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Ref Review: Arsenal – Watford

Note: There are clips included in the report for every wrong decision and every major decision in red bold text

ARSENAL vs. WATFORD

COMPETITION: English Premier League

MATCH NO. 23

DATE: 31th January 2017

VENUE: Emirates Stadium (London, England)

MATCH OFFICIALS:

REFEREE: Andre Marriner
1st LINESMAN: Scott Ledger
2nd LINESMAN: Sian Massey
4th OFFICIAL: Kevin Friend

First Half

Fouls, Advantages, Cards, and Penalties

Time Foul by Foul For Description & Decision Points
02:29 Etienne Capoue (Watford) Francis Coquelin (Arsenal) Capoue held back Coquelin with his arm from behind. This should have been a foul for Arsenal but was not given.

 

01. Capoue Foul

 

NO FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)
03:03 Francis Coquelin (Arsenal) Miguel Britos (Watford) Slight trip by Coquelin on Britos.

CORRECT FOUL FOR WATFORD.

1 (FOUL)
04:36 Etienne Capoue (Watford) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Capoue pulled back Sanchez as maintained possession.

CORRECT ADVANTAGE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL.

1 (ADVANTAGE)
04:56 Shkodran Mustafi (Arsenal) Etienne Capoue (Watford) Slight trip by Mustafi on Capoue from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR WATFORD.

1 (FOUL)
09:05 Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) M’Baye Niang (Watford) No live footage or replay shown. Assumed correct. Only footage shows referee pointing something out and Arsenal players surprised.

 

02. Foul that led to free kick goal

02. Foul that led to free kick goal 002

 

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
10:39 Tom Cleverley (Watford) Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal) Cleverley brought down Ramsey from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
11:16 Daryl Janmaat (Watford) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Janmaat tripped Monreal from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
14:57 Younes Kaboul (Watford) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Kaboul tripped down Sanchez.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
18:43 Etienne Capoue (Watford) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Capoue committed an obstruction foul on Monreal as Arsenal maintained possession.

CORRECT ADVANTAGE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL.

1 (ADVANTAGE)
18:58 Miguel Britos (Watford) Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Britos held and pulled back Ozil from dribbling.

 

Britos deliberately held and pulled the shirt of Ozil for a long time and should have been booked but no card was given.

 

03. Britos Yellow

 

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL

NO YELLOW CARD AGAINST BRITOS.

1 (FOUL)

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

20:45 Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) M’Baye Niang (Watford) Gabriel went in late and brought down Niang with a reckless tackle.

CORRECT FOUL FOR WATFORD.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST GABRIEL.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

23:03 Valon Behrami (Watford) Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Ozil was brought down from behind by Behrami.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
23:54 Younes Kaboul (Watford) Olivier Giroud (Arsenal) Kaboul was holding Giroud, who was in a shielding position. This should have been a foul for Arsenal but was not given.

 

06. Kaboul Foul

 

NO FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)

 

24:11 Craig Cathcart (Watford) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Monreal made a run in to the box with Cathcart near him.

 

This wasn’t a penalty, but as the defender made close bodily contact with Monreal it can’t be classified as a dive so no yellow card should have been given. So not purely a dive but as there was no foul contact it was no foul also, a negative sign should have been given and play continue.

 

07. Monreal Non-Penalty

07. Monreal Non-Penalty002

 

CORRECT NON-PENALTY FOR WATFORD.

WRONG YELLOW CARD AGAINST MONREAL.

3 (NON-PENALTY)

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

26:14 Miguel Britos (Watford) Olivier Giroud (Arsenal) Giroud was being held by Britos from behind. This should have been a foul for Arsenal but was not given.

 

08. Britos foul Giroud

 

NO FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)
28:06 Alex Oxlade Chamberlain (Arsenal) Valon Behrami (Watford) Chamberlain pushed Behrami from the side.

CORRECT FOUL FOR WATFORD.

1 (FOUL)
29:41 Valon Behrami (Watford) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Behrami tripped down Sanchez from front.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)

 

30:15 Laurent Koscienly (Arsenal) Heurelho Gomes (Watford) Koscienly used his arm to prevent Gomes from catching the ball.

CORRECT FOUL FOR WATFORD.

1 (FOUL)
32:34 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) M’Baye Niang (Watford) Ozil tripped down Niang from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR WATFORD.

