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The Untold Banner: a brief(ing) update

The Untold Banner: a brief(ing) update

by Blacksheep

Having suggested the idea of putting a banner up in the Emirates to mark our appreciation of M. Wenger I must admit to being overwhelmed by the number of positive responses and offers of hard cash from Untold readers. This is going to take some organizing but Tony and I thought it would be a good idea to let you all know where we are at with it.

Since I posted the blog we haven’t had a home game and Tony has been sashaying around Europe while I’ve been hard at work campaigning to get a Green Party MP elected in Northampton (sadly without success!)  However, Monday will bring the two of us together again and we will be talking banners all the way to London I expect. But this does not mean nothing has happened.

Several readers made suggestions as to what we put on the banner* and so I’ve tried to come up with a shortlist of idea. This is NOT exclusive nor does it have to be the finished concept: when we have a final shortlist of 3 ideas/designs we will post on Untold and you can vote on them using Survey Monkey [if I can make that work].  [Don’t worry Blacksheep – we have that at the agency so no problem – Tony]

Just so you know how the ideas are coming in these are some of the quotes etc we are considering:

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Untold banner 1

Basically we could go for a banner that clearly shows our support and appreciation for Arsene Wenger and/or his style of play. Or something witty or different that reflects the character of some of our Untold posts. It could carry the word ‘Untold’ or not.

At the moment I’m still undecided; I love the idea of a banner that WE would all know was OURS and had a part in, but have no fixed concept of what I want it to look like or say. So all of that is open to negotiation.

There are some technical issues: the company we would probably use has been recommended by Red Action and it’s

But we need a graphic designer or someone who has the skill to make this look good. I’ve tried doing this on powerpoint but it’s beyond my basics. I do know one but she’s very busy and on holiday in a week or two and there may be one of you that has the requisite skills to take this on. Email me at if you can help.

Money will be no problem since so many readers have generously offered to help. When we have a design, approved by Arsenal and ready to go to production we will set up kickstarter fund as at least one of you suggested.

So that’s the latest, send me ideas etc (via that email address) and I will collate them and liaise with Tony and Walter.

Thanks one and all, let’s do this!


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9 May 1891: Dr James Paterson born.  He was awarded the Military Cross in the first world war and his history at Arsenal is a major factor in exposing the mendacity of Leslie Knighton’s autobiography which misled historians of the club for years.

9 May 2014: Koscielny signed a new long term contract after frenzied speculation about him leaving.  Wenger later called him the best value for money player he had at the club.





* most of them printable J

57 comments to The Untold Banner: a brief(ing) update

  • WalterBroeckx

    As one of the other board members of the Arsenal Belgium supporters club is coming to the final home game he will be carrying some cash from me and him. He will try to meet Tony and Drew somewhere before the match to hand over our contribution for the banner.

  • dave

    I like the parked bus but would like an Untold logo or wording!

  • Gooner S

    “A football team is like a beautiful woman. When you do not tell her, she forgets she is beautiful.”

    “Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home.”

    “If you do not believe you can do it then you have no chance at all.”

    “We do not buy superstars. We make them.”

    “I did not see the incident.”

  • ARSENAL 13

    Tony, make sure you have an account of sorts for us distant gooners to transfer the funds.

  • Andy Mack

    ‘Welcome to the Arsene Wenger Stadium where form is temporary but Class is permanent’

  • bob mac

    If enough Untolders are willing to support this idea financially would it not be possible to have more than one banner.

  • colario

    I think the banner should show our support for Arsene. So I suggest something along the lines of:

    ”This is Arsene’s Arsenal”

    or ”We are Arsene’s Arsenal and proud to be Gooners”

  • WalterBroeckx

    I don’t know how lang such a banner is being hang up in the stadium but it should be something that still will have a meaning even after Wenger will be gone one day (in the very distant future…°

  • Lanz

    If it is to honour Wenger, then it has to be truly Wenger era. Negotiating parked buses since the begining does not quite reflect it is of the Wenger era. A quote, maybe? I love two: the “target” one and the famous “I didn’t see” one. Does anyone remember one or two he used to cover for the likes of Almunia and Fabregas in those days? I can’t wait to vote after the final three have been selected.

