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  1. Andrew Banks
    14 January 2022

    You read a different Guardian report to me. The one I read contained plenty of praise for Arsenal. Or maybe you selectively quote to prove your fetish about the press.

    Wait, selectively quoting…isnt that what you criticize the press for?

    Change the record.

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    • Tony Attwood
      14 January 2022

      Andrew, your ability to see what is going on in my mind, which you have so often proclaimed on this site in the past, is as faulty as ever. There are two reports on the Guardian website, one reflective on the position of the game within the club’s recent past (from which I quoted) and one an account of the match in standard reporting mode, giving a resume of what happened for anyone who missed the match. But no, I don’t think I criticize the press for selectively quoting – at least not often. More for having a biased viewpoint, and making stuff up, such as who Arsenal are going to buy.
      But perhaps the most interesting part of your comment is the last three words. I wonder on what level of interaction exists the notion that you, as a reader, can simply sit there (I assume you are sitting, although you may not be) and tell the guy who writes quite a few of the articles to do it differently – and that this will have any impact other than making readers think, not for the first time, what a curious chap you are.
      To me, such an approach is rather like the Stone Age tribal leader who, wishing to prove that he obtains his right to rule directly from the gods, seeks to prove it by shouting at the sun, “Do not go down!”
      Of course you could put an argument forward as to why regularly pointing to the mono-thematic approach of football journalists when hardly anyone else does it, is not a good idea, but to reduce your argument to three words seems rather feeble.
      Incidentally all quoting is selective otherwise it is known as copying.

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  2. Jeff Gooner
    14 January 2022

    All of our sending offs have been clear red cards, pure and simple. We must stop this victim mentality.

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    • Tony Attwood
      14 January 2022

      Jeff, over what period of time are you thinking. We’ve had two sending offs in the league this season – or are you going back further in time.

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  3. John L
    14 January 2022

    A recurring factor in our red card record is the blatant predisposition of referees to send Xhaka off. It’s not only the decisions themselves, but the sheer eagerness to show red that stands out.
    It was much the same with David Luiz when he played for us. The slightest hint of a foul anywhere in or around our box would lead to the referee producing the red card as if it was already in his hand prior to the incident. No pause to consider, no reference to VAR, no consultation with other officials.

    Last night, the Liverpool player was not through on goal. He did not have the ball in his possession or under control, so it was not a clear goal scoring opportunity. Xhaka’s action was badly timed, but it was hardly reckless or likely to endanger the opponent, so why the red card?
    Liverpool player reaction was blatant play-acting.

    Remember the numerous red card offences against us which were ignored by the referees, Everton player stamp on Tomi’s face, Palace player thigh-high scything of Saka from behind, Ronaldo etc.etc.

    No wonder we havehad the most red cards against us, we operate under different rules!

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  4. Saka
    14 January 2022

    What Jeff said,
    All of our sending offs have been clear red cards, pure and simple. We must stop this victim mentality.

    Seriously you lot think the whole world is against Arsenal.

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    • Tony Attwood
      14 January 2022

      No Saka we don’t think that at all, but we like having fun. What we do is this…

      We present loads of statistical information about all sorts of things, such as the number of referees we get, how many Arsenal games each refs gets, how many yellow cards each ref gives out, and then start analysing the data, and then draw conclusions.

      Now because a lot of our readers are kind enough to read a lot of what is on the site, we don’t keep on putting “see this article” notes up, because there is a search button, and of course when people ask for the source, we tell them if the request is sensible.

      But what we do love are people then who clearly have not been bothered to take a look at our evidence, or engage in the debate with new statistics, but who then make a statement in a few lines which they think knocks all our evidence over.

      Of course it doesn’t, because these people are just interested in stating their own view, not looking at the evidence.
      But you would not believe how much it makes us laugh – because no matter how often we make the point,
      Happens every day too, so by and large life is fun.

      Thank you for joining in.

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  5. Nitram
    14 January 2022

    Jeff Gooner

    “All of our sending offs have been clear red cards, pure and simple. We must stop this victim mentality”.

    So EVERY single Red card we get is a CLEAR Red card is it ? EVERY ONE ? No doubt ? No subjectivity ? The referees haven’t got one of them wrong ? Not a single one ?

    Really ?

    Sorry I don’t agree, in fact:

    “All of our sending offs are NEVER red cards, pure and simple. We must keep banging the drum. The referees get every decision WRONG. They are ALL CLEARLY not red cards.

    See Jeff, we can all do that, but it’s b******s isn’t it.

    Nobody here has ever suggested we should never have a red card.

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  6. markyb
    14 January 2022

    Jeff Gooner
    14 January 2022 at 8:59 AM

    All of our sending offs have been clear red cards, pure and simple. We must stop this victim mentality.

    Jeff Not a Gooner in a million years Troll much

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  7. Supersingh
    14 January 2022

    Level playing field is in the mind of the referees. Influenced by many factors.

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  8. Va Cong
    14 January 2022

    Too all the idiots saying it was a clear reds for arsenal there has to be consistency. Like the new woke generation there has to be equality for everyone except for white people. Same tackle us a Red card tackle for arsenal yellow card for Manchester City after he’s 7th foul no card for man united he’s not that type of player etc.

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  9. seismic
    16 January 2022

    Regarding Jonathan Liew – it’s probably a typo. “W” is right next to the “S” on a QWERTY keyboard

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