48 responses

  1. Stan The Man
    28/11/2014

    Great job, very good post. Incontrovertible evidence of the evils done our club by the PGMO over the years. It’s a shame professionals do these things to fellow professionals in the name of winning. Something needs to be done and that urgently too. Short jail time might for offending players might do the trick.

  2. Menace
    28/11/2014

    It is not sad. It is disgraceful. The cheats that call themselves PGMO under the guidance of the FA in full sight of UK’s corrupt greedy media, letting foul play destroy The Beautiful Game.

    May their evil souls rot in hell.

  3. Fred
    28/11/2014

    Straws and clutching spring to mind. It was an unfortunate tackle annd didn’t look malicious to me. I was at the game and no one in crowd reacted.

  4. ikhaa
    28/11/2014

    Good post, England league is one of the best league in the world, but England use thier ref to fix marches, these is whot is affecting their players in major competition

  5. apo Armani
    28/11/2014
  6. apo Armani
    28/11/2014

    My previous post is not directed at the author of course!!!

  7. apo Armani
    28/11/2014

    Walter – another excellent article BASED ON FACTS…its a crying shame our players and club have had to endure this for so many years!!! Really is!

  8. Samuel Akinsola Adebosin
    28/11/2014

    I think the boss is planning to sign a player in January. I advice he should make it two signings-one beast of a CB and one beast of a DM. If Arsenal have 2 beast of defenders at the back and in the midfield that can break opponent players leg, the opposing players will be thinking twice before acting. The other clubs have taken us for granted because we don’t have the leg breakers at Arsenal. Would the boss be looking to sign Azuburke Egwuekwe? The 6ft 5” Nigerian Super Eagles center half back to understudy BFG or even be starting along side him. Beast-Egwuekwe 25 is already a ready made material that needs only some finishing touches at Arsenal. He plays for Warri Wolves, a professional Premeir League club side in the Nigerian League. If the boss agreed to sign him, which will be on the very cheap. One problem is off, remaining the beast of a CB for the boss to tackle.

  9. Stan The Man
    28/11/2014

    @Fred, ah what brilliant logic. But did you ask yourself why the crowd didn’t react? Simple. ‘They’ were not at the receiving end of the tackle. You want an accurate reaction? Ask Jack.

  10. Stan The Man
    28/11/2014

    @Fred, ah what brilliant logic. But did you ask yourself why the crowd didn’t react? Simple. ‘They’ were not at the receiving end of the tackle, neither were you. Want an accurate reaction? Ask Jack.

  11. apo Armani
    28/11/2014

    So unless the crowd reacts there is no harm done?? How does that work??

  12. apo Armani
    28/11/2014

    Ohhhhh I get it!!! The crowd didn’t react so the ref didn’t either – ref reacts to what the crowd indicate he should react to. Now that is something!!

  13. Fred
    28/11/2014

    I repeat, straws and clutching.

  14. SouthernGunner
    28/11/2014

    Malicious or not, it’s dangerous & incompetent from any ref to allow this sort of thing against any team, not just Afc. Even if Jack wasn’t injured last week, he probably should have sent off for the Fellani incident as that would have been by the rules. It’s almost as it he was kept on the pitch by the ref to deliberately risk getting hurt.

    Also might want to add Theo’s knew injury to the list. Anyone remember the ref in that game?

  15. Fred
    28/11/2014

    I do hope your being sarcastic, the ref kept jack on so he could get injured. That is a leap and half.

  16. Mick
    28/11/2014

    @Fred
    I suspect that remark was tongue in cheek unlike yours which was plain stupid.

  17. Fred
    28/11/2014

    What’s stupid about it, the article suggests that Dean was the reason jack got injured, I’m saying he had absolutely nothing to do with it. I repeat straws and clutching, it obviously touchs a nerve with some of you cats hey

  18. bjtgooner
    28/11/2014

    A good article Walter, it is indeed sad that we can almost predict what will happen depending on who is the ref.

    It seems that the managers and players of some teams know that with certain refs they can get away with more than the average thuggery when playing Arsenal.

    The analysis in the article is very straightforward – sad that some (a new troll?) chose to misrepresent its meaning.

  19. Fred
    28/11/2014

    Not a new troll sir, been in here a few times before, some very good articles. If you do a bit of research you may find that Man U have very poor record when dean is ref. I repeat straws and clutching

  20. Mick
    28/11/2014

    @Fred
    You obviously didn’t comprehend the article. The reason Dean is culpable is because he has, for a number of years, allowed such challenges to go largely unpunished so Jacks injury was an accident waiting to happen. He has allowed the opposing teams carte blanche to engage in dangerous tactics, thus he is complicit. It’s not difficult to understand Walters reasoning even if you disagree with it. As far as no-one in the ground reacting to it I beg to differ, the crowd round me were furious to a man. Just because it didn’t look malicious has nothing to do with it. It was a desperate lunge, out of control and mistimed, he led with his studs with no regard for the consequences of his actions. Dangerous play, foul and red card. The fact that Dean didn’t give it doesn’t make it OK.

