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When Arsenal signed a cup winner for £2m and a lot of “fans” sneered

The Arsenal anniversary series appears daily on the Arsenal History Society web site – except it can’t this weekend as we’ve been upgrading that site from http to https – and something has gone amiss.  So until we get that fixed, I’m posting the daily list of anniversaries on Untold.

Hopefully the History Society, both with its anniversaries and with its comprehensive review of “Henry Norris at the Arsenal” will be back tomorrow.


 

22 July 1934 Danny Clapton born in Stepney, and played for Leytonstone as an amateur before joining Arsenal in August 1953

22 July 1966: Tony Burns transferred to Brighton.   He played as a goalkeeper 31 times for Arsenal. He continued playing until 1979, most notably playing 90 games for Crystal Palace, and then became a manager, and later goalkeeping coach.

22 July 1971 Jon Sammels sold to Leicester for £100,000, after becoming a victim of the “boo-boys” in the crowd.  He had played 215 league games and went on to play 241 for Leicester, leaving them for Canada in 1977.

22 July 1989: First appearance of goalkeeper Alan Miller in a friendly against Skelleftea.  He played nine times for Arsenal and then after several loan spells moved to Middlesbrough in 1994.

22 July 1990: Andy Linighan and David Seaman debuts v Varberg Bois.  Linighan joined from Norwich while Seaman came from Queens Park Rangers.

22 July 1992 David Rocastle sold to the league champions Leeds for £2m.  Later reports strongly suggested that he was very much sold against his will and was deeply distressed by the move forced upon him by George Graham.

22 July 2003: Oleg Luzhny sold to Wolverhampton W.  Luzhny played 110 league games for Arsenal and was part of the team that won the 2001/2 double

22 July 2003: SC Ritzing drew with Arsenal to make it one defeat two draws and
no wins in pre-season games. Matters picked up later and Arsenal won four of
the nine pre-season games all told before embarking on the Unbeaten season.

22 July 2004: Mathieu Flamini signed from Marseille on a free transfer – a profile he continued through his career, never once commanding a transfer fee.    He played 102 times for Arsenal before moving on to Milan; returning in 2013, and then leaving again for Palace.

22 July 2006: The Emirates Stadium opened with the Dennis Bergkamp testimonial,  Dennis’ father kicked off the match. Dennis had played 423 games for Arsenal, and was part of both Arsène Wenger’s two Doubles and the Unbeaten Season.

22 July 2016: Arsenal signed Bolton’s Player of the Year Rob Holding for £2m.  The transfer was met with wholesale derision by the anti-Wengerian mobs who were spurred on by the mass media and their newly emerging small scale blogs.   Although no one seemed to apologise for the abuse by the end of the season when Holding put in a sterling display in the Cup Final to see off Chelsea, it was apparent that this was another Wenger work of absolute brilliance.

22 July 2013: Arsenal played Nagoya Grampus, the club Arsène Wenger managed
before Arsenal.  Arsenal won 3-1 with goals from Giroud, Ryo and Walcott.

 

 

22 comments to When Arsenal signed a cup winner for £2m and a lot of “fans” sneered

  • Masterstroke

    Absolute lies!!
    There was no ‘wholesale derision’ of Wenger over the Rob Holding transfer.
    It had been in the rumours & gossip for some time and was widely positively received.
    And speaking of ‘sneering”……. well you should know.

  • Try Talksport 19 July 2016, HITC “It was Holding’s Premier League debut for Arsenal, and it was a match that he would rather forget.” “Rob Holding was voted player of the year at a club that got relegated to League 1 …”
    Painful part is that he’s a Central Defender” (Sun) DON’T HOLD YOUR BREATH Arsenal sign young Bolton defender Rob Holding (Sun), “Arsenal fans in meltdown over latest signing – The Sun”, “Arsenal fans meltdown with the starting XI vs Bournemouth” (101 great goals) “Arsene Wenger Unsurprisingly Angers Arsenal Fans With Latest Signing” (90minutes), “Arsene Wenger Unsurprisingly Angers Arsenal Fans With Latest Signing” (Yahoo Sports) Arsenal await fan anger over transfer (The Times) Arsenal’s Rob Holding Receives Abuse From Own Fans Following (90 min),
    But if you don’t believe any of that try this report, “Arsenal defender Rob Holding was subjected to serious abuse from Gunners fans on Sunday, after their shock 4-2 defeat to managereless ​Championship side Nottingham Forest at the City Ground. While both the team and manager came in for criticism for the dismal display, 22-year-old Rob Holding was particularly targeted for his role in the defeat. 90 Min. And I was at that one so I know.

    Holding, who joined Arsenal from ​Bolton back in 2016, endured a torrid time dealing with Forrest’s Ben Brereton. He was also guilty of giving away the penalty which led to ​Forest’s third goal.

