Arsenal v Palace: Palace have only ever beaten Arsenal four times. The teams and the form.

by Bulldog Drummond

So since others have now realised that the defining issue in Arsenal’s league position, and the best way to predict results, is the difference between the away and home form, let’s take a look at that.

At home we remain a top three club… (these tables were written before all of this weekend’s games were completed).

Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Manchester City 18 17 0 1 56 12 44 51
2 Liverpool 17 15 2 0 48 10 38 47
3 Arsenal 17 14 2 1 39 12 27 44
4 Chelsea 17 11 5 1 34 10 24 38
5 Manchester United 16 10 5 1 32 20 12 35
6 Tottenham Hotspur 16 11 1 4 31 13 18 34

Away, Crystal Palace are decently placed being ahead of us in the away league table, although we now have one away game in hand (two over Tottenham, Watford and Palace).  A win in that first game in hand would take us into the top six on away form – still not where we want to be but a bit more like it.

Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Liverpool 17 11 5 1 29 10 19 38
2 Manchester City 16 11 2 3 31 10 21 35
3 Tottenham Hotspur 18 11 0 7 33 22 11 33
4 Manchester United 17 9 2 6 31 24 7 29
5 Chelsea 17 9 1 7 23 26 -3 28
6 Leicester City 18 7 4 7 27 27 0 25
7 Crystal Palace 17 7 2 8 26 26 0 23
8 Watford 18 6 5 7 26 28 -2 23
9 Arsenal 16 6 4 6 27 28 -1 22

So at home our one defeat remains the opening match of the season against Manchester City, with 14 wins and two draws.  Away for Palace, they are a more middle of the road team, with seven wins and eight defeats, and an zero goal balance.  Our plus 27 goals at home should see us through.

Incidentally Crystal Palace’s home form is awful – only Huddersfield have a worse home record.  And this is not a one off caused by the supporter rebellion we talked about earlier in the season – it is the sixth season running where Palace have been better away from home than at home.

And of course each result matters enormously now because of the bunching around third and fourth place – here is the actual table incorporating both home and away.

Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Manchester City 34 28 2 4 87 22 65 86
2 Liverpool 34 26 7 1 77 20 57 85
3 Tottenham Hotspur 34 22 1 11 64 35 29 67
4 Arsenal 33 20 6 7 66 40 26 66
5 Chelsea 34 20 6 8 57 36 21 66
6 Manchester United 33 19 7 7 63 44 19 64

With Tottenham losing to Manchester City away, we have every chance of moving up to third – all we need is a win.  A 3-0 victory will put us equal in terms of goal difference, and with the superior number of goals, that again could be helpful.

If we look at results from the start of February for Palace we see this…

Date Game Res Score Competition
02 Feb 2019 Crystal Palace v Fulham W 2-0 Premier League
09 Feb 2019 Crystal Palace v WHU D 1-1 Premier League
17 Feb 2019 Doncaster R v Crystal Palace W 0-2 FA Cup
23 Feb 2019 Leicester City v Crystal Palace W 1-4 Premier League
27 Feb 2019 Crystal Palace v Man Utd L 1-3 Premier League
02 Mar 2019 Burnley v Crystal Palace W 1-3 Premier League
09 Mar 2019 Crystal Palace v Brighton L 1-2 Premier League
16 Mar 2019 Watford v Crystal Palace L 2-1 FA Cup
30 Mar 2019 Crystal P v Huddersfield T W 2-0 Premier League
03 Apr 2019 Tottenham H v Crystal Palace L 2-0 Premier League
06 Apr 2019 Newcastle Utd v Crystal P W 0-1 Premier League
14 Apr 2019 Crystal Palace v Man C L 1-3 Premier League

Taking the last eight games five have been defeats, although their fixture list has been tough, for since 27 February they have played Manchester United, Tottenham Hots and Manchester City.  They have lost all three.

Arsenal across the same period from the start of February but removing the Europa games to make it more comparable, have two defeats, both away.  All four home games have been won.

Date Game Res Score Competition
03 Feb 2019 Manchester City v Arsenal L 3-1 Premier League
09 Feb 2019 Huddersfield Town v Arsenal W 1-2 Premier League
24 Feb 2019 Arsenal v Southampton W 2-0 Premier League
27 Feb 2019 Arsenal v AFC Bournemouth W 5-1 Premier League
02 Mar 2019 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 1-1 Premier League
10 Mar 2019 Arsenal v Manchester United W 2-0 Premier League
01 Apr 2019 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 2-0 Premier League
07 Apr 2019 Everton v Arsenal L 1-0 Premier League
15 Apr 2019 Watford v Arsenal W 0-1 Premier League

Also encouraging is Palace’s run against Arsenal.  Palace have won just one of the last 18 games between the two, since the start of 1995 and that was on 10 April 2017 when we lost 3-0 away.  Indeed the home results over that period look quite interesting…

Date Game Res Score Competition
15 Feb 1998 Arsenal v Crystal Palace D 0-0 FA Cup
21 Feb 1998 Arsenal v Crystal Palace W 1-0 Premier League
14 Feb 2005 Arsenal v Crystal Palace W 5-1 Premier League
02 Feb 2014 Arsenal v Crystal Palace W 2-0 Premier League
16 Aug 2014 Arsenal v Crystal Palace W 2-1 Premier League
17 Apr 2016 Arsenal v Crystal Palace D 1-1 Premier League
01 Jan 2017 Arsenal v Crystal Palace W 2-0 Premier League
20 Jan 2018 Arsenal v Crystal Palace W 4-1 Premier League

Just two draws among the wins.  And indeed if we bring into account all of the games between the two sides since we first met in 1934, we have won 28 and Palace have won four.

