How much longer can Arsenal go on losing this much money?

 

 

by Tony Attwood

In the last eight seasons, two teams have won the Premier League: 

In the eight seasons from 1966/67 to 1973/74, seven teams won the First Division.  They were Manchester United, Manchester City, Leeds United, Everton, Arsenal, Derby County and Liverpool.  The one club that won the league twice in this period was Leeds United.   

Of course, winning the league multiple times, with the same team/s being at the top over and over, is the European Way of doing things.  For example, in France, in the last 13 seasons, 11 of the titles have been won by Paris St German.  Lille and Monaco have each won it once.

In Germany, in the last 13 seasons Bayern Munich have won the league 12 times.  Bayer Leverkusen won it the other time largely because Bayern Munich brought in Harry Kane as centre forward.

In Spain, in the last 21 seasons, Barcelona have won the league 12 times, Real Madrid seven times and Atletico Madrid twice.

But ithis how it has to be?  Is this how it will be now in England forever?  After all in England in the last eight years Manchester City have won the league six times and Liverpool twice.

Of course, it never used to be like that.  In England in the 1960s, Liverpool won the league twice, Manchester United won it twice, and Burnley, Tottenham Hots, Ipswich Town, Everton, Manchester City and Leeds United each won it once.

Now obviously, we all want our team to win the league.  I want Arsenal to win – I wish they had come first rather than second in each of the last three seasons.  But to take a broader perspective, is it really that exciting when the same two or three teams win it all the time?

I think the answer is that unless it is your favourite team winning all the time, the answer is “no”. And indeed in the end the pattern becomes so entrenched that the belief that anyone else can win the league vanishes.  What’s worse, the big two or three clubs become bigger and bigger because they have European money all the time, and the rest slip further and further behind.  Competition in the real sense of the word vanishes.

And in case anyone feels like suggesting that I wouldn’t be bemoaning the fact of the same team winning over and over again if Arsenal had just won the league three times running, no of course I would not.  I have supported Arsenal from my earliest days when my family lived near the ground.  Of course, I want Arsenal to win things.

But taking a broader view, this domination by certain clubs is not good news, not least because the clubs that year after year have no chance of winning see their support drifting away.  Yes, the supporters still identify with their team, but they are overall less likely to go and watch.  

Part of the issue is that going to watch a football team can become a habit – a regular activity one does, irrespective of the results.   Certainly, this is encouraged and enhanced by the fact that Arsenal has a very high percentage of its home fan tickets sold as season tickets, and a requirement that they are used or sold back to the club (and even the number of times you can do that is limited).   

Apparently, the Arsenal season ticket waiting list is now around 100,000 people long, and the number of tickets moving hands officially each year is tiny, so there is a real demand.

But there is another factor underlying this.   Arsenal used to be a profit-making business before the current owners took over.  Now it is a loss-making business in a very big way.  In the season 2023/24, Arsenal lost £17.7m.  The year before Arsenal lost £52.1m.  The season before that it was £45.5m.  

Now of course, you might argue that the decline in the loss-making to £17.7m for 2023/24 was good news and shows Arsenal moving in the right direction.   But you only have to pause for a moment and look at the transfer dealings for this summer – £293m was spent and about £10m collected from sales.  Obviously, we don’t know anything about the income for the club in 2024/25 nor the expenditure (primarily on salaries of course, but other costs as well), but we can be sure that Arsenal will declare another whacking great loss.  Probably their biggest ever.

So the question remains – where does this end?   Arsenal might win the league this season – but even if they do, that doesn’t really generate much more money  A good run in the Champions League, as per last season, also helps, but again is not enough.

And as we have noted before, in the reign before the Kroenkes, Arsenal made money; now they lose money.  So the question remains, where does this end?   Do the current owners finally find a way of making money out of Arsenal, which of course they need to, because even with their enormous wealth, the money will run out in the end.   Or is there another way out that I’ve never thought of?

 

4 Replies to “How much longer can Arsenal go on losing this much money?”

  1. As an observation… If Arsenal as an entity keeps increasing in value, and this value keeps on increasing at a greater rate than the expenditure losses, do the owners view this as a ‘technical’ profit. If they spend 500m but their ‘possession’ increases by 550m, they will happily keep spending.

    If the players they are bringing in are increasing the squad quality, and therefore increasing the challenge for youngsters to break through, if it means that youth players push themselves to improve (and increase their value), is this not a good thing.

  2. I think the fast-tracking of Nwaneri, Lewis-Skelly, Dowman now, Salmon even might have something to do with what you point out here, Tony.
    With the FFP rule stating that the sales of academy players can be counted as pure profit; selling the 3/4 lads, with the possible addition of Bukayo, means that our owners could get their money back in no time, if need be …
    Provided they get playing time again this season of course, and keep improving – or playing at Ballon d’Or level in the case of Bukayo – £300m for the four/five of them does’t look like an impossible dream to be fulfilled to me.
    Of course, there is something very sad about this, though – half a starting XI of Hale End graduates is probably something we shouldn’t fancy too much about …

  3. You havent once mentioned prize money. Last season Arsenal earned over £280m of income for finishing 2nd in the league, achieving the 3rd highest income by finishing in the last 4 of the Champions League and they also finished in the last 4 of the carabao cup.

    People also need to understand how structuring of deals work, if they payments are spread and for how long, what add-ons if any are triggered per annum, are they receiving loans fees, are wages being fully covered during a loan? There is so much more to it. All this net spend is nonsense. Its all about how much you actually spend per year and what you receive in income and not just from sales

  4. Kris you are right – but if we go on like this the owners will get to a point where they don’t want to put any more money in. But the club’s whole mechanism is based on putting more money into the club each season. Then will anyone want to buy the club if it has the accumulated level of debt it will have by then?

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