By Bulldog Drummond
Arsenal are playing in their 30th FA Cup semi-final – no side has ever played in more. They’ve reached the Final on 20 occasions, which is also a joint record (level with Manchester United for both). But where Arsenal stand alone is in the number of times the club has won the FA Cup. It is 13. No one has more.
Arsene Wenger has won the FA Cup seven times – more than any other manager in the entire history of the cup – 1872 to the present day. (Beware though, some anti-Arsenal websites don’t accept this. TheSackRace for example is up to date with its data but still says, “Scotland’s George Ramsay holds the record for the most amount of FA Cup wins with six, claiming all of them while in charge of Aston Villa.”)
The extent people will go to, to knock Arsene Wenger. Indeed it is quite amazing how much of this misinformation is out there. However here are the cup winning details by club down to Manchester City, who have just under half the number of Cup wins that Arsenal has.
|Club||Wins||First final won||Last final won||Runners-up||Last final lost||Total final
Mikel Arteta has won the FA Cup twice, in 2014 and 2015. The top ten semi-final teams (excluding this round of semis) are shown here.
|West Bromwich Albion||20||10||10|
In terms of semi-finals, Arsenal and Manchester United have both appeared in 29 semi-finals, and each won 20 and lost nine. Manchester City have appeared in 14 semi-finals and won 11 while losing three.
To give you some pleasant memories here are Arsenal’s semis this century
|Year||Winning team||Losing team||Score||Venue|
|2001||Arsenal||Tottenham Hotspur||2–1||Old Trafford|
|2003||Arsenal||Sheffield United||1–0||Old Trafford|
|2004||Manchester United||Arsenal||1–0||Villa Park|
|2005||Arsenal||Blackburn Rovers||3–0||Millennium Stadium|
|2014||Arsenal||Wigan Athletic||1–1||Wembley Stadium|
|2017||Arsenal||Manchester City||2–1||Wembley Stadium|
This of course is a tribute to Arsenal’s history as a club that has spent 100 years in the top division. But now we are in the days of unlimited money Manchester City have become a stronger club. Indeed we have lost the last seven meetings with Manchester City in all competitions, having only scored two goals in that period. If this were my Bob Dylan site I’d use the quote, “Money doesn’t talk it…”
We have had longer runs of defeats, but only two – and both of these runs were against Leeds.
If you are a regular follower of Untold you may have seen some of the posts that have come from people who profess to be supporters of Manchester City, questioning pretty much everything that has been written here about them, suggesting for example that CAS found Manchester City not guilty in their recent appeal, and also suggesting that Untold has never previously raised questions about CAS’ approach and the basis of its activities, before this case. The implication is that we are just questioning CAS now, whereas of course we started this long before Man City was any sort of an issue.
I’ve tried to answer the points which have been put without abuse, without multiple comments from the same person using different email addresses etc, all with equanimity, and spent some time providing the evidence that seems to me to be reasonable, but I think I’ve had enough of that. I’ve had too many people writing under multiple names and email addresses (one even arguing the toss with himself), and of course a huge level of abuse, which hasn’t been published. Indeed I think the majority of comments from Manchester City supporters are not being published now because they don’t abide by our rules on commenting. Of course I am not saying these are the majority of Manchester City supporters, but they seem to be the majority that come onto this site.
I don’t know why it is not possible to have a civilised debate on the topic of how CAS operates, and why it threw out the Uefa punishment, but it seems not to be. So probably best to move on.
Physioroom has now got Arsenal second in the injury league with seven. Manchester City have three – only West Ham and Sheffield United have fewer with two each.
- Newcastle United: 9 men injured
- Arsenal: 7 men injured
- Leicester City: 7 men injured
- Aston Villa: 6 men injured
- Tottenham Hotspur: 6 men injured
We’ll take a look at the form and teams in the next article.
Arsenal and the media
- Is Santi Cazorla now outperforming EVERY Arsenal player except Aubameyang?
- The racist bias in football reporting and its implication for all commentary
- Even by their own awful standards, yesterday’s radio commentary was dire
- “Disgraceful;” “The worst refereeing performance I have ever seen”. TalkSport
- Journalist’s wild anti-Arsenal rant unravels after simple fact checking
- Injuries Time to sack Tierney accordinig to one part of the media
- Next season starting lineup and the new Financial Fair Play rules
- The huge bias of referees is proven. PGMO and media fight back.
- 93 players rumoured to be going to Arsenal. Are the journos getting lazy?
- The home and away scandal: ignorance, or cover up?