1 (FOUL)
42:49 Daryl Janmaat (Watford) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Janmaat tripped Monreal as Arsenal maintained possession.

CORRECT ADVANTAGE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL.

1 (ADVANTAGE)
42:53 Tom Cleverley (Watford) Alex Iwobi (Arsenal) Cleverley tripped Iwobi as Arsenal maintained possession.

CORRECT ADVANTAGE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL.

1 (ADVANTAGE)
44:57 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Miguel Britos (Watford) Ozil tripped Britos from the front.

CORRECT FOUL FOR WATFORD.

1 (FOUL)
 
Number of Correct Fouls for Arsenal – 5

Number of Correct Fouls for Watford – 8

Total Number of Correct Fouls –  13 [13 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Arsenal – 3

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Fouls – 3 [3 points]

 

Number of Correct Advantages for Arsenal – 4

Number of Correct Advantages for Watford – 0

Total Number of Correct Advantages – 4 [4 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Advantages against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Advantages against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Advantages – 0

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Arsenal – 0

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Watford – 1

Total Number of Correct Yellow Cards – 1 [2 points]

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Arsenal – 2

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards – 2 [4 points]

 

Number of Correct Penalties for Arsenal – 0

Number of Correct Penalties for Watford – 1

Total Number of Correct Penalties – 1 [3 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Penalties against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Penalties against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Penalties – 0

Offsides

Time Player Offside Defending Player Description & Decision Points
08:59 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Younes Kaboul (Watford) Ozil was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Scott Ledger made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR WATFORD.

1 (OFFSIDE)
15:24 Olivier Giroud (Arsenal) Younes Kaboul (Watford) No replay or correct angle shown. Assumed correct. Assistant Referee Scott Ledger made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR WATFORD.

1 (OFFSIDE)
28:58 Troy Deeney (Watford) Shkodran Mustafi (Arsenal) Deeney was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Sian Massey made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR ARSENAL.

1 (OFFSIDE)
36:25 Troy Deeney (Watford) Shkodran Mustafi (Arsenal) Deeney was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Sian Massey made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR ARSENAL.

1 (OFFSIDE)
43:33 Olivier Giroud (Arsenal) Craig Cathcart (Watford) Giroud was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Scott Ledger made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR WATFORD.

1 (OFFSIDE)
Number of Correct Offsides for Arsenal – 2

Number of Correct Offsides for Watford – 3

Total Number of Correct Offsides – 5 [5 points]

Number of Incorrect Offsides against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Offsides against Watford –  0

Total Number of Incorrect Offsides – 0

Goals

Time Goal Scorer Description & Decision Points
09:49 Younes Kaboul (Watford) There is no live footage or replay shown of the foul that led to this free kick. Assumed correct. Only footage shows referee pointing something out and Arsenal players surprised.

 

02. Foul that led to free kick goal

02. Foul that led to free kick goal 002

 

CORRECT GOAL FOR WATFORD.

3 (GOAL)
12:43 Troy Deeney (Watford) Clean goal.

CORRECT GOAL FOR WATFORD.

3 (GOAL)
Number of Correct Goals for Arsenal – 0

Number of Correct Goals for Watford – 2

Total Number of Correct Goals – 2 [6 points]

Number of Incorrect Goals against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Goals against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Goals – 0

Goal Kicks, Corners, and Throw-ins

Time Type Last Touch OFF Description & Decision

First Half Referee Report

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Arsenal – 5+4+2 = 11

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Watford – 8+1+1+3+2 = 15

Total Number of Correct Decisions = 11 + 15 = 26

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Arsenal – 5+4+2 = 11

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Watford – 8+2+3+3+6 = 22

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) = 11 + 22 = 33

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Arsenal – 3+2 = 5

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions = 5 + 0 = 5

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Arsenal – 3+4 = 7

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) = 7 + 0 = 7

 

 

 

First Half Correct Decision Percentage = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 26/(26+5) = 83.8%

 

 

First Half Correct Decision Percentage (WEIGHTED) = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 33/(33+7) = 82.5%

 

Second Half

Fouls, Advantages, Cards, and Penalties

Time Foul by Foul For Description & Decision Points
55:23 Tom Cleverley (Watford) Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Cleverley made a late trip on Ozil from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
56:50 Sebastian Prodl (Watford) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Prodl pushed the ball away and then even retracted his leg, there was some contact but only after the ball had been played by the defender.

