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Ref Review : Man City – Arsenal: what exactly did Madley and Atkinson say to each other at half time?

MANCHESTER CITY vs. ARSENAL

  • COMPETITION: English Premier League
  • MATCH NO. 17
  • DATE: 18th December 2016
  • VENUE: Etihad Stadium (Manchester, England)

MATCH OFFICIALS:

REFEREE: Martin Atkinson
1st LINESMAN: Gary Beswick
2nd LINESMAN: Adam Nunn
4th OFFICIAL: Robert Madley

First Half

Fouls, Advantages, Cards, and Penalties

Time Foul by Foul For Description & Decision Points
02:38 Kevin De Bruyne (Man City) Francis Coquelin (Arsenal) No correct live angle shown, assumed correct.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
05:21 Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Nicolas Otamendi (Man City) Sanchez charged down Otamendi from the side.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)
09:18 Laurent Koscienly (Arsenal) Raheem Sterling (Man City) Koscienly brought down Sterling with a light sliding tackle.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)

 

13:27 Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Aleksander Kolarov (Man City) Walcott tripped Kolarov from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)
16:32 Yaya Touré (Man City Francis Coquelin (Arsenal) Touré made a sliding tackle from the front but Coquelin slightly avoided it and moved forward.

CORRECT ADVANTAGE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL.

1 (ADVANTAGE)
25:35 Granit Xhaka (Arsenal) David Silva (Man City) Xhaka tripped Silva from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)
31:09 Aleksander Kolarov (Man City) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Kolarov tripped Sanchez but Arsenal kept attacking forward.

CORRECT ADVANTAGE PLAYED FOR ARSENAL.

1 (ADVANTAGE)
32:25 David Silva (Man City) Granit Xhaka (Arsenal) Silva brought down Xhaka with a slightly high foot.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)

 

34:33 Hector Bellerin (Arsenal) Kevin De Bruyne (Man City) No replays of the incident were shown. The live footage is not conclusive enough as to whether Bellerin pulled De Bruyne or whether De Bruyne embraced Bellerin from the front. The referee’s on field decision stands.

CORRECT NON-PENALTY FOR ARSENAL.

3 (NON-PENALTY)
37:14 David Silva (Man City) Francis Coquelin (Arsenal) Silva tripped down Coquelin when Arsenal were on the counter attack.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST SILVA.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

 

39:18 Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Nicolas Otamendi (Man City) Alexis jumps up cleanly and then when being in the air comes in to contact with the City player who also didn’t avoid the contact. The city player using his arm to make contact against the back of Alexis. Just a coming together.

WRONG FOUL AGAINST ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)
40:42 Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Nicolas Otamendi (Man City) Sanchez slightly tripped Otamendi from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

-1 (FOUL)
45:48 Francis Coquelin (Arsenal) Toure’s pass struck the outstretched hand of Coquelin inside the center of the field.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)
   
Number of Correct Fouls for Arsenal – 4

Number of Correct Fouls for Manchester City – 5

Total Number of Correct Fouls – 9 [9 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Arsenal – 1

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Fouls – 1 [1 points]

 

Number of Correct Advantages for Arsenal – 2

Number of Correct Advantages for Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Correct Advantages – 2 [2 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Advantages against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Advantages against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Advantages – 0

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Arsenal – 1

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Correct Yellow Cards – 1 [2 points]

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards – 0

 

Number of Correct Penalties for Arsenal – 1

Number of Correct Penalties for Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Correct Penalties – 1 [3 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Penalties against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Penalties against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Penalties – 0

 

Offsides

Time Player Offside Defending Player Description & Decision Points
10:19 Yaya Touré (Man City) Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) Touré was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Gary Beswick made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR ARSENAL.

1 (OFFSIDE)
29:09 David Silva (Man City) Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) Silva was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Gary Beswick made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR ARSENAL.

1 (OFFSIDE)
31:25 Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Nicolas Otamendi (Man City) Walcott was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Adam Nunn failed to make the correct call.

NO OFFSIDE FOR MAN CITY.

-1 (OFFSIDE)
43:53 Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Aleksander Kolarov (Man City) Monreal was in an offside position. Assistant Referee Adam Nunn made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR MAN CITY.

