was to publish news then it was extreme good news or extreme bad news that sold so it is with opinion.

    I should add in fairness to the Guardian on line that I was able to read the speeches in full. Much appreciated.

  11. nicky
    30/07/2016

    Tony,
    In your summary of Arsenal Managers, why has George Allison omitted?
    He led Arsenal to the only instance when the Club successfully retained a Championship.
    His record stands unbeatable to this day.

  12. Andrew crawshaw
    30/07/2016

    Off topic but ArsenalU19s are currently two nil up against Sporting Lisbon in their second game in the Durban Cup. 68 minutes played.

  13. Gord
    30/07/2016

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arsenal_F.C._managers
    1893-1897 committee
    1897-1898 Thomas Mitchell _ _45 _23 _ 8 _14 _106 _ 79
    1898-1899 William Elcoat _ _ _9 _ 6 _ 2 _ 1 _ 21 _ _8
    1899-1899 Arthur Kennedy _ _ 15 _ 8 _ 3 _ 4 _ 31 _ 17
    1899-1904 Harry Bradshaw _ _235 118 _44 _73 _403 _237
    1904-1908 Phil Kelso _ _ _ _152 _63 _31 _58 _225 _229
    1908-1915 George Morrell _ _309 113 _74 122 _392 _428
    1915-1919 James McEwen _ _ _ _2 _ 1 _ 0 _ 1 _ _7 _ _3
    1919-1925 Leslie Knighton _ 286 105 _63 118 _367 _401
    1925-1934 Herbert Chapman _ 411 204 _97 110 _879 _616
    1934-1934 Joe Shaw _ _ _ _ _ 23 _14 _ 3 _ 6 _ 44 _ 29
    1934-1947 George Allison _ _279 129 _74 _76 _534 _327
    1947-1956 Tom Whittaker _ _ 430 203 106 121 _802 _568
    1956-1958 Jack Crayston _ _ _81 _34 _17 _30 _148 _151
    1958-1962 George Swindon _ _186 _76 _43 _67 _336 _330
    1962-1966 Billy Wright _ _ _182 _70 _43 _69 _336 _330
    1966-1976 Bertie Mee _ _ _ _539 241 148 150 _739 _542
    1976-1983 Terry Neill _ _ _ 416 187 117 112 _601 _446
    1983-1986 Don Howe _ _ _ _ _117 _54 _32 _31 _187 _142
    1986-1986 Steve Burtenshaw _ 11 _ 3 _ 2 _ 6 _ _7 _ 15
    1986-1995 George Graham _ _ 460 225 133 102 _711 _403
    1995-1995 Stewart Houston _ _19 _ 7 _ 3 _ 9 _ 29 _ 25
    1995-1996 Bruce Rioch _ _ _ _47 _22 _15 _10 _ 67 _ 37
    1996-1996 Stewart Houston _ _ 6 _ 2 _ 2 _ 2 _ 11 _ 10
    1996-1996 Pat Rice _ _ _ _ _ _4 _ 3 _ 0 _ 1 _ 10 _ _4
    1996- _ _ Arsene Wenger _ _1120 641 261 218 1922 1013

    Fields are:
    StartYear-End-Year
    Name
    Matches
    Win
    Draw
    Loss
    Goals For
    Goals Against

  14. Gord
    30/07/2016

    1893-1897 committee
    1897-1898 Thomas Mitchell _ _106 _ 79 __ 2.81s
    1898-1899 William Elcoat _ _ _21 _ _8 __ 3.41s
    1899-1899 Arthur Kennedy _ _ 31 _ 17 __ 2.86s
    1899-1904 Harry Bradshaw _ _ 403 _237 __ 9.28s
    1904-1908 Phil Kelso _ _ _ _ 225 _229 __ -0.27s
    1908-1915 George Morrell _ _ 392 _428 __ -1.78s
    1915-1919 James McEwen _ _ _ _ 7 _ _3 __ 1.79s
    1919-1925 Leslie Knighton _ 367 _401 __ -1.74s
    1925-1934 Herbert Chapman _ 879 _616 __ 9.62s
    1934-1934 Joe Shaw _ _ _ _ _ 44 _ 29 __ 2.48s
    1934-1947 George Allison _ _ 534 _327 __ 9.98s
    1947-1956 Tom Whittaker _ _ 802 _568 __ 8.94s
    1956-1958 Jack Crayston _ _ _148 _151 __ -0.25s
    1958-1962 George Swindon _ _ 336 _330 __ 0.33s
    1962-1966 Billy Wright _ _ _ 336 _330 __ 0.33s
    1966-1976 Bertie Mee _ _ _ _ 739 _542 __ 7.78s
    1976-1983 Terry Neill _ _ _ 601 _446 __ 6.77s
    1983-1986 Don Howe _ _ _ _ _ 187 _142 __ 3.51s
    1986-1986 Steve Burtenshaw _ 7 _ 15 __ -2.41s
    1986-1995 George Graham _ _ 711 _403 __ 13.1s
    1995-1995 Stewart Houston _ _ 29 _ 25 __ 0.77s
    1995-1996 Bruce Rioch _ _ _ _ 67 _ 37 __ 4.16s
    1996-1996 Stewart Houston _ _ 11 _ 10 __ 0.31s
    1996-1996 Pat Rice _ _ _ _ _ _10 _ _4 __ 2.27s
    1996- _ _ Arsene Wenger _ _ 1922 1013 __ 23.7s

    Fields are:
    StartYear-EndYear
    Name
    Matches
    Goals For
    Goals Against
    GoalDifference/StdDev

    Sorting on this adjusted goal difference, I would say the bottom of the list has James McEwan, Stewart Houston, George Swindon, Billy Wright, Stewart Houston (again), Jack Crayston, Phil Kelso, Leslie Knighton, George Morrell and Steve Burtenshaw as not very effective managers. Nominally struggling to score as many goals as the opposition.

    Bruce Rioch, Don Howe, William Elcoat, Arthur Kennedy, Thomas Mitchell, Joe Shaw and Pat Rice all seem to be able to statistically outscore the opposition, but it is close to being even with them too.

    George Graham, George Allison, Herbert Chapman, Tom Whittaker, Bertie Mee and Terry Neill were pretty consistent in outscoring the opposition.

    And then there is Arsene Wenger.

  15. Gord
    30/07/2016

    I ran across one particular list of the Top-20 managers of all time, Wenger not even listed. Only 5 had the goals information provided:

    Guardiola 28.7s
    Hiddink 23.3s
    Herrera 15.6s
    Trapattoni 24.0s
    SAF 36.6s

  16. Chris
    30/07/2016

    here is another perfect example

    http://www.shoot.co.uk/arsenals-new-25-3m-centre-half-set-to-land-in-london-on-sunday/

    Second paragraph : The premier league side who finished 10 points adrift….

    Then this one :

    http://www.shoot.co.uk/chelsea-fail-with-57m-raid-to-re-sign-25-goal-premier-league-hitman/

    Nowhere in the article is there mention of the fact that they finished…..well you know…no CL, mid table etc etc

  17. westwing
    31/07/2016

    Am reading Stan is very good friend of Trump so does Arsene not like Jeremy? My Hawaiian friends are all supporting Pep for new season as they say no one excited anymore with Arsene. I think maybe Liverpool win PL but Arsene come good second if not Tottenham. Hawaii love Jeremy but maybe not Arsene anymore.

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