 

13. Sanchez Non-Penalty

13. Sanchez Non-Penalty002

 

CORRECT NON-PENALTY FOR WATFORD.

3 (NON-PENALTY)
59:51 Troy Deeney (Watford) Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Ozil was pulled back from behind, as Arsenal moved forward.

CORRECT ADVANTAGE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL.

1 (ADVANTAGE)
64:50 Miguel Britos (Watford) Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Britos pushed Walcott from behind. This should have been a foul for Arsenal but was not given.

 

14. Britos foul Theo

 

NO FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)
65:10 Sebastian Prodl (Watford) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Prodl made a slow but reckless challenge from behind on Sanchez.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST PRODL.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

68:01 Laurent Koscienly (Arsenal) Tom Cleverley (Watford) Koscienly made a shoulder to shoulder challenge with Cleverley. This should not have been a foul but was given.

 

16. Koscienly foul

 

WRONG FOUL AGAINST ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)
69:37 Daryl Janmaat (Watford) Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Janmaat pulled down Ozil from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
71:31 Etienne Capoue (Watford) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Capoue tripped down Sanchez from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)

 

74:40 Isaac Success (Watford) Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) Success pulled Gabriel from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
79:17 Daryl Janmaat (Watford) Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Janmaat made a late and reckless challenge on Ozil from the side.

 

This should have been a yellow card against Janmaat but was not given.

 

18. Janmaat Yellow

 

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

NO YELLOW CARD AGAINST JANMAAT.

1 (FOUL)

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

79:57 Sebastian Prodl (Watford) Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) Prodl brought down Paulista with a late standing tackle.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
81:52 Laurent Koscienly (Arsenal)   No movement towards the ball, the arm is in a position in front of the body, ball is played from close by and kicked against the arm in front of the body and close to the body, not a deliberate handball so no foul.

 

19. Koscienly foul

 

WRONG FOUL AGAINST ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)
85:22 Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Sanchez was booked for dissent, no replays or footage shown. Assumed correct.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST SANCHEZ.

2 (YELLOW CARD)
87:03 Stefano Okaka (Watford) Shkodran Mustafi (Arsenal) Okaka made a late and reckless foul from behind on Mustafi.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST OKAKA.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

91:10 Tom Cleverley (Watford) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Cleverley committed a reckless challenge against Monreal.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST CLEVERLEY.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

   
Number of Correct Fouls for Arsenal – 9

Number of Correct Fouls for Watford – 0

Total Number of Correct Fouls – 9 [9 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Arsenal – 3

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Fouls – 3 [3 points]

 

Number of Correct Advantages for Arsenal – 1

Number of Correct Advantages for Watford – 0

Total Number of Correct Advantages – 1 [1 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Advantages against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Advantages against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Advantages – 0

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Arsenal – 3

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Watford – 1

Total Number of Correct Yellow Cards – 4 [8 points]

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Arsenal – 1

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards – 1 [2 points]

 

Number of Correct Penalties for Arsenal – 0

Number of Correct Penalties for Watford – 1

Total Number of Correct Penalties – [ points]

 

Number of Incorrect Penalties against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Penalties against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Penalties – 0

Offsides

Time Player Offside Defending Player Description & Decision Points

Goals

Time Goal Scorer Description & Decision Points
57:09 Alex Iwobi (Arsenal) In the build up to the goal, it looked like Sanchez didn’t kept the ball in play. So credit to the Assistant Referee Sian Massey for not stopping play for goal kick, as the ball was successfully kept in play.

CORRECT GOAL FOR ARSENAL.

3 (GOAL)
Number of Correct Goals for Arsenal – 1

Number of Correct Goals for Watford – 0

Total Number of Correct Goals – 1 [3 points]

Number of Incorrect Goals against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Goals against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Goals – 0

Goal Kicks, Corners, and Throw-ins

Time Type Last Touch OFF Description & Decision

Second Half Referee Report

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Arsenal – 9+1+3+1 = 14

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Watford – 1+1 = 2

Total Number of Correct Decisions = 14 + 2 = 16

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Arsenal – 9+1+6+3 = 19

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Watford – 2+3 = 5

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) = 19 + 5 = 24

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Arsenal – 3+1 = 4

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions = 4 + 0 = 4

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Arsenal – 3+2 = 5

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Watford – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) = 5 + 0 = 5

 

 

 

