By Bulldog Drummond
This is part two of our preview – for the team and the earlier bits please click here.
Hull City caretaker manager Mike Phelan has not got too carried away with his opening results, saying, “There is a bit of belief now and hopefully we can cement our place outside the bottom area of the league.
“If you get in that area it can be difficult, so we have to be in the frame of mind that we can go to the next level. Arsenal are a fabulous team with a certain way of playing football and they challenge you all of the time in different areas of the field.
“We’ve conducted ourselves really well so far and we’ll be up for this challenge.”
So far Hull have indeed conducted themselves well, having beaten Leicester and Swansea in the league, and beaten Exeter in the League Cup. After that they lost 0-1 to Man U and drew with Burnley.
Thus they are capable of playing well – but they are still a club in chaos, and although willpower and determination can see them through, everyone will have seen that opening day victory over Leicester, and realised you don’t just have to turn up to beat Hull.
As BBC Sport points out, it is 101 years since Hull’s only home league win over Arsenal. But as we all remember they did turn us over in September 2008.
Thus the head to head is rather dull and repetitive – Hull have only taken only taken one point from seven Premier League games against Arsenal since beating us on that date. Which leads to the almighty factoid that Arsenal could become the first away side to win six competitive matches at Hull’s KCOM Stadium.
But they will be geared up even beyond the knowledge of his long run of no victories at home. We’ve played them three years running in the FA Cup and (eventually) won each time. However this is not a match that necessarily grabs attention. On 4 January 2015 Arsenal’s lowest home attendance of the season – 59,439 – came to see the two finalists of the FA Cup in 2013/14 start off their FA Cup journeys again. It ended Arsenal 2 Hull 0. Mertesacker and Alexis scored.
So I’ve given you loads of clues, and now I present the competition.
Here’s some other Hull / Arsenal event dates. Have you got even the slightest idea what each event was? Don’t worry if not, because the answers are below, so you can cheat as much as you like.
- 11 January 1908:
- 16 January 1908:
- 2 April 1915:
- 22 March 1930:
- 26 March 1930:
- 26 June 1970:
- 27 September 2008:
- 26 December 2008:
- 17 March 2009:
- 22 May 2009:
- 13 March 2010:
- 15 March 2010:
- 18 October 2010:
- 19 August 2011:
- 25 March 2013:
- 20 April 2014:
- 17 May 2014:
- 4 August 2015:
Back to reality
Arsenal are undefeated in 13 of their last 14 matches in the Premier League.
Hull’s tally seven points from four equals their best start after four games of a top-flight season, first set in 2008-09. They are also the first Premier League team to have an unchanged line-up for the opening four games since Newcastle in 2010.
However their last three games have all been goalless at half-time and featured a goal in the 90th minute or later. However however Arsenal have been winning at both half time and full time in their last three away games against Hull.
And they have faced 78 attempts on their goal, more than any other club in the division.
Arsenal are unbeaten in their last 25 Premier League games against newly-promoted sides since a defeat at QPR in March 2012 (W21, D4).
Also, it is interesting to note that Arsenal have had three PL penalties this season, one more than they did in the whole of last season. WHAT IS GOING ON?
And also also Alexis Sanchez has scored four times in as many games against Hull while Arsenal have scored at least 2 goals in 11 of their last 12 matches against Hull.
The quiz answers
11 January 1908: Arsenal v Hull City (FA Cup 1st round). It was a 0-0 draw in front of 15,000 and Hull won the replay 4-1.
16 January 1908: Hull City 4 Woolwich Arsenal 1 (FA Cup 1st round replay). Two years of reaching the semi-finals, Arsenal slipped out at the first attempt – an event which started the financial crisis of 1910. This was also the last game for William Garbutt – the Arsenal man who took football to Italy, winning the league there three times and doing the same in Spain.
2 April 1915: Hull 1 Arsenal 0. Last game for George Grant. Born in Plumstead he came from Invicta in Dartford and moved on to Millwall.