  • WalterBroeckx

    off topic: After having been spoken too by Mr. Riley, we can now see that Mr. Oliver has chosen the easy way when it comes to dealing with penalty situations and Manchester United…..

  • para

    We will probably end up getting two banners way things are going, but I agree that the first should be completely Arsene Wenger.
    Love the parked bus one though. It already looks to be a tough vote coming up.
    Yes Walter, watching that game with one eye. Really soft pen, poor CP are getting no protection. Utd are woeful.

  • para

    How many colors are the designs allowed to have? Does more colors mean more cost?

  • Al

    Yes, let’s do it! 🙂

  • para

    CP are having a hard time, reminds me of the sort of stuff we get, feel for them.

  • para

    Justice served by brilliance. Yea. CP 1- manu 1

  • Al

    The parked buses one is quite witty 🙂 Although it may not reflect on the Wenger era only unfortunately. But that one is difficult to troll…. which is probably where the ‘I didn’t see it’ might have a weakness.

  • Al

    How about tweaking the parked buses one to something like “Arsene, negotiating parked buses since 1996”?

  • para

    MAGIC = Arsenal + Arsene Wenger.

  • Lanz

    @Al, thumbs up!

  • Al

    Can’t remember if it was Andrew or you Blacksheep who said the quote about making it an art is vulnerable to graffiti vandals who could add an F before art.

    Sure there’ll be lots of brilliant ideas but it’s important to choose something that’ll not be easily twisted into something ugly by some soulless bastards on the Internet. You just have to look at the sort of week Boateng has had to see that the Internet can be a very cruel place.

  • Malaysiangooner

    Man utd got away with pushing defenders into goalkeeper, AGAIN.

  • Mandy Dodd

    When Utd are being outplayed, their top four place under threat, you can rely on the pgmol to come to the rescue.
    Hopefully now the ref will be under no specific orders when we go to OT.
    Fergie has gone, but the song remains the same.

  • Mandy Dodd

    Back to the banners, love them all

  • Menace

    Welcome to the home of Wengerball – Football as an Art.

  • Vikrant Dogra

    The 2 worst aspects of the ‘winning goal’? Gary Neville completely ignores Falcao’s push in to the Palace defender who then hits Speroni in the ribs, and Alan Pardew’s weak ‘keeper may have done better on that’ interview just now…

  • Mandy Dodd

    Do like the one with the wenger quote but those all have their merits. The parked buses…..Jose, and his supporters in the media and aaa would rise to that one, that alone seriously makes it worth a go! Then the wenger stadium…..again, a great positive tribute, but would really piss off some of the aaa, and Stewart Robson.

  • colario

    A king lives in a palace. Without Arsene we would not have had the new stadium. Therefore I think it should be renamed as ‘Wenger’s Palace’

  • Jerry

    how about:

    “Football Played As An Art, Winning Beautifully Since 1996, The Untold Legacy of Arsène Wenger”

  • Florian

    More than a stadium, more than a club. The Untold Arsene Wenger.

  • Gord

    The ladies ended up 1-1, 1045 in attendance.

  • Mick

    How about…

  • Menace

    @ Mick – I love it!! 😉

  • Gord

    Nice story about Coquelin at The Guardian. Not the usual trivial crap.

    People have been babbling about ambition. Tottenham and Southampton showed their ambition today. ManU continues to cheat to finish high.

    I can’t imagine QPR are going to do anything except roll over and die against ManC. They can’t be looking forward to starting next season in the 1st Division. Will Liverpool come out to play, or will Chelsea bore them to sleep?

  • Gord

    Apparently Santi Cazorla is close to a record.

    > Arsenal star Santi Cazorla has admitted that he doesn’t even practice penalties after being told that he is one success away from equalling Thierry Henry’s record of seven in a row, Marca report.

  • Al

    Thanks for the Coquelin link Gord.

  • Dec

    Brilliant initiative, I wish it every success.
    Probably needs some of the more creative minds among us (Brickfields? Gord?) to produce something of substance and quality but for my tuppence worth how about :

    “Arsene Wenger:
    Le Boss”


    “Arsenal Football Club – Where Legends are born.”

    or maybe even a minimalist but true sentiment –

    “Arsene – He knows best.”