Second Half Correct Decision Percentage = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 16/(16+4) = 80.0%

 

 

Second Half Correct Decision Percentage (WEIGHTED) = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 24/(24+5) = 82.7%

 

Full Time (1st Half + 2nd Half) Referee Report

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Arsenal – 11+14 = 25

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Watford – 15+2 = 17

Total Number of Correct Decisions = 25 + 17 = 42

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Arsenal – 11+19 = 30

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Watford – 22+5 = 27

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) = 30 + 27 = 57

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Arsenal – 5+4 = 9

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Watford – 0+0 = 0

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions = 9 + 0 = 9

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Arsenal – 7+5 = 12

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Watford – 0+0 = 0

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) = 12 + 0 = 12

 

 

 

Full Match Correct Decision Percentage = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 42/(42+9) = 82.3%

 

 

Full Match Correct Decision Percentage (WEIGHTED) = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 57/(57+12) = 82.6%

 

APPENDIX

Key Decisions in the Match Points
Advantage 1
Foul 1
Incorrect Corner 1
Incorrect Goal Kick 1
Incorrect Throw-in 1
Other (Ref Positioning, Injuries, Time Wasting, etc.) 1
Offside 1
Yellow Card 2
Red Card 3
Goal 3
Penalty 3

 

NOTE: FOR ANY WRONG DECISION MADE THERE WILL BE NEGATIVE POINTS AWARDED FOR THAT SPECIFIC KIND OF EVENT.

NOTE: ANY INCORRECT OR WRONG DECISION/NON-DECISION WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED WITH A RED COLOUR.

NOTE: ANY DECISION THAT INVOLVES DOUBT IS HIGHLIGHTED AS BLUE IN COLOR.

NOTE: The word ‘FOR’ is used to show IN FAVOR OF.

NOTE: All the Laws Of The Game used are referenced directly from the following link. “LAWS OF THE GAME 2016-2017”

http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/60/Laws%20of%20the%20Game_16-17_Digital_Eng.pdf

 

Andre Marriner was the ref of this match.

He started with an error when Coquelin was fouled but no foul was given. When Coquelin then made almost the same foul it was given. That looked to be a pattern in this match.

When we look at the first goal we only have half replays. Nobody really claimed a foul but Marriner gave one. We don’t see any foul in the clips but as the TV companies was showing something else (spectators, managers zipping their coats, replays….) we can’t see if before anything had happened. But in the images we have we see no foul, even hardly any contact. So it can be seen as a phantom foul. A foul invented by the ref. From the foul followed the first Watford goal. But as our rules say that we only overrule the ref when we have clear evidence we will give the foul and the goal as correct. It is noted in blue as a highly doubtful decision.

Marriner looked determined to not give a yellow card for shirt holding. Britos was trying to swap shirts with Özil after some 18 minutes but the card remained in the pocket. Shirt pulling for a longer period should be yellow carded. But holding players and pulling shirts was allowed by Watford players. Kaboul and Britos again doing it in the first half without a foul being called.

Monreal went down in the penalty area under some contact from Cathcart. However no foul contact but the ref gave a free kick against Monreal and a yellow card. Refs shouldn’t give yellow cards when there is some contact when a player goes down. Just do the negative signal to indicate that there was no foul contact and let the play continue.

As we had to give the foul and goal as correct the score in the first half was: 83.8% and 82.5% (Weighted) Very good.

In the second half we had a penalty shout when Prodl went in on Alexis. But the images show that Prodl first played the ball and then even retracted his foot to avoid contact with Alexis so correct non-decision from the ref.

Britos then again pulling an Arsenal player but again no foul given by the ref. But when Koscielny made a shoulder charge against the shoulder of Cleverly a foul was callled.  Janmaat made a reckless challenge on Özil like Gabriel had done in the first half and getting not a yellow card that Gabriel did get in the first half. And a bit later Koscielny got the ball against his hand from a short distance and his arm was close to his body and in front of his body but still the referee gave a handball against Arsenal.

The goals by the way were all correct apart from the doubtful first Watford goal.

At the end of the second half the score was:  80.0% and 82.7% (Weighted) Good again

Over the whole 90 minutes the score was: 82.3% and 82.6% (Weighted) Very good.

No wrong major decisions. 2 correct non-penalties.