1 (OFFSIDE)
Number of Correct Offsides for Arsenal – 2

Number of Correct Offsides for Manchester City – 1

Total Number of Correct Offsides – 3 [3 points]

Number of Incorrect Offsides against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Offsides against Manchester City –  1

Total Number of Incorrect Offsides – 1 [1 points]

 

Goals

Time Goal Scorer Description & Decision Points
04:06 Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Clean goal.

CORRECT GOAL FOR ARSENAL.

3 (GOAL)
Number of Correct Goals for Arsenal – 1

Number of Correct Goals for Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Correct Goals – 1 [3 points]

Number of Incorrect Goals against Arsenal – 0

Number of Incorrect Goals against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Goals – 0

 

Goal Kicks, Corners, and Throw-ins

Time Type Last Touch OFF Description & Decision

 

Other

Time Type Description & Decision Points

 

First Half Referee Report

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Arsenal – 4+2+1+1+2+1 = 11

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Manchester City – 5+1 = 6

Total Number of Correct Decisions = 11 + 6 = 17

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Arsenal – 4+2+2+3+2+3 = 16

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Manchester City – 5+1 = 6

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) = 16 + 6 = 22

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Arsenal – 1

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Manchester City – 1

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions = 1 + 1 = 2

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Arsenal – 1

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Manchester City –  1

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) = 1 + 1 = 2

 

 

 

First Half Correct Decision Percentage = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 17/(17+2) = 89.4%

 

 

First Half Correct Decision Percentage (WEIGHTED) = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 22/(22+2) = 91.6%

 

 

Second Half

Fouls, Advantages, Cards, and Penalties

Time Foul by Foul For Description & Decision Points
48:22 Bacary Sagna (Man City) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Sagna came in with a leading arm while challenging for a header. This was reckless play from Sagna on Monreal.

NO FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

NO YELLOW CARD AGAINST SAGNA.

-1 (FOUL)

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

50:01 Yaya Touré (Man City) Touré strongly protested and showed dissent against the referee.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST TOURE.

2 (YELLOW CARD)

 

53:31 Raheem Sterling (Man City) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Sterling tripped Monreal from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
75:21 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Raheem Sterling (Man City) Ozil tripped Sterling from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)

 

77:20 Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) Kevin De Bruyne (Man City) Gabriel brought down De Bruyne with a late standing tackle.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)
78:51 Gael Clichy (Man City) Theo Walcott (Arsenal) Clichy pushed Walcott from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
79:13 Kevin De Bruyne (Man City) Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) A tackle from behind that can endanger the opponent, strictly following the rulebook a red card can be given, came from behind with both feet in the tackle but certainly not as bad as the Aguero tackle at the same place against Chelsea. But as the law makers said that flying tackles from behind should be red card this was an example and so should have been a red card. The referee gave a lesser punishment and failed to give a red card.

15. De Bruyne Red Card

15. De Bruyne Red Card002

 

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

WRONG YELLOW CARD AGAINST DE BRUYNE.

NO RED CARD AGAINST DE BRUYNE.

1 (FOUL)

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

-3 (RED CARD)

82:37 Raheem Sterling (Man City) Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Sterling used his arms to deliberately stop Sanchez from running forward. This should have been a foul for Arsenal but was not given. This also should have been a yellow card but was not given.

 

NO FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

NO YELLOW CARD AGAINST STERLING.

-1 (FOUL)

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

83:29 Kelechi Iheanacho (Man City) Laurent Koscienly (Arsenal) Iheanacho pushed Koscienly in the back.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
85:29 Nicolas Otamendi (Man City) Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) Otamendi was late in his standing tackle and brought down Ozil.

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

1 (FOUL)
87:00 Mohamed El Nenny (Arsenal) Fernando (Man City) El Nenny made a light but very late sliding tackle on Fernando.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST EL NENNY.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

88:49 Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Jesus Navas (Man City) Monreal tripped Navas from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)

 

90:39 Hector Bellerin (Arsenal) Raheem Sterling (Man City) Sterling was pushed by Bellerin from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

1 (FOUL)
92:54 Gabriel Paulista (Arsenal) David Silva (Man City) Gabriel committed an attack breaking foul by charging down Silva from behind.

CORRECT FOUL FOR MAN CITY.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST GABRIEL.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

94:04 Fernando (Man City)

Raheem Sterling (Man City)

 

Hector Bellerin (Arsenal) Fernando pulled Bellerin from behind by the shirt, to stop Arsenal’s attack and was correctly given a yellow card.