    I’m sure the end product will do us proud.

  • Gord

    I’m glad you liked the story Al. I thought it was a very well written story.

  • Hisham Hashim


    Arsene Wenger Es Some Magician, Eh!

  • colario

    Is the purpise of the banner to promote Untold or to affirm our love of Arsenal?

  • ARSENAL 13

    “……..who will give you a chance, and when I can do this in football, I do it.”

  • Laughing Lzard

    Donate the money to a charity for the poor now the obnoxious Tories are back in power.

  • nicky

    Please don’t perpetuate the silly statement allegedly made by Arsene, about making “anything” into an art.

  • Chas Groves The Ancient Gooner

    Keep the banner wording simple. Like;


  • Ray from Norfolk, Virginia

    (cannon top part) Welcome to Arsene Wenger Stadium (cannon top part)
    (cannon bottom part) Arsenal: Class is permanent (cannon bottom part)
    Victoria Concordia Crescit – Untold Arsenal

    And the picture of the Boss at the right.

  • Gooner S


    Pretty sure that there is already a “Class is permanent banner”. Might be mistaken.

  • Gooner S

    Loads here

    The parked buses banner though witty doesn’t do it for me. Prefer it to be a quote.

  • Micheal Ram

    Welcome to Arsene Football Club, since 30 September 1998.

  • Omsin_The_Legend

    I would love a banner that hasnt nothing to do with another clubs. AT arsenal, we are bigger than that. A banner to support our arsenal and Arsene Wenger…

  • Blacksheep63

    thanks, all ideas noted and thanks also to those of you that have emailed me directly, I will be in touch

  • Omsin_The_Legend

    *that has ….

  • Laughing Lizard

    @Michael Ram, seriously dislike your idea. Arsenal have a proud history and I don’t see why we have to pretend we suddenly came into being in 1998. Shall we just scrub out all our successes before the arrival of Arsene Wenger? I think not.

  • Patrick Harrington

    Arsene Football Club? Why not go the whole hog and piss on the graves of all those who made the club what it is?

  • Lanz

    Blacksheep, I hope you haven’t yet signed off. Two thoughts:
    1. Wenger: football panache with prudence!
    2. Wengerball: style and sense since ’96!

  • Brickfields Gunners

    ‘ Arsenal , Arsene Wenger and Untold Arsenal – Joy for all !’

    And tweaking Micheal Ram’s suggestion, ‘ In Arsene Heaven since 30th.Sept 1998 .’

    Those who wish to commemorate their heroes of long past can collect funds for their own posters , rather that put down others suggestions for a Arsene , Arsenal and Untold Arsenal trinity .

  • Brickfields Gunners

    By the way , I have promised to put up 25 Pounds towards the banners . Just saying .
    You know –

  • Brickfields Gunners

    A guy took his blonde girlfriend to her first football game. They had great seats right behind their team’s bench. After the game, he asked her how she liked the experience.
    “Oh, I really liked it,” she replied, “especially the tight pants and all the big muscles, but I just couldn’t understand why they were killing each other over 25 cents.”
    Dumbfounded, her date asked, “What do you mean?”
    “Well, they flipped a coin, one team got it, and then for the rest of the game, all they kept screaming was, ‘Get the quarterback! Get the quarterback!’ I’m like, hello? It’s only 25 cents!”

  • Brickfields Gunners

    Lost in translation –

    A blonde, wanting to earn some money, decided to hire herself out as a handyman-type and started canvassing a wealthy neighborhood. She went to the front door of the first house and asked the owner if he had any jobs for her to do. “Well, you can paint my porch. How much will you charge?” The blonde said, “How about 50 dollars?”

    The man agreed and told her that the paint and ladders that she might need were in the garage. The man’s wife, inside the house, heard the conversation and said to her husband, “Does she realize that the porch goes all the way around the house?” The man replied, “She should. She was standing on the porch.”

    A short time later, the blonde came to the door to collect her money. “You’re finished already?” he asked.
    “Yes,” the blonde answered, “and I had paint left over, so I gave it two coats. “Impressed, the man reached in his pocket for the $50. “And by the way,” the blonde added, “that’s not a Porch, it’s a Ferrari.”