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Arsenal v Newcastle: home and away form suggests we could be ok.

By Bulldog Drummond

Sadly no one has worked any magic on the league table during the winter break, and we find ourselves in 10th, four points and five goals behind the club above us, and six points and 10 goals behind the sixth placed club.

But still those who have put their faith in buying more and more players as a way of improving form, (not to mention getting rid of the manager with the second highest win percentage of any long term manager) continue to demand more and more players (and more and more changes of manager) even though it hasn’t worked thus far.

In terms of home form, this is our worst home performance thus far in the season since the days before Chapman.

Home games only

Team P W D L F A GD Pts
6 Manchester United 13 6 5 2 24 12 12 23
7 Sheffield United 13 6 2 5 15 12 3 20
8 Newcastle United 13 5 5 3 12 12 0 20
9 Burnley 13 6 1 6 16 18 -2 19
10 Chelsea 12 5 3 4 16 12 4 18
11 Brighton and Hove 13 4 6 3 17 14 3 18
12 Wolverhampton W 12 4 5 3 18 17 1 17
13 Arsenal 12 4 5 3 18 18 0 17

The only relief comes from the fact that Newcastle’s away form is just as awful

Team P W D L F A GD Pts
8 Arsenal 13 2 8 3 14 16 -2 14
9 Crystal Palace 13 3 5 5 13 19 -6 14
10 Manchester United 12 3 3 6 12 17 -5 12
11 Everton 13 3 3 7 16 24 -8 12
12 Burnley 12 3 3 6 12 20 -8 12
13 West Ham United 12 3 3 6 10 18 -8 12
14 Tottenham Hotspur 12 2 5 5 15 20 -5 11
15 Newcastle United 12 3 2 7 12 24 -12 11

On the basis of this season’s home v away form it looks like we ought to win maybe 2-1.

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Newcastle are undefeated in their last eight games, but that statistic is a little misleading when we see what some of these matches have been…

Date Game Res
Score Competition
04 Jan 2020 Rochdale v Newcastle United D 1-1 FA Cup
11 Jan 2020 Wolverhampton Wanderers v Newcastle United D 1-1 Premier League
14 Jan 2020 Newcastle United v Rochdale W 4-1 FA Cup
18 Jan 2020 Newcastle United v Chelsea W 1-0 Premier League
21 Jan 2020 Everton v Newcastle United D 2-2 Premier League
25 Jan 2020 Newcastle United v Oxford United D 0-0 FA Cup
01 Feb 2020 Newcastle United v Norwich City D 0-0 Premier League
04 Feb 2020 Oxford United v Newcastle United W 2-3 FA Cup

Four of those games were against lower league clubs in the FA Cup, although the one Premier League win was of note – a 1-0 defeat of Chelsea at home.  The FA Cup game against Oxford went to extra time and was a close run thing.

If we take a look at Newcastle’s away form in the league in December and January we get five games with just one win – but that was an unexpected result at Sheffield United.

Date Match Result Score Competition
05 Dec 2019 Sheffield United v Newcastle United W 0-2 Premier League
14 Dec 2019 Burnley v Newcastle United L 1-0 Premier League
26 Dec 2019 Manchester United v Newcastle United L 4-1 Premier League
11 Jan 2020 Wolverhampton Wands v Newcastle United D 1-1 Premier League
21 Jan 2020 Everton v Newcastle United D 2-2 Premier League

Arsenal at home across the same period in the League reads…

05 Dec 2019 Arsenal v Brighton and Hove Albion L 1-2 Premier League
15 Dec 2019 Arsenal v Manchester City L 0-3 Premier League
29 Dec 2019 Arsenal v Chelsea L 1-2 Premier League
01 Jan 2020 Arsenal v Manchester United W 2-0 Premier League
18 Jan 2020 Arsenal v Sheffield United D 1-1 Premier League

On this basis there is very little to pick between the teams.

