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PNE v Arsenal: the teams. Will there be fighting? and proof that Giroud is better than Messi

By Bulldog Drummond.

The fighting

Just on a month ago Preston North End were forced to fine two of their “players” (Jermaine Beckford and Eoin Doyle) for fighting each other on the pitch during a match against Sheffield Wednesday.   Both players were sent off, obviously, and the fines levied on the players were promised as refunds to Preston’s away fans for the cost of entry to the game.   Preston then made much of the fact that they were not going to appeal the red cards, and indeed it would have been rather difficult to do so given the action of the two players.

“We accept the punishment given to us by the club and the FA and fully support the club’s decision to refund the ticket costs to the supporters. We have apologised to the manager, the staff and our team-mates and hope that the supporters accept our total remorse for the incident.

“It is our intention to now put this behind us and to give our all for the benefit of Preston North End going forward.”

I wonder if they actually sat down and wrote that!

The injuries and the resting

Moving on to the non-fighting side of the game, Arsenal’s injury list has grown but contrary to the hysteria in the media we are nowhere near top of the pile (although you can expect many bloggettas and journalists to assert we are…)

# TEAM TOTAL INJURIES
1 Watford 11
1 Sunderland 11
3 Crystal Palace 10
4 Everton 8
4 Hull City 8
5 Liverpool 8
7 Arsenal 7
7 Middlesbrough 7
9 Southampton 6
9 West Ham United 6

The injured are listed on physioroom.com as

Player Injury Return date Comments
M Ozil Illness January 7, 2017 Major Doubt
K Gibbs Knee Injury January 14, 2017 Slight Doubt
T Walcott Calf Strain January 14, 2017 Slight Doubt
M Debuchy Hamstring Injury January 14, 2017
P Mertesacker Knee Injury January 31, 2017
F Coquelin Hamstring Injury January 31, 2017
 Santi Cazorla Recovery from op  ?

I would suggest that Mesut misses this game and comes back for the next one, and that Walcott and Gibbs will also be available for that game also.

In addition to the injuries we have Petr Cech, Laurent Koscielny and Alexis Sanchez being told to go on holiday.  On Alexis Mr Wenger said, “I don’t look too much how people talk, I look how much they want to win. What is surprising there? You want to see that kind of passion. You don’t come down from 3-0 down from 70 minutes without that passion. We wanted to win the game and we didn’t and we’re all frustrated. Mentally and physically Sánchez is a bit jaded. You could see that he is tired. He can have sometimes emotional reactions but face to face he is always very respectful.”

Mr Wenger added, “We know that after a congested Christmas period that the third round is always a tricky game,” he said.   That is why I believe it is a mental challenge for the Premier League teams to prepare well and not have a bad surprise – especially when you go to a Championship team, it is always difficult.”

Results and level of agricultural activity in the style of play

Preston have won just one of their last 15 FA Cup games against Premier League and 1st Division sides, that being the defeat of Derby in January 2008.   We’ve lost one of the last 36 – a defeat to Blackburn in 2013.

Looking at a possible team my biggest doubt is Lucas Pérez who has an ankle injury from the Bournemouth game.    But if he can play I’d go with

Ospina

Jenkinson Gabriel Holding Monreal

Ramsey Xhaka

Pérez  Iwobi  The Ox

Giroud

Of course it is a guess as to when Jenkinson might come back, and I don’t think there is any reason why Bellerin should not play, except to give Jenkinson another chance.  Likewise Mustafi could play, and indeed Mustafi and Gabriel could play together, but Holding wants games, and Gabriel will become back up again once Koscielny recovers.

So with that sort of line up we might have building sandcastles a beached array of

Welbeck, Bellerín, Mustafi, Maitland-Niles, Reine-Adelaide, Martinez, Akpom.

And that, mes amis, is that.

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77 comments to PNE v Arsenal: the teams. Will there be fighting? and proof that Giroud is better than Messi

  • So maybe we should do a trade with Barca , swop Giroud for Messi and they give us a few mill as well

  • Flares

    Never thought I’d actually see the term ‘anti-Giroudian’ in print.

    Outstanding.