The sting was in the bias departement. 9 wrong decisions in total and that is not that much when we compare with other matches but all 9 of them went against Arsenal. So it was more a case of the smaller fouls being called the wrong way. And constently against Arsenal.

35 comments to Ref Review: Arsenal – Watford

  • Tommo

    Wow! Some serious work has gone in to this. Must have took all the 2 weeks to compose since the game finished. Struggling to remember what happened so can’t really correlate the article. Sounds like the ref had it in for us though. Wouldn’t such time be better spent analysing the performances of the arsenal players? A lot of articles this week just on refs. Was promised an analysis of the Bayern game which has yet to appear. Will it just be on the ref? And will we have to wait 2 weeks? Think such analysis needs to be made while the game is still fresh in the mind. Just my take on things.

  • Samuel Akinsola Adebosin

    The unpredictable game that is the FA Cup is at it today again with some Davids killing some Goliaths and one Goliath escaped being killed by a David as Millwall have knockout Leicester. And Burnley had earlier fell to Lincoln while Man City escaped from getting knockout by Huddersfield. Wow! Let see what will happen to Chelsea at Wolves.

  • Josif

    @Tommo

    How about some respect for the most competent analysis of the referees’ performances on the internet?

    If you had read the article after the game, you would have known the players weren’t praised for their performance.

  • WalterBroeckx

    Yep Tommo we have nothing else to do in our lives. sigh.
    Sorry about the fact we do all have work to do get some money on our bank account…

  • It’s allways the ref…

  • Gord

    Yes, that is the point of a referee review, the ref.

    Secondary considerations are the two assistant referees on the lines.

    Tertiary consideration is the fourth official.

  • Pat

    Tommy, your arrogance is astounding. But I suppose you just came on here to get a reaction. Pathetic! Find something more useful to do.

  • Pat

    Above comment should be addressed to Tommo.

  • bjtgooner

    Another good analysis – thanks guys.

    Marriner showed the usual PGMO bias – looks like all Bandits in Black have to do so – or else emigrate!

  • Tommo

    Hey, not knocking. Doing a grand job. I just think the limited time the site writers have could be better spent on analysing the arsenal players rather than the referee? This is an arsenal site after all.

    I haven’t seen any analysis on the players from the Bayern game? The article after the game basically said we didn’t make any fouls in the 2nd half, which was our undoing. Arseblog usually does a player rating the day after.

    A similar write up in the same fashion as this article, but on the arsenal team rather than the ref would be a good read. Clearly a lot of time and thought has gone in to this. However, on watching the game back, criticising or praising a player’s decision making during a part of play is better for discussion. Where the ref has messed up (like 2 balls on the pitch), then by all means highlight.

    Not criticising. A lot of work goes on here. That’s just my take on things.

  • Josif

    I will go to the school again.

    It seems to me that I can’t read well.

    I mean, Klis and Tommo have seen things I haven’t in this review. There is a clear sentence that says there was no major mistakes from the ref (which translates as: “Yes, he was biased with minor things but he didn’t cost us points”) but two brilliant readers Klis and Tommo have deducted that the point of the review was that the ref had screwed us up.

  • OlegYch

    can you guys expand a bit on why Monreal episode was not a penalty?

  • Tommo – we tend not to do the same as other people do – that is why it is called Untold. The exception is when we feel that everyone else’s analysis has missed a fundamental point and so we need to approach from another point of view.

  • Samuel Akinsola Adebosin

    I think Wolves should have been given a penalty in the 1st half after their player was pushed down by a Chelsea player in the box. I couldn’t continue watching the 2nd half of the match because they took light and I don’t want to put on my gen to save the fuel in it for our Sutton vs Arsenal match tomorrow. But I monitored the 2nd half of the Wolves vs Chelsea game on BBC Football live App on my mobile. But I don’t know how well both teams played in the 2nd half. But Chelsea won the match 0-2 at fulltime.

    What I saw in the Wolves.game in the 1st half was they lacked headers to head the ball to goal in the Chelsea box as most of their enterprising crossings went astray. Had it been they have players who have good spring to lift high very well and attack the ball they might have scored. And Chelsea will be forced out to play to look for the equaliser instead of defending and counter attacking Wolves as they were doing. It would have been the other way round as Wolves will be doing most of the defending after scoring and counter attacking Chelsea who will be forced to be coming out to do most of the attacking looking to equalize.