 

But after the foul Sterling came running from behind and swung his arm behind the head of Bellerin. This was clear reckless play from Sterling. This should have been a second yellow card against Sterling which means that he should have been sent off.

 

CORRECT FOUL FOR ARSENAL.

CORRECT YELLOW CARD AGAINST FERNANDO. NO YELLOW CARD AGAINST STERLING.

NO RED CARD AGAINST STERLING.

1 (FOUL)

2 (YELLOW CARD)

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

-3 (RED CARD)

94:11 Yaya Touré (Man City) Touré deliberately kicked the ball away from Arsenal when the players were looking to take the free kick. This was a clear act to delay the restart of play. This should have been a yellow card against Touré which means that this should have been his second yellow card and he should have been sent off.  

 

NO YELLOW CARD AGAINST TOURE.

NO RED CARD AGAINST TOURE.

-2 (YELLOW CARD)

-3 (RED CARD)

Number of Correct Fouls for Arsenal – 6

Number of Correct Fouls for Manchester City – 6

Total Number of Correct Fouls – 12 [12 points]

 

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Arsenal – 2

Number of Incorrect Fouls against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Fouls – 2 [2 points]

 

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Arsenal – 2

Number of Correct Yellow Cards for Manchester City – 2

Total Number of Correct Yellow Cards – 4 [8 points]

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Arsenal – 4

Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards against Manchester City – 1

Total Number of Incorrect Yellow Cards – 5 [10 points]

 

Number of Correct Red Cards for Arsenal – 0

Number of Correct Red Cards for Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Correct Red Cards – 0

 

Number of Incorrect Red Cards against Arsenal – 3

Number of Incorrect Red Cards against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Red Cards – 3 [9 points]

 

Offsides

Time Player Offside Defending Player Description & Decision Points
46:47 Leroy Sane (Man City) Laurent Koscienly (Arsenal) Sane was just in an offside position. Assistant Referee Adam Nunn failed to make the correct call.

10. Sane Offside Goal

10. Sane Offside Goal002

10. Sane Offside goal003

 

NO OFFSIDE FOR ARSENAL.

-1 (OFFSIDE)
47:39 ??? (Man City) ??? (Arsenal) No replay or live footage shown. Assistant Referee Adam Nunn made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR ARSENAL.

1 (OFFSIDE)
59:30 Bacary Sagna (Man City) Nacho Monreal (Arsenal) Sagna was not in an offside position. Assistant Referee Adam Nunn made the wrong decision.

WRONG OFFSIDE AGAINST MAN CITY.

-1 (OFFSIDE)
65:45 Leroy Sane (Man City) Laurent Koscienly (Arsenal) Sane was just in an offside position. Assistant Referee Adam Nunn made the correct call

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR ARSENAL.

1 (OFFSIDE)
79:57 Olivier Giroud (Arsenal) Aleksander Kolarov (Man City) No replay or correct angle shown. Assistant Referee Gary Beswick made the correct call.

CORRECT OFFSIDE FOR MAN CITY.

1 (OFFSIDE)
Number of Correct Offsides for Arsenal – 2

Number of Correct Offsides for Manchester City – 1

Total Number of Correct Offsides – 3 [3 points]

Number of Incorrect Offsides against Arsenal – 1

Number of Incorrect Offsides against Manchester City – 1

Total Number of Incorrect Offsides –  2 [2 points]

 

Goals

Time Goal Scorer Description & Decision Points
46:51 Leroy Sane (Man City) Sane was in an offside position and went on to score the goal. This goal should not have been allowed.

10. Sane Offside Goal

10. Sane Offside Goal002

10. Sane Offside goal003

 

WRONG GOAL AGAINST ARSENAL.

-3 (GOAL)
70:59 Raheem Sterling (Man City) Silva was offside but he was a 2-3 meters away from where the ball went past Cech at the other side of the keeper so he was not interfering. Clean goal.

CORRECT GOAL FOR MAN CITY.