  21. WalterBroeckx
    28/11/2014

    I could have added Gibbs who had a broken foot a few years ago also…

  22. Fred
    28/11/2014

    Absolutely Mick, bad tackle, unintentional but late and dangerous. However the point of crowd reaction was that means those around me followed ball and didn’t even know jack was injured, granted I’m upstairs at other end but this conspiracy theory is absolute fantasy. Dean is a Cxxt but let’s live in reality, otherwise this sight becomes as deluded as just arsenal and le grove are brainless

  23. Fred
    28/11/2014

    Walter, please it’s getting embarrassing, sighting jacks injury in the emerates cup. JFK and UFOS

  24. Alex
    28/11/2014

    I don’t know what to say about this article.

    The article is backed by concrete facts as you did several times.
    Then you are angry that the media doesn’t say much.
    Wenger his job is to prepare the players to play.

    Question is what does club do or say about it ?

    Nothing nada zero .

    I don’t question the media nor PGMOL but the club. Me think.

  25. Th14thesecond
    28/11/2014

    Shame a couple people have missed the point. It’s quite simple really. Allowing teams to ‘get stuck in’ to Arsenal has very dangerous repercussions and the truth is that the laws of the game are black & white and do not allow for the ref to ignore anything that is outside of those laws. Whether that is because they want to ‘let the game flow’ or not. Simple.

  26. WalterBroeckx
    29/11/2014

    Fred, the real embarrassment is that it all happens when PGMO refs are on the field.

    And by using the word ‘unintentional’ you show that you are a dinosaur in the laws of the game. The word “intention” has been removed when dealing with fouls like that. As I said many times a ref has to look at ‘can it cause a serious injury’ or ‘did it cause a serious injury’.

    If it was intended or not doesn’t matter.

  27. bjtgooner
    29/11/2014

    Fred

    “Not a new troll sir, been in here a few times before,” – therefore a troll returned?

  28. apo Armani
    29/11/2014

    @bjtgooner
    November 29, 2014 at 12:33 am

    hahahahahahahahahaha

  29. soglorious
    29/11/2014

    Fred, I appreciate your simplicity. See, no one here is trying to justify our loss to Man Utd. That has been done in previous articles. What this article is bringing to the fore (with evidences) is that Arsenal players get injured more than any other club especially when the ref is a product of PGMOL. Most importantly, whenever M.Dean is the ref. Man Utd game is just another example of such incompetence.
    Hope you get it! Peace.

  30. AL
    29/11/2014

    Good post Walter. Maybe it’s down to the training methods? (being sarcastic in case someone missed the point). Those choosing to defend refs, can you tell me if anyone has been punished for the 3month lay offs our players have suffered due to bad tackles alone this season? (Ozil, Debuchy, Giroud, Wilshere…). Arteta and Ramsey have also taken a bettering.
    It’s a miracle Sanchez is not in crutches…

    I know you couldn’t list all the incidents Walter – far too many to mention I know; but just thought I’d addone from recent years – vlad chiriches’s stamp on Walcott which has ruled him out up to now….

  31. Highamsparkgunner
    29/11/2014

    As per usual the media were so concerned with Wilshire nuzzling Fellaini they completely missed the severity of the assault on jack. It makes me sick,1 week earlier jack was Englands Man of the match 2 games running the next week is back to normal being fouled constantly with no action taken.If for whatever reason Arsenal don’t say anything about the constant allowance of bad tackles on Arsenal players maybe Roy Hodgson could speak to Pgmol as this arsenal team nearly makes up half his players and injured players ate no good to him.
    Re Fred and crowd at Emirates. Where I was there was a reaction by the crowd but the AAA were louder with their own agenda last week.

  32. CuDdLeBeAr
    29/11/2014

    when people don’t say the truth, it hurts! those stupid refs did wat they know best and that is to allow physical intimidation from teams who can’t kick s–t to counter arsenal’s beautiful play. honestly, England’s ref association is RUBBISH!

  33. Pat
    29/11/2014

    Thanks for the list of shame, Walter. It makes my blood boil to read it.

    I’ve just listened to Arsene Wenger’s pre-match press conference. Arsene talked about joint injuries this season, not muscular injuries. And he talked about the tackle on Jack and while he said the player did not intend to injure Jack, he said, look at it again, it was a very, very bad tackle. And I note Walter’s reminder that intention does not play a role in how a referee should regard a tackle.

    Well, for me it couldn’t be clearer. Arsene Wenger is trying to point the press in the direction of considering that the injuries are the results of bad tackles. Of course he doesn’t mention the referees. For one, managers have already been punished this season for criticism of referees. For two, he knows as soon as he says something like that, the press will accuse him of whingeing and accuse our players of being wimps.

    Again some press man tried to suggest that Wilshere was responsible for his own injury. Utterly sickening.

  34. pablo
    29/11/2014

    I personaly hate seeing mike Dean officiating for Arsenal.
    Am pretty sure he receives bribe before arsenal game.
    Or maybe he just hate arsenal.
    England Officiate is the worst Officiate in Europe.

  35. Micheal Ram
    29/11/2014

    I personally feel Peter Walton gave Shawcross red card because he saw Sol Cambell was charging at him.

