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  1. Rich
    30/10/2016

    Media’s role in how we’re reffed was nicely illustrated by Motd’s edit of yesterday’s game.

    The non-booking of Pienar was extraordinary, and it may well be that some angles would have shown Atkinson to be a ridiculous liar if there was any view of him watching Pienar’s leg as he deliberately tripped the player. Mind you that wasn’t even needed as the player was running directly behind our man so Atkinson’s claim it was a ‘crossing over’ was always bogus.

    That’s all it would take to ramp up the pressure-show it, note how bad a call that was, and that the player only went and got himself one of those amber yellows before the half was out.

    But no mention, nor any discussion of the pen we should have had.

    Contrast this with any occasion when they can suggest we benefit from a generous or wrong referee decision- lots of replays, lots of discussion, upset Shearer and co.

    We all saw what a terrible performance it was from Atkinson but, thanks to the media ignoring it, he is free to be just as bad next time.

    Smith meanwhile seems about the sneakiest of the lot to me. Always leaps instantly to the defence of anyone who fouls us and tries to play it down, including the Smith challenge on Diaby, and always shows his disappointment if we do well by constantly asking why the opposition aren’t getting in our faces more and being more aggressive.

    You’d think listening to him yesterday that Sunderland made no challenges/fouls on us, missed numerous legitimate opportunities to contest for the ball, etc; that was’t the case- Sanchez alone was in a constant physical battle, fair and foul- at all so what he was really asking for was them to kick us more and be rasher in their challenges.

    This from him in the same week we lost a player for 8 weeks to a stupid unpunished foul, just the latest casualty in a decade or so of teams ‘getting closer’ to us which Smith fully supports.

    I’ll try keep a listen out for it but my impression is that when other teams win well the media are unlikely to attribute this to the opposition not being aggressive enough, while with us they invariably give that as the main cause. Over the years, that is bound to have a big impact on how we are seen, played against and,sadly, refereed (naive and easy to ref, according to one Howard Webb)

  2. Leon
    30/10/2016

    I know Alan Smith does a newspaper column, but I would never think of him as a journalist (who might be more measured), so his off the cuff “goodnight nurse” reference seems reasonable enough given the circumstances of Arsenal looking to be clear winners at the time he said it. It’s in common use and not just as a sporting quote, as is paraphrasing a famous British sit-com by a widely read blogger.
    Can’t think what Nail Quinn had in mind with his “not the fan’s fault”.

  3. HenryB
    30/10/2016

    A good Post, and interesting responses this morning, but what caught the eye was an incidental line in that I think offence was taken by Smith saying ‘that’s good night nurse’ after the third Arsenal goal, which is either the name of a kiwi band (which it is) or a term meaning ‘it’s all over’ first coined in a 1918 film starring the notorious Fatty Arbuckle.

    I cannot work out why it was deemed offensive – not that it matters.

  4. Rantetta
    30/10/2016

    An unfortunately necessary article. Thanks.

    Excellent, Rich.

    I see Leon is Rhys Jagger!

  5. MickHazel
    30/10/2016

    Rantetta
    Leon can’t be Rhys Jagger as well as Rupert.

  6. Rich
    30/10/2016

    Rantetta

    Cheers. And keep a listen out if you can to see if the same thing happens with other teams when they win/lose convincingly.

    I could easily be missing a lot of it, but I think/hope at least some of it would have registered with me over the years.

    Instead I think it’s all part of the same thing, directly or indirectly pushing the idea we are different and will be more affected by aggression than other top teams; a special approach, so to speak.

    What Smith and co omit to mention is that the success of those tactics, given that they are really talking about foul play, depend almost entirely on weak or bad refereeing- special refereeing for a special approach.

    Webb made the mistake of commenting half-honestly about it all by bringing up a load of nonsense about our naivety and how easy we became to referee. Statements which basically make no sense whatsoever if a ref’s job is simply to follow the rules of the game, punishing foul play and rewarding the cleaner team. A reminder of why saying nothing is the sensible approach for Pgmol and one they’ll presumably fight for till the death.