3 (GOAL)
Number of Correct Goals for Arsenal – 0

Number of Correct Goals for Manchester City – 1

Total Number of Correct Goals – 1 [3 points]

Number of Incorrect Goals against Arsenal – 1

Number of Incorrect Goals against Manchester City – 0

Total Number of Incorrect Goals – 1 [3 points]


Goal Kicks, Corners, and Throw-ins

Time Type Last Touch OFF Description & Decision


Other

Time Type Description & Decision Points

 

Second Half Referee Report

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Arsenal – 6+2+2 = 10

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Manchester City – 6+2+1+1 = 10

Total Number of Correct Decisions = 10 + 10 = 20

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Arsenal – 6+4+2 = 12

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Manchester City – 6+4+1+3 = 14

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) = 12 + 14 = 26

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Arsenal – 2+4+3+1+1 = 11

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Manchester City – 1+1 =2

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions = 11 + 2 = 13

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Arsenal – 2+8+6+1+3 = 20

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Manchester City – 2+1 = 3

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) = 20 + 3 = 23

 

 

 

Second Half Correct Decision Percentage = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 20/(20+13) = 60.6%

 

 

Second Half Correct Decision Percentage (WEIGHTED) = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 26/(26+23) = 53.0%

 

 

Full Time (1st Half + 2nd Half) Referee Report

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Arsenal – 11+10 = 21

Total Number of Correct Decisions for Manchester City – 6+10 = 16

Total Number of Correct Decisions = 21 + 16 = 37

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Arsenal – 16+12 = 28

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) for Manchester City – 6+14 = 20

Total Number of Correct Decisions (Weighted) = 28 + 20 = 48

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Arsenal – 1+11 = 12

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions against Manchester City – 1+2 = 3

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions = 12 + 3 = 15

 

AFTER POINTS HAVE BEEN WEIGHTED

 

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Arsenal – 1+20 = 21

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) against Manchester City – 1+3 = 4

Total Number of Incorrect Decisions (Weighted) = 21 + 4 = 25

 

 

 

Full Match Correct Decision Percentage = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 37/(37+15) = 71.1%

 

 

Full Match Correct Decision Percentage (WEIGHTED) = Total Correct Decisions / Total Decisions (Correct + Incorrect) = 48/(48+25) = 65.7%

 

 

APPENDIX

Key Decisions in the Match Points
Advantage 1
Foul 1
Incorrect Corner 1
Incorrect Goal Kick 1
Incorrect Throw-in 1
Other (Ref Positioning, Injuries, Time Wasting, etc.) 1
Offside 1
Yellow Card 2
Red Card 3
Goal 3
Penalty 3

 

NOTE: FOR ANY WRONG DECISION MADE THERE WILL BE NEGATIVE POINTS AWARDED FOR THAT SPECIFIC KIND OF EVENT.

NOTE: ANY INCORRECT OR WRONG DECISION/NON-DECISION WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED WITH A RED COLOUR.

NOTE: ANY DECISION THAT INVOLVES DOUBT IS HIGHLIGHTED AS BLUE IN COLOR.

NOTE: The word ‘FOR’ is used to show IN FAVOR OF.

NOTE: All the Laws Of The Game used are referenced directly from the following link. “LAWS OF THE GAME 2016-2017”

http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/60/Laws%20of%20the%20Game_16-17_Digital_Eng.pdf

Martin Atkinson was the ref for this match. The last time we had him in this fixture a lot of errors were made on offside decisions, costing Arsenal 2 goals in their favour and one against City that was wrongly given. The final score then was 6-3 and with the decisions being correct that might have been different.

This time no really controversial decisions in the opening half hour. The Arsenal goal was within the laws of the game and the foul calling was correct. Then assistant Dunn stepped up to enter the spotlight. First he judged an offside position from Walcott wrongly, but nothing came from it.

Then there was an incident where Bellerin seemd to embrace De Bruyne who was leaning against Bellerin in the Arsenal penalty area. But as no replays were shown and no close up was shown (that we could find anyway) we will have to agree with the decision of the ref on the field to not give a penalty against Arsenal when De Bruyne went down.  Then Alexis was punished for going in an aerial duel and it seems to be an unwritten rule that when Alexis jumps for a header anywhere on the field a foul should be given against him. This could be seen in the last 4-5 matches each time again.

The first half was 89.4% and 91.6% (Weighted) That is an excellent score!

In the second half it all went wrong. Again assistant Dunn made a wrong decision by not flagging offside against Sane who scored the equaliser after a few minutes in the second half. The first real chance for City in the whole match up to then. The goal should have been cancelled. 