    Following the final whistle, Holding went over to applaud the Arsenal fans, however, he was then met with a torrent of abuse from the away stand. His performance was also criticised by fans on social media.

  • Jammy

    Masterstroke – Lol.

  • Masterstroke

    Holding was well received by most ‘fans’, and was not (as you suggest) a cup winner at that time. He was even as a prospect and any criticism since is another matter completely. Had nothing to do with his signing, and those sources you quote are hardly Arsenal fans are they?

  • Gord

    OT: Mesut Özil retires from international football

    Google only shows news articles form English speaking countries, at least to me. Here is a link to a German article (in English).

    https://www.dw.com/en/mesut-%C3%B6zil-quits-germany-over-erdogan-controversy/a-44777380

    It’s too bad Mesut got treated that way. Which is similar to how Arsenal get treated by the English media.

  • GoingGoingGooner

    Ich bin zufrieden und stolz dass Mesut Oezil das gesagt hat. I am happy and proud that Oezil has said this.

    Deutsche Welle has a good opinion piece ripping into the President of the DFB (German FA) (Grindel) https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-%C3%B6zils-anger-justified-now-grindel-must-face-the-music/a-44779814

    Imagine this happening at your place of work…I wouldn’t hang around.

  • U Know Who

    Abdou Diallo, 28m euros, fascilitated by the signing of Sokratis. Dortmund signed a 22 year old, we signed a 29 year old. They considered the move for the France U21 Captain, preferable to keeping Sokratis. They kept that quiet. BVB suggest this could be their biggest signing this season.

    scratch that one, so direct rivals will take likely veryplayer going, haha, yeah I’d have had enough as well!

  • U Know Who

    “Having gotten to know the Bundesliga at Mainz, I’m looking forward to the challenge of proving myself at a big club like Borussia Dortmund in the future,” Diallo said. “I can hardly wait to get started with the preseason preparations under Lucien Favre.”

    While the defender already is Dortmund’s fifth signing of the summer, the club have not sold any players so far.

    Their two major transfers last season — Ousmane Dembele to Barcelona for €105 million plus bonuses and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang to Arsenal for 63.75 million — means Dortmund are not expected to sell any players before July 1, when their new fiscal year begins.

  • potter

    Wenger has gone , Get over it.

    Even he has said he waited too long to leave , just accept things and get behind Emery .
    The king is dead long live the king.

  • GoingGoingGooner

    @potter… I have yet to read a critique of Emery on these boards…You’re right Wenger has gone…so get over it.

  • I am not going to go back through the hundreds of posts on this site that explore the link between the views of the media and the groups that wanted Wenger out but the evidence suggests they were strong and their voices most certainly could be heard from where I sit in the ground.

  • Brickfields Gunners

    Not to worry , Tony , most of us on here have long memories of the flack that was thrown AW’s way and we will NEVER forget those of whom slighted him.

    No amount of whitewash will ever paint over the over the top comments and unfounded criticisms .

    With AW gone , I wonder who the next target will be ? As you have shown above in the case of Rob Holding , it’ll probably be the players that AW bought on the cheap. I for one think that he will turn up to be a top player for us.

    Am looking forward to the games in neighboring Singapore . Hope there is live telecast of it.

    Up the Gunners !

  • Finsbury

    Brickfields

    No amount of disingenious perhaps unwell liars as per the above comments who have just been exposed on a public forum for being untruthful and unreliable can re-write what most people saw with objective observations.

    Which is why they can’t reply when people highlight such simple observations in response to their Gibberish 🙂

    No “Arsenal values” on display there.

  • Finsbury

    Oops this comment was meant to go below!

  • Jammy

    potter – I’d be interested if you can find a single article on here that doesn’t show support for Emery. If you could post the link as well that would be much appreciated. I won’t be holding my breath.

  • Brickfields Gunners

    @ Finsbury – 23/07/2018 at 10:38 am – I agree its the same old idiots and morons who we have been smacking and bitch slapping all this while , but their skulls are too thick !

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised that they thought that with the leaving of AW, this site would be rudderless and implode , but here we are again ( and forever!) to give our undivided support to the only club we love .

    And all that crap posturing and hype during the world cup by certain ( ahem!) parties has whetted my appetite and am looking forward to the new season to take on those fake Arsenal ‘fans’!

    One way or another its going to be a sweet season , and I intend to enjoy it to the max!
    WOO HOO, HOO !

  • Nitram

    Finsbury and Brickfields Gunners

    “I wouldn’t be at all surprised that they thought that with the leaving of AW, this site would be rudderless and implode , but here we are again ( and forever!) to give our undivided support to the only club we love.”

    Why I found Untold such a haven of reason and sanity all those years ago was not just because of their support of Arsene Wenger per say, but more to do with Untolds acknowledgement of, and opposition to, the disgracefully biased refereeing against us that was becoming so prevalent, and all done with the medias full and unrelenting support.