  • Samuel Akinsola Adebosin

    Yes, after my been to arsenal.com a moment ago, I found out that one of my starter – Welbeck, and the two on my bench – Ben-Sheaf & Mavididi ,will not be starting today according to Le Prof, and will also not be available on my bench as well for their having played for our Under 23 team against Derby County last night.

    Therefore, being an Arsenal game specialist whom I claim to be and the consequence of this unknown issues which has now surfaced to me is, I have to review my last starts and bench for this game that I’ve posted in my last comment posting during the last article posting that threaded before this one that is now threading.

    My review starts and bench are as below:

    Starts:
    Ospina
    Bellerin Holding Mustafi Monreal
    Xhaka Ramsey
    Adelaide Iwobi Chamberlain
    Giroud.

    Bench:
    Martinez Paulista Bielik Marc-Bola Maitland-Niles Welbeck Chris-Willock.

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    Akpom played the opening 45 minutes for the U23s yesterday afternoon, without scoring, his first competative outing since our 4-0 win against a Forest in the EFL Cup. He has been suffering from a stress fracture in his back.

    We beat Derby by 2-1 with Eddie Nketiah on for Chuba in the second half getting the winner in the 70th minute.

  • Leon

    Celebrationwise Giroud might have the edge on Messi, and he’s obviously far better looking.

  • In short form the premiership table this year used to stop on the fourth team but now it goes up to the sixth why the change/??!!Cech ,i also think needs some good rest like 5 matches ,that Bournemouth first goal and penalty Alumunia the calamity could have saved them?? Oooh no looks like i was dreaming we haven’t played Bournemouth yet or have we???

  • Tony Attwood

    Maitland Niles at full back. Now we know who is going to be the break through player of the year following Bellerin, Iwobi and Coquelin

  • Gord

    I gather Giroud has been named Captain for the match. Apparently many (more than 3?) “Arsenal fans” have melted down the twit thing over this.

    Disappointing.

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Nice to see Welbeck and Emi Martinez on the beach!

    COYG!

  • Josif

    Arsenal haven’t lost an away match in FA Cup since 2011-12 (Sunderland 2:0).

    COYG!

  • Strange it never seems like a shock now when it happens !

  • para

    PNE playing like a PL team for now. Arsenal a little to casual atm.

  • Why are we looking so casual it’s like a training match

  • Menace

    It’s called charity. Giving to those less fortunate than ourselves.

  • Gord

    Hmmmm. No commentary from LiveScore, minimal commentary from Arsenal.com. Might as well just read about the game afterwards.

    COYG!

  • You couldn’t write it FFS

  • Menace

    Oh dear some diddums is upset. The man from the north in black is obvious by his selective blindness. Foul on Ooooospina but no card for the nice boy whose attempted elbow on the face of our GK shows total disdain. There is now a cut to Gabriels face, must have nicked himself shaving.

  • para

    Not deliberate he says, eyes on the ball. Don’t we have 260% vision?

  • Can’t believe I’m going to say it but……….that’s what the Cup is all about !

  • Menace even you can’t knock PNE they played and deserved there lead your nothing but an incredible bad sport . Such a terrible trait on par with meanness

  • MickHazel

    The most inept display by an Arsenal team I can remember both in terms of quality and effort. The Ox wants more game time? Well Alex watch a video of your 1st half performance and you will see why you are not getting more game time.
    Absolute rubbish, come on Preston.

  • OlegYch

    iwobi in center is a train wreck, again
    jeff coming on instead?

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    We’re too slow on the ball again and being bullied (aided be the man in black who is ignoring the pushes etc). We are also having our usual luck with ricochets etc which are all going to Preston players.

    Still we are only one goal behind and hopefully Arsenal will have had a real go at them at half time.

    COYG

  • para

    Arsenal just does not try enough things spontaneously. This would make them more formidable.

    Show some passion lads, or are you pacing yourselves?

    No doubt they will in 2nd half though, at least i hope they do.

  • Menace

    Soot – your too dumb to understand the difference between PNE with a 12th man & the fact that some of them are dirty. It’s a no lose situation for PNE

    oooops I knew it was a silent h

  • Leon

    There’s not much any of the subs can do to rescue this (Danny excepted), the best players are out on the field, it’s up to them now.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Rambo…Ye beauty…

  • Leon

    And here they come!