Sokratis is banned and Ramsey is freshly injured.  Suarez is recovering we are told.

For the team the Guardian gives us


Mustafi Koscielny Monreal

Maitland-Niles Torreira Xhaka Kolasinac

Ozil Iwobi


The Standard counters with


Mustafi, Koscielny, Monreal,

Maitland-Niles,  Kolasinac,

Guendouzi, Xhaka, Ozil,

Aubameyang, Lacazette


14 Replies to “Arsenal v Palace: Palace have only ever beaten Arsenal four times. The teams and the form.”

  1. Off topic but there are two Women’s matches today. We play Everton in the WSL with a 12:30 kickoff, which I’m on my way to. This match is on Television, not sure offhand if it’s the BBC Red Button it BT Sport. Either way you should’ve able to catch it on UK.

    At 15:30 our U21 Women’s team play Man United in the final of the FA Cup for that age group. As our U21 team is effectively an U 18 team they have done brilliantly to get this far, win or lose this afternoon they can be proud of their achievement.


  2. Can we have an article/discussion about UE’s win % in his first 50 games in charge of Arsenal? It’s quite impressive.

  3. Despite that football match result can a times turn against the form book, but notwithstanding this, I cannot see any reason that will make me to hesitate in my thoughts that the current inform Arsenal first team will not beat Crystal Palace in today’s PL match encounter at the Ems. For, there is even the incentive to go 3td in the table in the match that should push Arsenal to beat C Palace and regain the 3rd spot in the table from Tottenham Hotspur. And I believe Arsenal won’t miss this chance to go 3rd in the table this afternoon. But will seize the chance and make good of it and go 3rd. More so, as going 3rd this season could turnout to be a golden chance to get a Champion League spot next season for a 4th placed PL club side this season might not get a Champion League spot next season according to some football analysts. Save, it it won the Europa League Cup this season. Therefore, Arsenal should beat C Palace to go 3rd today unfailingly. And from there as a safeguard continue to remain 3rd till season’s end. I believe Emery and the Gunners know much about this.

    My Arsenal 4-2-3-1 starts and 7 man Gunners bench for the match are below.

    Mustafi Koscielny Mavropanous Monreal;
    Torreria Guendouzi;
    AMN Ozil Iwobi;

    Cech Jenkinson Kolasinac Elneny Mkhitaryan Aubameyang Nkethia.

  4. Arsenal Women winning by Two nil at half time. Strange game, we haven’t really played at anything like our best but have never looked like being in any kind of trouble. Miedema got our second and her 21st of the season.

  5. It looks like Beth Mead got wiped out at 57m, and VdD ran into the referee because of it? Guardian poor at reporting, the twitter feed says nothing.

    On the mens side, Everton are getting twice as many fouls called, and each team has one treatment. Everton have 2 goals and 1 card to ManU’s nothing.

    No line-ups available yet.


  6. Arsenal XI:
    Mustafi, Koscielny, Mavropanos
    Jenkinson Guendouzi, Elneny, Kolasinac
    Lacazette Aubameyang

    Beach: Cech, Mkhitaryan, Torriera, Maitland-Niles, Iwobi, Monreal, Nketiah


  7. Final score at Borehamwood two one. A moment of madness by Sari cab Veenendaal in our goal when she picked up a backpasd and was rightly penalised by an indirect kick about 8 metres from goal. Needless to say they made no mistake.

    Mead was completely taken out and the Everton player rather lucky to get away with a yellow card. Could easily have been red. Fortunately Beth was able to shake off the injury but it could easily have been a season ending one. Many of the referees in the women’s game don’t seem to be able to recognise the difference between poor challenges warranting a yellow card and a really nasty one which warrants a red.

  8. Everton now up by 4, fouls are Everton 10 – ManU 6.

    ManU needed a treatment just before half time, that man substituted at half time. Everton needed a treatment after the restart, which required a substitution a couple of minutes later. Nearing the end of the game, ManU inflict another treatment, which also requires a substitution.

  9. With their lacklustered performance away to Everton in the PL this afternoon culminating to the Red Devils losing the match 4 nil to the Toffers, the questions that are begging for answers now are, have Man Utd preferred to play in the Europa League over the Champions League next season? And for this unlikely unwelcome position to the Man Utd hierarchies who have been sacking their managers with reckless abandon, is Ole Gunnar Solstjaer, the current Man Utd manager in line to get the sack soon after he was appointed the Man U manager to make him the 4th Man Utd manager to be sacked since the departure of the legendary Sir Alex Ferguson from the club? Legendary? But the result of the Arsenal match away to Man United at Old Trafford in the PL in Arsenal 50th match in the PL across 2 season campaigns that might had seen Arsenal unbeaten for 50 consecutive matches in the PL if officiating in the match had been fair in the match. But for the cynical way the match was refereed by the Pgmo referee, Anthony Taylor who rigged the result of the match to favour Man Utd, Arsenal lost the match. This event has led me to question if Sir Alex was that legendary at Man Utd after all the unfairness in the game that was done against Arsenal in the game that day.

  10. Whenever I see a headline: Arsenal haven’t lost for so long or have never lost I fear the worst and so it happened once again….

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