    Well before Untold was carrying out it’s in depth match reviews I was doing my own rudimentary assessments, mainly regarding the amount of Red and Yellow cards we were receiving, which seemed to me to be disproportionately high.

    As I say, it was very rudimentary using the old ‘fair play’ table published weekly in the Sun.

    I used a simple formula: Number of fouls divided by number of cards.

    Using this method, season after season we would be getting the worst or near worst ratio. A card around every 5.5 fouls. The average was about a card every 7.5 fouls. Man Utd, unsurprisingly achieved (if that’s the right word) a very favourable ratio.

    On the run up to the infamous match 50 at OT I think we were again getting a card about every 5.5 fouls. If memory serves United were getting cards at well under half that rate. I cant recall for certain (and I cant find the stats either so if anyone can help with those rudimentary stats for way back then), but I think it was about a card every 15 fouls.

    Anyway, I had the distinct feeling we were getting a very bad deal from the referees, and an equally bad deal from the media. Finding Untold and the realisation that it wasn’t just me that thought something was very very wrong was a great moment. A community of like minded Arsenal fans was fantastic for my sanity !!

    So as much as I have supported Wenger over the years it was not that that brought me to Untold in the first place, but rather the Refereeing and Media bias against us.

    And that is still what rankles with me to this day.

    I, like others on here, have had to face accusations of supporting Wenger over Arsenal, but the isn’t and never has been the truth.

    Wenger has gone. My Admiration for what he did for us remains. My respect for him as a human being remains. But I have moved on.

    My love for ARSENAL trumps everything (in football terms of course).

    I will support Emery and the boys as I have every other Arsenal manager and player.

    This doesn’t mean I am blind to managers and players having a bad day at the office. This doesn’t mean I think every player that pulls on the shirt is the best player in the World. This doesn’t mean every manager is as good as every other manager.

    But I will tell you one thing, I wont be on here whinging and whining after every bad result, poor performance, tactical change, player purchase or player sale I don’t like or agree with.

    I am an Arsenal ‘Supporter’ first and foremost, and that is what they will get from me, unequivocally, every day. MY SUPPORT.

  • Brickfields Gunners

    @ Nitram -24/07/2018 – A big LIKE ! from me .

    I came to like this site as what I was watching on tv did not tally with what the commentators , experts and the media was reporting . Very often I would ask my tv set (shout at more often! ) , ” Really ?” , especially when our players were getting booked , sent off , or when we were penalised with phantom fouls . I used to think then that this could only happen to the Arsenal . But why ?

    Offhand , I cannot think of any terrible or unspeakable fouls committed by our players that has shocked me . But can easily recall the many atrocities subjected on our players , some with serious damage to them.

    Thanks to Untold Arsenal , I believe that I was not alone then in thinking that something stinks to high heaven in the EPL. A conspiracy theorist of one would have been easy to dismiss , but millions ?

    We ARE watching you crooked shitheads , so beware . Karma , when it comes , will be a real bitch !

  • Nitram

    Brickfields Gunners

    “Offhand , I cannot think of any terrible or unspeakable fouls committed by our players that has shocked me . But can easily recall the many atrocities subjected on our players , some with serious damage to them.”

    Exactly. This, as you intimate , isn’t to say our guys are angels, but I too cannot recall one of our guys breaking an opponents leg, let alone ending a career.

    Yet when it happens against us and our players get emotional (Gallas) and our manager disgusted, and our fans up in arms, we are told to grow some balls. ‘It’s tough up North’. ‘Foreign softies’. ‘It’s a mans game’. All the usual shite to justify us being assaulted on a football pitch.

    We are constantly told we need a ‘beast’ in midfield, but the second we do have a player that ‘puts his foot in’ he gets booked or sent off every 5 minutes.

    Not only that but as usual the media jump all over them. Just look at how Xhaka gets treated

    “Thanks to Untold Arsenal , I believe that I was not alone then in thinking that something stinks to high heaven in the EPL. A conspiracy theorist of one would have been easy to dismiss , but millions ? ”

    Again, exactly.

    Our penalty stats for the last 15 years or so, when measured against our direct rivals with similar attack, defence, possession, territory, shots for and against statistics, are ridiculous.

    Yes 50/50 calls go for and against you, but by their nature they should go for you and against you, 50% of the time.

    When 50/50’s go against you 70 or 80% of the time, then something is very very wrong.

    As you say, it is NOT a conspiracy theory, it is a fact.

  • Nitram

    Jammy

    “potter – I’d be interested if you can find a single article on here that doesn’t show support for Emery. If you could post the link as well that would be much appreciated. I won’t be holding my breath.”

    I hope not Jammy because it seems potter is having a bit of trouble finding what you asked for.

    Still, I’ve no doubt he’ll be back saying the exact same thing in the future.

  • EMA

    Please Tony, how does fan anger at Holdings performance in a match over 6months after he was signed translate to mean anger at his signing?

  • I don’t think it does

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