    Webb came fairly close to admitting they used special refereeing for the special approach. He couldn’t come up with a coherent or plausible justification for it- there really isn’t one- so just talked some shite which was actually strangely like the garbage the media push. Should have been torn apart for it, but there’s no one interested in doing so (apart form us!)

    Shouldn’t it be a case of ‘fool me once, shame on you…twice, shame on me’ if teams gain an advantage by Not Being naive?

  7. Leon
    30/10/2016

    Rantetta/Mick(Mick)Hazel

    So what do you find objectionable about my comment?
    If you’re going to troll me make it worth while.

  8. Norman14
    30/10/2016

    The more managers comment on PGMO – either it’s administration or it’s match officials, the more stupid the media look for not commenting or investigating properly.

    The response of the FA of managers questioning referees and PGMOL is to banish the complainer to the stands. Mourhino, already on a charge, can just about book a holiday with his wife and family for his sins of complaining about TWO referees. Pardew, whilst not complaining about the referee, but about the administration at PGMOL, and Riley specifically, will be an interesting case, and something any sports journalist worth their salt should be following it closely.

    Unfortunately, we don’t have any suitably interested, investigative sports journalists in the UK, so the status quo will once again, be maintained.

    That MP’s, asking questions of the FA Chairman, over allegations of “potential” corruption over the Allardyce affair, failed to question the role of PGMOL shows just how deep the rot is set.

  9. finsbury
    30/10/2016

    I guess that the esteemed plundit and scribbler Mr. Law must have missed or forgotten the distant 2015 FA cup final? No clues there, eh?

    Or that Sanchez played alongside the legendary striker Di Natale for years? And years. We were lucky enough to see him play for the Udines once in n5 just before the end of his career. Incredible movement and timing, not so different to what we saw in Sanchez’s first goal yesterday…

    It’s shame that the football hacks continuously forget about the actual football. I suppose when you aspire to follow the career path of Alan Partdridge (please refer to Keys etc. “truth is stranger fiction” and Steve Coogan is a genius…) that the football is not so important?

    As for Alan Smith. We know his ‘style’. What’s interesting is that this former ‘target man’ has for me never been able to hide in his tone his admiration for the big sexy lump who is his rightful heir at AFC, the best ‘target man’ in Europe these past few seasons.
    And that when compared to his incredulous “GET IN THEIR FACES” gibberish when anyone as in anyone watching the actual football can see that they are being allowed to pull back AFC players in the pelanty area etc. it is all: quite weird.

    Almost as if he is getting paid to say one thing, but thinks another.
    😉

  10. MickHazel
    30/10/2016

    Leon
    I didn’t find your comment objectionable I was merely commenting that you can’t be Rhys and Rupert (whom you have been compared to before by me and others) and it was a possibly poor attempt by me to be jocular. Sorry if it offended you.

  11. Brickfields Gunners
    30/10/2016

    In all fields of life we see the arse kissers , the apologists and the sycophants bending over backwards at very impossible angles until their target are reached !
    Sometime they are so well stuck , that only a crowbar could split them apart !You may not be able to differentiate between arse and mouth. Both stink to high heaven of course !

  12. Brickfields Gunners
    30/10/2016
  13. Leon
    30/10/2016

    MickHazel
    Yes I’m being regularly compared to the notorious Rupert, which is more boring than annoying. I’m not offended of course, but haven’t got a clue who Rhys Jagger is and why Rantetta thinks I’m him.
    I suppose it’s a bit too much to expect such an opinionated type to be big enough to give an explanation.

  14. Gord
    30/10/2016
  15. Gord
    30/10/2016

    OT: Trivia (accompanied by some nice accordion music)

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/arsenals-laurent-koscielny-only-fouled-9157001

    It seems that Koscielny has only been charged with 2 fouls this season. Remarkable.

  16. Gord
    30/10/2016

    The ladies finished up their home games this season with a 2-0 win over Doncaster. One game remaining, away to Liverpool

    Congratulations Ladies.

  17. Rantetta
    30/10/2016

    MickHazel,
    You’re right, mainly, he can’t be Rhys and Rupert. Or can he?
    I did laugh though.

    An opiniated guffaw, no less.

    Fins
    Thanks for your post re: Alexis. I’d forgotten his previous performance at the Ems.

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