It is only on the head-to-head lists that we can find some comfort…

Date Game Res
Score Competition
07 Nov 2010 Arsenal v Newcastle United L 0-1 Premier League
05 Feb 2011 Newcastle United v Arsenal D 4-4 Premier League
13 Aug 2011 Newcastle United v Arsenal D 0-0 Premier League
12 Mar 2012 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 2-1 Premier League
29 Dec 2012 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 7-3 Premier League
19 May 2013 Newcastle United v Arsenal W 0-1 Premier League
29 Dec 2013 Newcastle United v Arsenal W 0-1 Premier League
28 Apr 2014 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 3-0 Premier League
13 Dec 2014 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 4-1 Premier League
21 Mar 2015 Newcastle United v Arsenal W 1-2 Premier League
29 Aug 2015 Newcastle United v Arsenal W 0-1 Premier League
02 Jan 2016 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 1-0 Premier League
16 Dec 2017 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 1-0 Premier League
15 Apr 2018 Newcastle United v Arsenal L 2-1 Premier League
15 Sep 2018 Newcastle United v Arsenal W 1-2 Premier League
01 Apr 2019 Arsenal v Newcastle United W 2-0 Premier League
11 Aug 2019 Newcastle United v Arsenal W 0-1 Premier League

The last time we lost was in 2018, and before that it was 2010 – that 2010 defeat was the last home defeat to Newcastle.  To find the one before that you have to go back to 2001.

The recent results here seem to confirm a 2-1 score, with a second choice of 1-0.

More later.

9 comments to Arsenal v Newcastle: home and away form suggests we could be ok.

  • Gord

    OT: Southampton 1 2 Burnley

    Hooper is the PGMO twit for this event. Fouls are 9:11 and cards are 2:2 At 20m, Burnley requires a treatment which results in a substitution 2m later. Sargeant Hooper Schultz sees NOTHING. At 36m, Southampton requires a treatment which also results in a substitution 3m later. Sargent Schultz sees NOTHING.

  • SAHR DEBBIE

    i love Arsenal to wine a cup this year i will always like to arsenal winning, back in the the days of winger 2004 i started supporting Arsenal so i this new manager to have a good time with the team i will always bee a gunner fan.

  • Gord

    OT: Norwich 0 0 LiVARpool!

    The game has just barely started. Fouls are 0:1 with the PGMO twit being Attwell. We all know of a team who is quite likely to receive a yellow card on the first foul. LiVARpool! did not get carded for their first foul today.

  • Gord

    OT: Norwich 0 0 LiVARpool!

    About 1/4 of the way in (or half way through the first half). Fouls are 1:4, and still no cards. A team we all know, could have had 2 or 3 yellows on 4 fouls.

  • Gord

    OT: Norwich 0 0 LiVARpool!

    At 25m, Norwich require a treatment. 1m later, Norwich substitute the player. Sargent Attwell Schultz sees NOTHING. 1 foul to each team since last report (now 2:5), and nary a card in sight.

  • Gord

    OT: Norwich 0 0 LiVARpool!

    Fouls are 4:6, attwell decides to hand out his first yellow. To Norwich.

  • Gord

    OT: Norwich 0 0 LiVARpool!

    Fouls are 7:9, still just the one card to Norwich. If fouls are called, at some point persistent infringement should result in a card. All fouls are cheating, and persistent cheating is worthy of a yellow. If it is rotational fouling, then the captain can be carded for persistent infringement. However, some teams now rotate who is captain, which negates some of the discipline behind carding the captain for rotational fouling.

    15m left, can Norwich find a goal and create a miracle?

    Will attwell give LiVARpool! a penalty?

  • Gord

    OT: Norwich 0 1 LiVARpool!

    Mission accomplished by Agent Attwell. Somehow LiVARpool! scored from open play. Fouls are about equal. Issue a token yellow to LiVARpool! to make the game seem even on discipline.

    What, LiVARpool! get a second yellow? Attwell could be in the doghouse now.

  • Gord

    Congratulations PGMO! You have been working extremely hard to take away the uniqueness of Arsenal’s Invincibles and confer it on another team (and almost give them a perfect season). The entire lot of you should roast in that place which isn’t heaven, munching with all the other crooks that the devil is friends with, for all eternity.