22 March 1930: Hull City 2 Arsenal 2. FA Cup semi final. Jack and Bastin got Arsenal’s goals. 47549 turned up for the game played at Leeds’ Elland Road ground.
26 March 1930: Hull City 0 Arsenal 1. FA Cup semi final replay. David Jack scored the goal at Villa Park which took Arsenal to their second final and ultimately their first major trophy.
26 June 1970: Terry Neill joined Hull as player manager. He was at the 2014 FA Cup final between Arsenal and Hull as a man with connections with both sides and gave a half-time interview pitchside which he hopefully subsequently regretted.
27 September 2008: After three wins in which Arsenal had scored a total of ten goals, Arsenal were unbelievably beaten 1-2 by Hull in their second defeat in the Emirates. The Arsenal goal came from McShane who turned it into his own net.
26 December 2008: Phil Brown of Hull (later to accuse Arsenal of Fabregas of spitting and wearing inappropriate clothes while not in the team) showed an early version of his eccentricity by holding his half time team talk on the pitch. It was widely condemned in the media
17 March 2009: Arsenal 2 Hull 1 FA Cup 6th round. Hull made their wild allegations about assault and of Fabregas being wrongly dressed, after the game. All allegations were thrown out and the Hull manager later lost his job.
22 May 2009: After Hull accused Fabregas of spitting, being improperly dressed, illegally entering the field of play after the match was over, and Arsène Wenger of not shaking hands, Arsenal were cleared on all counts at a hearing.
13 March 2010: Hull 1 Arsenal 2 turned out to be last game for Hull’s manager Phil Brown who had launched bizarre attacks on Arsenal and Cesc Fabregas for various degrees of imagined misbehaviour.
15 March 2010: Phil Brown, the man who accused Arsenal of a wide range of fiendish maneuvers and impropriety such as having a non-playing captain improperly dressed, was dismissed by Hull City. He later managed Southend.
18 October 2010: Vito Mannone loaned to Hull for the season. His loan was then continued until 2013, at which stage he left Hull having played 31 times for the club
19 August 2011: Jay Simpson sold to Hull City. He never played for Arsenal but had successful loan spells with Millwall, WBA and QPR.
25 March 2013: After his numerous allegations against Arsenal, Phil Brown who had earlier been sacked by Hull on this day became manager of Southend. He was part of the BT Sport team for the Hull Arsenal cup game in March 2016, where he was highly complimentary of Arsene Wenger and Arsenal in general.
20 April 2014: In a match delayed by advertising hoardings blowing across the pitch, Ramsey and Özil returned after long lay-offs as Arsenal easily beat Hull away, proving if it needed proving, how important these two players were. Ramsey scored and Podolski got two.
17 May 2014: FA Cup Final – Arsenal v Hull. Arsenal equaled the all time record for most final appearances, and Arsène Wenger made it five cup wins with Arsenal. Hull took a 2-0 lead but Arsenal fought back to 3-2 with Ramsey scoring the winner. See also the hour by hour blog of the day.
4 August 2015: Chuba Akpom loaned to Hull City for the season. He played 35 times and scored three goals to help Hull to a play off place, having come fourth in the league.
A PS from Tony concerning a very special event
“Blacksheep” (not his real name) who writes occasionally for Untold, and behind the scenes helps enormously with the research projects (such as the series through the summer on the perception of Arsenal, how we might develop our dedication to evidence based football analysis), is getting married.
And he is not just getting married, he is getting married today, not too far from the Arsenal. Indeed not too far from the boating lake where my father took me each Sunday morning as a child (whether permitting), which is a nice remembrance for me. What’s more I am told the feast following the wedding has a certain Arsenal theme. Good man!
So I’m off to London, and won’t be back until whenever I recover on Sunday. However Walter has reported back in following his holiday – although it is asking rather a lot of him immediately to jump into doing all his normal post-match reporting stuff on day one of his return. Thus there may, or indeed may not, be more from Untold between now and sometimes on Sunday afternoon, whereupon I will attempt to write something.
I’m certain you will want me to convey to Blacksheep all our best wishes for today, and ever more.