    And I must say Moses is a very good mid or wing back attacking player for Chelsea because he takes on the opposition player as he runs and beat him dribbling past him before attempting to score or pass the ball to his mate to try to score. Can our Bellerin be playing like this? I think against Liverpool at Anfield and Bayern Munich in the return leg at the Ems, he has to improve on his game in these big games. He should not just limit himself to passing the ball back or sideways when facing an opponent player but he should try to take him on and beat him or them by dribbling past him or them to attempt to score or pass to his mate accurately to try to score.

  • Gord

    It seems a player in a lower division in Spain, decided to assault an assistant referee during a match.

    40 games for the assault
    5 games for another violent conduct (in that game?)
    2 games for ignoring the official when being talked to

    and his team was docked 1 point.

    http://www.marca.com/en/football/spanish-football/2017/02/17/58a72c52468aebbe078b4666.html

    Apparently this sort of ban has been handed out before.

  • Samuel Akinsola Adebosin

    I think Tmmo has said something that annoyed the site hierarchies and some Untolders hence he’s being blastered. I went back to his comment and read it again. But is he trying to say the UA should not be totally concentrating on referees performance reviews alone but be doing reviews on the performances of the Gunners in their last games as well, so that the Gunners can be helped to known whether they have improved on their game or have faltered? Just imagine how Coquelin had allowed Arjen Robben to get away from him without tackling him to impede him and Robben had a free space to dangled and size up Ospina which cost us the first goal in the match. That goal is preventable had Coquelin done his job properly. What can of DM has Coquline turned to after recently getting a new contract extension deal at Arsenal? A comfort zone DM or what?

  • Josif

    @SAA

    Coquelin has been out of form pretty much since his knee injury in November 2015 against West Brom. He had shown a few positive signs before the injury against Chelsea but after Cazorla’s injury, he hasn’t been on the required level.

    My guess is, he wants to participate more in the attacking part of the game which is not his A game. He has never scored a goal and his passing range doesn’t make him exactly a top playmaker. He has pace, ability to recover the ball and tackle the opponents. That’s what he should be focusing on as Mr Wenger once said in 2015 while praising his form. Coquelin should carry the piano, Özil should play the piano and Xhaka should do a bit of both.

  • Pat

    There are many articles on this site. After the Watford match there was one about the match. This article is entitled Ref Review. So I can’t see how anybody coming to read this article can expect anything but a ref review.

  • Menace

    Pat – Gary Neville called one an idiot. You have just pointed to several idiots. 😉

  • Rosicky@Arsenal

    Dear Usama Zaka

    One of my friends is not convinced that Leicester last year so called victory was highly aided by Refs. Cud u pls tell me the number of wrong important decisions in favour of Leicester during the campaign to help me out.

    The 3 i recall from my memory are as below

    Wrong penalty against Newcastle
    Wrong penalty against Westham
    Two wrong calls against southhampton

    There were numerousof them.If you could add to above i will be obliged.

  • Josif

    @Rosicky

    A potential leg-breaker by Fuchs on Sessegnon – Sessegnon was booked for dissent by Ed Sheeran.

    Drinkwater got away without a red card for his potential leg-breaker on Ramsey.

    A penalty not given for City in a 0:0 draw.

    Vardy’s goals during the record-breaking streak – I think there was an offside or two.

  • Tommo

    Ok Tony, fair enough. Always good to have something from a different perspective.

    Thank you Samuel. On the same wave length. Good call on Coquelin which is still fresh in the mind. Incorrect decision on Coquelin! Now whether the free kick against Koscielny on 82 minutes from 2 weeks ago is the wrong call? No idea?

    Josif. Don’t be hard on yourself. No need to go back to school. The article and yourself say the ref was biased against arsenal? As I said before, its nearly 3 weeks ago this game and its hardly fresh in the mind. All I’ve done is taken the articles word on it? No big deal? If you’re going to use words like ‘biased’ then to me it sounds like he had it in for us. For your homework, just look up ‘bias’ in the dictionary, and then see if its much different to what I said?

  • Rosicky@Arsenal

    Tks josif

    Drinkwater challenges on Ramsey may not count as Arsenal still won.
    Tough we can further assume that if Drinkwater was sent off for a Red and miss 4 matches it could have costed furher points for Leicester.

    Re sessegnon cud u confirm the wrong call from Ref did change the result of the match.