  36. jambug
    29/11/2014

    Fred

    When you come here shouting the odds, learn the rules first then perhaps you wouldn’t look quite so stupid.

    New Troll? Returning Troll? Not even a Troll.

    Anyone who tries to defend the likes of Taylor and Shawcross etc., and of course the officials that allow them to behave in the reckless way they do, may not be a Troll but rather just a complete prick.

    Let me ask you this Fred:

    If your child got run over and seriously hurt by a motorist driving Dangerously/Recklessly down your street, would you be happy if he got away with it because the judge deemed

    “HE DID’NT MEAN IT” ?

    Honestly, are you really saying that is an excuse ???

    Answer that, and explain your reasoning then maybe I’ll take your prehistoric attitude a bit more seriously !!

  37. Gooner S
    29/11/2014

    @Fred

    So following your logic why exactly is Dean a C*** ? I would never call him this despite my views of him as a referee but you seem to have strong views why so?

    I was at the game too. It was a clear foul. Your memory must be playing tricks with you because the crowd did react calling it a foul. I’m in block 18 so between the halfway line and the penalty box on the east side, nearer the away support. A side ways on view but quite a way away. Most around me called it as a foul. The referee is nearer than most in the crowd. No, not a malicious foul but it doesn’t have to be malicious to warrant a sending off. Should the player have been sent off? Yes!

  38. Mandy Dodd
    29/11/2014

    Telling stats. Watch any game, wilshere is getting his ankles targeted. I know this may go against wengers much discussed principles but starting to think we really need an enforcer….who will sometimes take one for the team. Players committing these fouls need to know there will be repercussions, because let’s face it, our players are not going to be protected as long as Riley hangs on. We will get red cards with such a player, but we do anyway.

  39. Rich
    29/11/2014

    I wanna get in here and say that while I disagree with a decent amount of what Fred said, it doesn’t sit right with me to see everyone line up to give him a kicking.

    I mean, if you react as badly to him challenging your views as that, what about the likes of the Stoke fans who to this day feel Shawcross didn’t do much wrong and, instead, remain focused on how hard done by they and their player were in the aftermath? These people harbour great anger towards…Ramsay. They are sick in the head and walk among us like normal-ish folk

    I encountered one the other day on Twitter- he actually came up with a new one ,for me, apparently it wouldn’t have happened had Bendtner not pulled Shawcross’ shirt and so stopped him getting there in time (he must believe Shawcross has the fine motor skills of a defective JCB digger)- sadly just before I was trying to get to sleep with an early start in the morning.

    They are the fellows to reserve your greatest anger for (not that it does any good), not for one of our own fans who, if you approach it right, there is a slight chance you can persuade to move closer to your own position/the light.

  40. Blargh
    29/11/2014

    The problem with an enforcer for Arsenal is that he will be out for half the season due to red cards. If I thought the rules were being applied equally that might work, but as it is the rules are applied so much harsher against Arsenal players than anyone else.

  41. jambug
    29/11/2014

    Rich

    Hardly ganging up on him is it.

    He’s come on thread in total contradiction to the article. He has cited 2 things:

    1)The author is clutching at straws

    2)Un intentional = innocent.

    He has been tackled on both those points with solid arguments and a question. Apart from me calling him a prick for effectively condoning thuggery everyone else has bee polite.

    He has as yet failed to answer the question posed to him, or put forward a logical reason for defending his accusations.

    If I went on La Grove with the core of this article don’t you think they’d be queuing up to have a go at me?

    As I said yesterday, if you cant stand the heat keep out of the kitchen.

  42. Rich
    29/11/2014

    Jambug

    Maybe. Probably just a thing I have where I don’t like seeing one against everyone else unless the one in question is a 24-carrot douche bag and abusive with it.

    Trust me, though, if it were that Stoke fan from the other day I’d be bludgeoning him with the kitchen’s frying pan

  43. Rantetta
    29/11/2014

    Dean v Wilshere v the press:

    http://instagram.com/p/v724UOCz8p/

  44. jambug
    29/11/2014

    Rich

    I admire your benevolence my friend, but personally I wouldn’t waste it on the likes of Fred.

  45. jambug
    29/11/2014

    Rich

    By the way, you may of noticed how Fred has suddenly disappeared once asked simply to explain his views.

    As I said my friend, your benevolence is truly misguided.

    FRED……where are you, you prick ??????

  46. jambug
    29/11/2014

    Fred,

    Or can I take it you are quite happy to have your family injured by reckless motorists………. as long as they ‘didn’t mean it’ of course !!

  47. jambug
    29/11/2014

    Fred oh Fred where for ought thou Fred !!!!

  48. Gooner S
    30/11/2014

    @Rich

    I wouldn’t label myself an AKB or an AAA (as @Tony knows I abhor both of those descriptions). I happen to have views that are on balance in support of Arsene Wenger and AFC.I think most fans are in favour of Arsene Wenger but are a largely silent majority. I replied to @Fred and was very polite about it. It isn’t ganging up at all. Why should we let these comments go?

    I’m on twitter too. Twitter is a bear pit at the moment between Arsenal fans. This place by comparison is sweetness and light.

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