  • OlegYch

    heh iwobi with assist

  • Menace

    Even Ox sees the cheating diving bastards protected by 12th man

  • So so so much better , amazing what a bollicking can do

  • Menace do you by any chance suffer with little man syndrome . Bet your 5ft max

  • para

    Come on Ramsey, you played for that 🙂

  • Menace

    Absolute disgrace 12th man ignoring a red card for physical violence.

  • Leon

    Ha! The ref told a PNE player to fuck off

  • Vinnie Losada

    Anyone else notice that the player touched the ball after the ref blew his whistle for the free kick around 56:25 as though he was moving it slightly, but was allowed to take it again as though nothing happened! I think Giroud even appealed slightly for it.

  • Gord

    How to go Ramsey!

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    The linesman is blind….Gave offside against Preston when it was clearly onside. Then he gives throw-ins against ARSENAL when it isn’t……

  • Menace

    A yellow for a red tackle where the commentator says he got ‘part of the ball’. 12th man still being disgraceful.

    Shoot you still dreaming of what you can’t do? You need Monica Lewinski 😉

  • ARSENAL 13

    What the eff….Why stop a game to argue with the manager??????…

  • Al

    That, ladies and gents, is what’s wrong with English football; a manager berating the ref for showing his players yellow cards. When one or two of same players should have seen red!

  • para

    Well done Gabriel

  • Menace

    para – that was soft. Gabriel should have picked him up by the gonads.

  • ARSENAL 13

    Pearson should’ve seen a red by now…

  • Al

    This Pearson should have got a red a loooong time ago!

  • Al

    Who the fcuk is this ref?!

  • ARSENAL 13

    The person who kept barging in to people all game is taking offence when some one gives him back….Coward. bully.

  • Al_The_Gunner

    ref is fucked

  • Leon

    Pearson is treading a fine line

  • Al

    I’ll take a draw and a fit 11 players back to the Ems, the Preston tackling is a little unsettling..

  • Leon

    Here comes Danny

  • ARSENAL 13

    Danny buoy is back

  • ARSENAL 13

    Is there a replay????…. I hope we finish them here…No extra games plays please…

  • Gord

    Come on Gunners, get that winning goal. Leave the fixture congestion for other top teams.

    Ref: Robert Madley

    COYG!

  • Gord

    Ref: Robert Madley

    http://www.transfermarkt.com/robert-madley/profil/schiedsrichter/3996

    He is PGMO crap. He gives yellows, hardly any second yellows or reds. A smattering of penalties.

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Giroooooooo yyyyyueeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh….

    Ccooommmee ooooooonnnnn

  • Menace

    Who is this Giroud?

  • Al

    Yessss!!!!

  • ARSENAL 13

    That effing Pearson dint deserve an extra payday.

  • Al

    Gord
    Thanks. He’s absolute suite..

  • Gord

    How to go Captain OG!

    COYG!

  • ARSENAL 13

    Ooooooo Danny

  • Before the biased ref Blamers start . Well done PNE you gave us a scare you played very well all credit to you and your fans . The result is what we expected but never a given but my God they made us sweat .

  • para

    Well done lads.

  • Gord

    Fewer anti-Arsenal fans would be nice.

    COYG!

  • Leon

    Our boy looked sharp for someone who’s missed most of two seasons

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    Phew, well done Arsenal. Never going to be easy but in the end our second half performance deserved the win.

  • para

    Shoot
    Looking back, i see that Arsenal, if it was a person would be the humblest person in the world.

    They let PNE play, mostly because our additions needed some valid game time and not have it too easy, but also not to demoralise a team.

    Arsenal does this a lot now a days.

    Thats my story and i’m sticking to it. 🙂

  • Al

    Suite=shite

    Well done lads. Ref was dreadful.

  • WalterBroeckx

    match report is on line

  • Al = Fuck off brain dead

  • AL apologies thought you meant me

  • WalterBroeckx

    Now please gentleman, aren’t we all happy that Arsenal won?

  • At one point I thought we just couldn’t compete with PNE financially, mental strength hot us through… lol

  • Al

    Shoot
    No offence taken.