6 responses

  1. Yiannis
    28/10/2016

    Can’t you challenge them by sending them the article? Perhaps they will respond and we will get the answers to your questions

  2. Notoverthehill
    28/10/2016

    Tony, you should read that report in conjunction with Recruitment strategy throughout Europe.

    Quite:

    3. Arrival timeline

    The arrival timeline in a club refers to the semester during which current squad members were recruited. Players promoted from the academy to the first team squad are not included in the analysis. On average, footballers present in the big-5 leagues in October 2016 are in their employer club since 1.9 years.

    The analysis by league and club level again bring to light important gaps. Players from English clubs were recruited since a longer period than footballers from other championships: 2.3 years on average on the 1st October 2016.

    IMHO!

  3. OlegYch
    29/10/2016

    “The analysis of the age of players when they were recruited by the club represented in October 2016 also allows us to highlight important differences in transfer policies. Footballers from the youth academy are not included in the analysis.”
    this seems pretty clear
    thanks for the link though

  4. OlegYch
    29/10/2016

    btw Arsenal has the largest extent of internal recruitment in PL (fwiw) according to their report

  5. OlegYch
    29/10/2016

    the issue of data sources not being publicly available is of course a shame, but it’s mostly because those sources are either commercial (like Opta) or not really credible
    it is pertinent to pretty much any contemporary media (including Untold)

  6. Robido
    29/10/2016

    Thank you for highlighting this source of analysis. It is a gem for datanerds. They identify opta as a source for some data but it may be that their researchers have also had to do a considerable amount of digging. They may share the raw data if you ask nicely.

    As you say data can be presented misleadingly. In any table there has to be a top and bottom and without appropriate description data is just that, it is not information.

    To be fair to CIES they explicitly state that academy graduates are excluded but only when you get behind the headline. It would be interesting to understand why this is the case, possibly as some European teams have such high numbers the average squad recruitment age would be ridiculously low? I would agree however that some reflection of this would be helpful.

    Arsenal are shown as the second highest internal promoters in the premiership and this will affect their position in the table but it is no bad thing. The odd very experienced recruit also pushes up the average which given the position as 12th of 98 (missing the top 10 by .07) means we are still very much in the upper reaches of this table.

    We also show very favourably in continuity and do not have the largess of the bottomless pocketed.

    The full monthly report is good read if for those who are sad enough and like most data driven reports raise many questions around what lies behind the stats. Whilst it mostly reinforces “accepted knowlege” there is the odd surprise.

    http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/mr/mr18/en/phone/index.html

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