Aston Villa v Arsenal, how did last summer’s spending work out for each club?

10 Replies to “Aston Villa v Arsenal, how did last summer’s spending work out for each club?”

1. Morning Nitram

   The form table over the last six games is not correct.

   TWTD must have stopped compiling the info or just got it wildly wrong.

   Transfer league is much more accurate although the point being made about differences in form over the last six games is relevant

   https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/formtabelle/wettbewerb/GB1

2. Mike T

   Why are you talking to me?

   I’ve got nothing to do with this article.

   I think you best address your comments to the author don’t you?

3. Nitram

   Sort of confused as to how you could respond to me when you claim you won’t/ don’t read my postings.

4. “Thus as ever the point is, spending money is not in any way a guarantee of going up the table. Indeed most of the time it has the opposite effect: the more you spend the further you fall”.

   I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated but spending money, and lots of it, then spending more money and then spending more money, IS (or at least was, but some things have changed a little, but I’ll come to that) a guarantee of success as I have shown many many times.

   Our 3 biggest Nett spenders over the last 15 years have been Man City Chelsea and Man Utd and they have won every title except 2, one being Leicester, which although admirable was a freak and WILL NOT be repeated again in my lifetime, and now Liverpool, who have to their credit kept their Nett spend down to a reasonable level, (largely on the back of 1 sale) but they are still enormous Gross spenders. But credit where credit is due they have traded brilliantly in the transfer market. But neither Liecster City’s success nor Liverpool’s changes the fact that spending big, very very big and more importantly consistently, is what wins you trophies.

   What doesn’t guarantee success is short term splurges. Spurs are the best example of that. They sold 3 players, Modric, Berbatov and Bale at huge profit and every time wasted the money in big splurges. That DOESN’T work.

   And yes, success doesn’t always follow a big season of spending. Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd have all regressed following a big close season spend and progressed after a small close season spend. That is neither here nor their. The secret to their success, though it’s hardly a secret even if some cant quite see it, is to maintain this high Nett spend (averaging £30 to £50 Million Nett per season seems to do the trick) over many seasons. I think it took both Chelsea and Man City 4 plus years of mega spending to lift a title. It doesn’t happen overnight and it may even of happened after one of those low spend seasons, but it was on the back of years of spending.

   Over the last 10 to 15 years at a rough estimate Man City have spent around £50 Million Nett per season, Chelsea and Man Utd around £30 Million.

   And now on to why things have changed a little recently making it even more difficult for the ‘splurgers’ to succeed. In fact their are all sorts of problems for the teams you have mentioned that have spent big and failed more recently.

   1) The sheer quantity of teams spending big.

   Back before the oil money first arrived nobody spent money on the scale they would do, so apart from Man Utd and their self generated Millions they had the run of the show. As Genesis once said, ‘And Then There Were 3’ and those 3, as I said, shared all but 2 titles and won a vast majority of the domestic cups in to the bargain over the last 15 years.

   Obviously, taking this to it’s logical conclusion, if every club in the PL spent enormous amounts of money, 3 mega spenders would actually get relegated. Does that prove spending big money doesn’t work? Of course it doesn’t.

   2) The base from where they start.

   3) Their position in the pecking order to attract the top top players.

   4) The kudos or lack of, as an attraction for the best players.

   5) Being over charged for mediocre players because of a distorted market and or simply because they know they have the money.

   So no, Villa having a season of spending as they did was never going to crack it, and in fact as you showed it had the opposite effect. But, and this is the thing, despite what you say, spending more is exactly what they have to do. And then spend some more and some more and if they do that for 5, 6, 7 years eventually they may just crack it. One things for certain, NOT spending will NEVER get them to the top. They just have to spend it more wisely and for a long time.

   A simple question, Which of the following 2 scenarios is most likely to see Arsenal rise like the Phoenix from the Flames and win the PL and even go on to lift the CL?

   a) Spend an average £10 Million Nett per season for the next 5 years?

   b) Spend an average £50 Million Nett per season for the next 5 years?

   Sorry Bulldog but if you think ‘a’ has more chance than ‘b’ then you haven’t been watching the same Premier league I’ve been watching.

   NB

   I’m not saying we can or should spend that sort of money. As I always say, I am happy with our ‘self sustaining model’ and what we have is what we have, and I support Arsenal 100% down the line on that. But the fact is if we can’t spend that sort of money consistently over the next 5 years, we will NOT win the PL, unless there’s another freak a la Leicester, or we do some amazing business with transfers a la Liverpool it will be the same old faces winning it year after year.

5. Mike T

   Alas it’s impossible to ignore the bad smell in the room.

6. And anyway there’s a big difference between correcting your rather wayward guess at who bulldog is and trawling through one of your tedious posts.

7. Kavanagh again tonight apparently, Mike liked the cut of his jib in the Leicester match obviously.

8. If Eddie plays, he can send him off again. At least Mustafi won’t get kicked in the face, (on the assumption that he won’t be playing)

9. Rest assured he’ll be checking an innocuous tackle by Granit first chance the dodgy tosser gets

10. Spending lots of wonga gets success only if the coach is smart enough to use the purchase correctly. It also requires the PGMOL toallow the team to play the game without being handicapped.

    Arsenal have to cope with cheating by Mike Riley and his crew despite the CAS and various organisations that are supposed to maintain honesty in sport.

    Football is fixed and the FA are complicit.