23 responses

  1. Jerry
    16/02/2012

    Finally able to see some PGMO changes! Just curious Walter, who is the next lowest on Important Decisions? Is it the same as the bottom 5 on the average calls list?

  2. WalterBroeckx
    16/02/2012

    Jerry I will try to make another article about that. As I have 4 different tables.

    Important
    Overall
    Weight
    Average

    There are some differences in fact but I will leave it for the article

  3. RedGooner
    16/02/2012

    Excellent article Walter.
    The only thing I might argue with is perhaps we could put 5 back at the same time 🙂
    Heck knows who ever gets promoted couldnt be much worse ……

    Here is a question for you did they promote anyone and if so who in his place or did they just decide that having less Refs than matches per week is the way to go and that we should all just get over the mistakes that come from having tired Refs.

    PS did you read the article about the Linesman in belgium nearly getting knocked out ?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/belgian-linesman-rocked-mystery-object-head-212438387.html

  4. WalterBroeckx
    16/02/2012

    Redgooner,

    Swarbrick and Moss are 2 new refs in the PL since this season. Both are +45 years old (I think) and I have nothing against people how have that age but this surely is not “the future” for refs I would think.

  5. WalterBroeckx
    16/02/2012

    Yes it has been a bit of a hype in Belgium. It happened at a ground some 15 minutes from my home in fact.
    As is written in the article you can see something white flying against his head (ice??). Certainly not the card board that was help up by the player. That player who is a very nice diver and if he gets hit by a breathing defender goes down as if been hit by a freight train. So the wrong person to insinuate that the linesman made more of it than it was.

    I think even if it was the cardboard, I would have stopped play. You simply do not accept people throwing anything at the refs. Shout, abuse, but when something gets thrown its over and certainly when it hits them.

    Now if it would have been a bit of ice it can hurt like mad and with temperatures of -7 to -10°C it can hurt a lot. And you also don’t expect the impact so it can hurt you.

  6. Frank Rizzo
    16/02/2012

    Atwell’s red card against Wolves following an overturned red v bolton (cahill) was probably the final nail in his coffin. That got huge press coverage.

  7. Mahdain
    16/02/2012

    funny how attwell gets relegated while even worse refs are allowed to continue screwing teams in top division… they should have kicked out the likes of dowd,dean,webb,probet,foy and walton first but we all know that wont happen because they are all fergus disciples

  8. bob
    16/02/2012

    Mahdain,
    Yes, that mendacious crew are meant to strew Red and Yellow rose petals along the path to Fergus XX. That Soap Opera unfolds…

  9. Mahdain
    16/02/2012

    bob yeah sad as it may seems but thats the plan… with master riley at top fergus gets all his demands fulfilled

  10. Norm
    16/02/2012

    So right, Mahdain. Who could be worse than Dowd, Dean, Mason, Webb, Walton & Probert? Relegation for these refs sounds a great move. Riley & Frigginson would be shafted for sure.

  11. RedGooner
    16/02/2012

    Walter, Its great to see we had a contingency plan with two over 45’s promoted …..Still moving in the wrong direction I wonder how they were selected since we dont review the championship only time will tell.

  12. Gooner Gal
    16/02/2012

    @ Walter great effort and presentation. If Atwell isn’t the worst, then it does beg the question why was he singled out for demotion.

    I wait for the day when a ref goes rogue and publishes a tell all book about the EPL. That would be a must read, best seller.

  13. Kentetsu
    17/02/2012

    Walter, have you reviewed Attwell at any time during the 2010-11 season? During that season he made some high profile errors in matches not involving Arsenal. I believe Dogface once made a list in one of his Ref Previews.
    And as Frank Rizzo mentioned, the red card for Cahill against Spurs was probably the nail in the coffin.

  14. DC
    17/02/2012

    Nice summary Walter.
    I think Frank Rizzo & Kenetsu are right; high profile errors that are publicised and highlighted in such clear terms are usually the cause for demotion. Cumulative smaller errors do not seem to be considered as clear incompetence – hence the anti-arsenal & pro-SAF officiating remains well represented in the EPL!
    Progress and change is slow but will happen.

  15. DogFace
    17/02/2012

    Bad news for Chelsea… they did rather well out of Attwell.

  16. DogFace
    17/02/2012

    Dah – not Attwell – Atkinson, I always get thouse two mixed up. Attwell is as random a referee as I’ve ever seen, no idea how he got into the select group in the first place.

  17. bob
    17/02/2012

    Obviously it’s hard to know if this was a football ruling or his problems on the pitch were the excuse to relegate him for other reasons? Perhaps Atwell is being made an object lesson. (What’s his age, btw?) Maybe his lapses into Competency came (or threaten to be there) at the wrong time for Plan Fergus XX? I didn’t read the Norwich/ManUre review (0-2 result), so not clear on what did/did not happen there that might not have been to Don Fergus’s liking. Or that somehow, he proved too independent (in his Arsenal result, for example) for the Hives of Riley; that he thus was not sufficiently on board in this key way to be trustworthy enough. Perhaps this demotion is meant to teach him and others a lesson in what it is to be sufficiently on board? And, after due penance, he will be restored to the Holy 17.

    Surely intermittent competence/incompetence seems more the apparent (I say apparent) rule, rather than the exception; and so, Atwell would seem to have been often within the Pale; but not reliably within the Pale to be counted on when it mattered? No way to know for sure, as nothing is transparent in the PGMO/FA, by intention. In any case, to invoke the Bard: all’s not well that Atwell.

  18. walter
    17/02/2012

    We had one win and a draw under Atwell this season. He is 29 years old for the moment.

  19. WalterBroeckx
    17/02/2012

    Bob, some interesting questions. 😉

    He made mistakes and most of them the important one. I don’t have enough information about him (from the last seasons) to see if the had any openly bias against some top team up north…

  20. Rhys Jaggar
    17/02/2012

    Ultimate question is what should be regarded as a ‘par score’ for the referees.

    Looks to me like 70% is about right.

  21. bob
    17/02/2012

    Rhys,
    I don’t see it as only about 70 per cent (which, btw, I think has been the UA ref reviewers consensus bottom line for acceptability). We also must link and hugely weight game-changing calls and non-calls that cannot simply be subsumed into the 70 per cent. Even a rare 90 per cent score would pale if in the 10 per cent wrong calls were 1-3 game changers. I’m just saying the obvious, but it needs to be said nevertheless.

  22. Dave Right
    19/02/2012

    @ Walter
    Atwell presided over Arsenal v Bolton in September 2010. He made a number of major errors in favour of Bolton, so much so that MOTD for whatever reason did not include them in their ‘highlights’. Hence this video …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD2oThVsw8Q

  23. goonermichael
    19/02/2012

    I love your site. It seems obvious that there is something very dodgy going on. I met Atwell recently and he seems like a nice bloke. His girlfriend is a gooner!

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