By Bulldog Drummond
As things stand Arsenal have three first team players listed as injured ahead of the derby game on Thursday, and Tottenham have four. Interestingly the three clubs with the worst situation in terms of injuries are Leeds, Norwich and Watford, all three residing down in the basement.
You’ll know our three injuries well enough: Ben White, who has been reported as being hopeful for the Tottenham game, plus Tierney and Partey who it has been suggested are out for the rest of the campaign.
As for Tottenham Tanganga is out for the rest of the season, Doherty is reported as being assessed, Reguilon is probably out for the rest of the season and Skipp has had his operation and is in recovery, so again not able to play this season.
But looking through the various statistics relating to these two teams, the one thing that stands out, alongside Arsenal’s ability to win the occasional trophy against Tottenham’s inability so to do, is the number of managers.
In the chart below we can see the list of Tottenham managers and their dates, and then in the right column with a certain level of approximation to match the dates, the Arsenal managers
|Antonio Conte||02 Nov, 2021||Present||Arteta|
|Nuno Espirito Santo||30 Jun, 2021||01 Nov, 2021||Arteta|
|Ryan Mason||19 Apr, 2021||29 Jun, 2021||Arteta|
|Jose Mourinho||20 Nov, 2019||19 Apr, 2021||Emery/Freddie/Arteta|
|Mauricio Pochettino||27 May, 2014||19 Nov, 2019||Wenger|
|Tim Sherwood||16 Dec, 2013||13 May, 2014||Wenger|
|Andre Villas-Boas||03 Jul, 2012||16 Dec, 2013||Wenger|
|Harry Redknapp||25 Oct, 2008||15 Jun, 2012||Wenger|
|Juande Ramos||29 Oct, 2007||25 Oct, 2008||Wenger|
|Clive Allen||26 Oct, 2007||29 Oct, 2007||Wenger|
|Martin Jol||05 Nov, 2004||26 Oct, 2007||Wenger|
|Jacques Santini||03 Jun, 2004||05 Nov, 2004||Wenger|
|David Pleat||21 Sep, 2003||03 Jun, 2004||Wenger|
|Glenn Hoddle||02 Apr, 2001||21 Sep, 2003||Wenger|
|David Pleat||16 Mar, 2001||02 Apr, 2001||Wenger|
Now I know that the Wenger era was an exception but even so if one goes back further, Arsenal managers do generally tend to stay for quite a while. Bruce Rioch was an exception lasting one season, but most other permanent managers have stayed for quite a long time. Indeed it could be said that occasionally we keep managers for longer than we ought to…
George Graham stayed almost nine years, Don Howe two and a half years, Terry Neill six and a half years, Bertie Mee 10 years (which most certainly was far too long, given that his achievements stopped with the double), Billy Wright* three years, George Swindin* four years, Jack Cryaston* two years, Tom Whittaker nine years, George Allison six years (excluding the second world war), Herbert Chapman nine years, Leslie Knighton* six years. (Managers marked with an asterisk* were those who won nothing).
That gives us 11 permanent managers before Wenger with an average tenure of five and a quarter years.
During the same period Tottenham have had 19 managers, as far as I can work out, excluding the obviously temporary ones. And I would stress again I am not counting the Wengerian era since that was quite clearly so unusual.
And there is one other little bit of history that I would like to consider before I turn it in for the day.
Tottenham have built up a reputation for being one of the big clubs on the basis of a collection of 17 trophies in their history.
- League winners: 2 (Arsenal 13)
- FA Cup winners: 8 (Arsenal 14)
- League cup winners: 4 (Arsenal 2)
- Cup winners cup and Uefa winners: 3 (Arsenal 2)
Arsenal’s total is 31 trophies – almost double Tottenham’s number of trophies.
And it is not that Arsenal have been winning trophies for longer than Tottenham. Tottenham in fact won their first major trophy (the FA Cup) in 1901, 29 years before Arsenal won their first major trophy (coincidentally also the FA Cup).
But it is also true to say that for the last five years Tottenham have ended up above Arsenal in the League, so we can perhaps hope that this year that run will come to an end.
Arsenal v Tottenham: the free video collection
- 5 September 1970: Arsenal beat Tottenham on the way to the Double
- 9 December 1972: Tottenham Hotspur 1-2 Arsenal (9th Dec. 1972) Relive the game on video
- 26 April 1975: Arsenal v Tottenham as Tottenham seek to avoid relegation: the video
- 10 September 1988: A surreal free for all. The ultimate Tottenham game
- 31 March 2001: A minute’s silence for Rocky then taking Tottenham apart
- 16 November 2002: The greatest goal ever against Tottenham
- 15 December 2002: Tottenham v Arsenal, the complete game from 2002
- 8 Nov 2003: Beating Tottenham in the unbeaten season
- 13 November 2004: The amazing Tottenham 4 Arsenal 5
- 3 December 2006: Gilberto Silva is captain in this superb win over Tottenham
- 31 January 2007: Beating Tottenham 3-1 oh what fun!
- 15 September 2007: The Tottenham Arsenal game with the most brilliant goals
- 31 October 2009: Cesc scores the ultimate goal of the season – beating Tottenham
- 17 November 2012: Slamming five past Tottenham
- 1 September 2013: Arsenal v Tottenham 2013
- 16 March 2014: That wonderful Rosicky screamer against Tottenham at the very start
- 23 September 2015: Beating Tottenham in 2015
- 15 May 2016: Swamping Villa and destroying Tottenham and Arteta’s last goal
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- Yet another example of the way the media tries to put down Arsenal
- The Continental Tyres Cup 2022/23 quarter finals: Arsenal v Villa