  • Josif

    @Ros

    Leicester v WBA ended 2:2. It is very unlikely they would have won that point if Ed Sheeran had shown Fuchs a red card for a serious foul (3 matches out).

    Without Drinkwater they would have had three games with a make-shift midfield.

    Vs Southampton Mane rounded Schmeichel and sent the ball in the empty net only for Simpson (?) to handball it out of the goal. A penalty and a red card at 0:0 with over an hour of football to play – Soton would have probably won the match in which Leicester won 1:0.

    @Tommo

    If you had read the reviews correctly, especially Andrew’s post-review articles, you would have known that a game without major decisions going against us translates as “the ref didn’t influence on the final outcome”.

  • Rosicky@Arsenal

    Josif

    You forgot Huths handball vs Southhampton.A clear penalty in my opinion.

  • Tommo

    Josif, I stand corrected. You probably are right and do need to go back to school. I did read the article correctly.

    If you read my point correctly, where did I ever say the ref influenced the final outcome?

  • Usama Zaka

    Rosicky@Arsenal

    Oooofff, there are tons of them that went in favour of Leicester last season. They were awarded some 14-15 penalties, and conceded only 1-2 pens. Many of pens given were dives throughout the season, aided by the referees to award them. And far more than that were the pens that they did not concede for pushing, pulling, holding, handling the players & ball, again aided by the referees to not award them.

    Its just so much to recall from last season without good data on these things available in Leicester games.

  • Rosicky@Arsenal

    Usama

    Tks for the response cud u give video links to just 5 to 6 incidents which influenced the result of the match and added to Leicester points.

    I would be obliged.

  • Gord

    It would seem that Clattenburg had been in the doghouse, and possibly had turned (somewhat) to the dark side by Sith Master 😈 Mike Riley.

    But, Clattenburg is unusual to PGMO/EPL officiating, in that he is moving. Changing locations. This is unusual.

    One of the referees from 1994/95 is Phillip Don. I think he was the person to precede Hackett (and the 😈 Mike Riley).

    In any event, in doing a little research on him, it seems that some of the time he was based in Sheffield, and some of the time in Middlesex. And I don’t know when the move was. I suspect he was in Middlesex during 1994/95, because Sheffield Wednesday was in the EPL that season. If someone happens to have this information, that would be great. Better yet, would be officials records as to where all officials in that season were based. Most places just say “England”.

    Other information missing. Lots of FA Cup and League Cup games do not list a referee. Almost none list cards.

    aTdHvAaNnKcSe

  • Usama Zaka

    Rosicky@Arsenal,

    There is site called THE HPL. They did a complete week by week report with tables on how would the league table be if only goal & penalties (give and not given) judged on BBC, Sky Sports, MOTD and BT Sports were used.

    They found out that Arsenal should have won the league not Leicester.

    I have added some links of games where the according to the media Leicester were in a “fairy tale”

    https://justpaste.it/saved/14624881/eabffe36

    Sorry couldn’t find clips.

  • Rosicky@Arsenal

    Tks Usama that will help.

  • Rantetta

    Thanks, review team.

  • finsbury

    Yes.
    Many thanks.

  • finsbury

    Q: What kind of gbberibg loon goes onto a ref review published at the standard interval of a couple of weeks these past few years and asks why there is a ref review?

    A: the kind of gibbering pathetic troll that has failed to troll this blog using other angles, so it must reflect it’s own genius in these further efforts of failure upon a public forum. If only they were this passionate about the standard of the officials in association football, a structure where some officials have been forced to retire or forced out of the league, whereas fans and administrators in all other sports have been acting to support their officials in the modern era?

    Yes. It takes a special kind of disingenuous lunacy to plug that line, as anyone reading this blog can observe. The kind of expertise that can take a team from beating Bergkamp’s Holland and Argentina to national humiliation against the Giants of Costa Rica and Iceland?

    The Life of Riley. It’s lead to glory eh?

    Will we witness Probert C2014 cup final rigging effort tonight or will we get a Moss on good behaviour C2015 (following the public critiques of this individual by others in the build up back then, by his peers etc…). Anyone who tries to defend this predictable shite when compared to the Rugby etc. needs a rocket up their Arsenal. This is not a complicated debate.

  • ob1977

    Yet again more great work on the ref review, when i want to know how the ref performed during the match your ref reviews are by far the best, like most people when I want a match review I read your match review rather than these, sadly this is too complicated for some…