Here you can see a picture that zooms in on the position of the Man City player and the last Arsenal defender on the moment of the pass.

Then Sagna came in leading with the arm towards Monreal and no foul or yellow card was given. Then the same assistant again made a wrong decision by flagging Sagna offside when he was once again badly placed to make a good call.

The second goal from City was okay for the referee team. Silva was offside but as the shot went past Cech on his left side and Silva was on his right side some 3 meters away from the ball it doesn’t matter if he stuck out a foot anticipating a fluked shot from Sterling. He was too far off the ball to be involved. So no problem with the second goal from City that should have been the first.

Then the old Atkinson came above water. De Bruyne with a two footed tackle from behind on Gabriel escaped a red card. He came in jumping from behind with his two feet from the ground and completely took out Gabriel from behind. Hello, when again did FIFA declared we should get rid of such dangerous tackles from behind? Too long ago for Atkinson I think.

Sterling making an off the ball foul by sticking out his arm to stop Alexis from running forward was another not given foul and a yellow card as the arm was at face height and the ball was nowhere near.

In the last seconds we saw another poor number of decisions. Bellerin was clearly pulled back by Fernando and the ref gave a foul. Fernando then also ran away with the ball after the whistle, Touré kicked it even further away when Arsenal players quickly tried to grab the ball. Sterling again used his arm around the neck of Bellerin after the whistle and only Fernando was given a yellow card for his foul and time wasting.

With the ball then being kicked forward some 15 meters by City Özil didn’t put the ball in the right place according to Atkinson… completely ignoring the time wasting antics and sub in extra time Atkinson blew his whistle when Özil wanted to deliver the free kick. I think Atkinson had nightmares of a certain match involving Leicester and Arsenal in the back of his head and didn’t want an Arsenal goal from the free kick.  That was poor game management from the ref.

Anyway the score in the second half was only 60.6% and 53.0% (Weighted) Very Poor. Very poor indeed.

Over the whole 90 minutes the score was  71.1% and 65.7% (Weighted) Below Average.

There was only one major correct decision: the Non-Penalty for Arsenal, which is put in blue.

There were four wrong major decisions. 1 Offside goal against Arsenal. 1 Red Card not given against De Bruyne. 1 Second yellow card not given against Sterling. 1 Second yellow not given against Toure.

Linesman Adam Nunn had a very poor game judging 3 wrong offsides, 1 which cost us the goal. By the time of writing this, it was him who failed to give offside on the Mkhitaryan ‘wonder’ goal.

The two failed second yellow cards of Sterling and Toure don’t really affect the potential result of the match as it was in the very last kick of the match. But wrong goal against Arsenal and the failure to send off De Bruyne easily cost us  points.

Another strange fact the bias score. At the end of the first half we counted 2 wrong decisions and both team suffering one each. In the second half the errors suddenly went up and he managed to make 13 mistakes. 11 against Arsenal and 2 against City. I would have loved to hear what Madley and Atkinson said to each other at half time….

Untold Arsenal: 

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27 comments to Ref Review : Man City – Arsenal: what exactly did Madley and Atkinson say to each other at half time?

  • Well, English refs at their best-at least when officiating games involving arsenal. Sick of the incompetent lot.

  • Mandy Dodd

    As many have said, Atkinson should not be refereeing Arsenal games.
    Anyone else notice a difference in the refereeing we get, and that handed out to our neighbours?

  • Andrew Crawshaw

    I’ll wager that had either of the City goals been Arsenal they would both have been flagged offside.

  • Florian

    Re the incident at 34:33: There is indeed no close-up replay on the TV stream. I replayed my recording, and the best I can see is Bellerin embracing de Bruyne indeed, but the the City player falls down without any sign of shirt being pulled, so my vote goes to the correct non-penalty decision.

    Alexis seems to have a habit of mistiming his aerial jumps, in an attempt to outmaneuver his opponents. Apparently the incompetents at the whistle think this is incorrect on the basis that it keeps the opponent from playing the ball. Hello PiGMOB, Alexis is focused on the ball. Compare that to Sterling’s flailing arms.

  • mm

    How embarrassing for you. A proper Rafa Benitez moment if ever there was one. You missed the biggest stat of all. You were outclassed for 80 minutes. You were lucky you only lost by one. City scored two perfectly good goals. Everybody thinks so except you bitter gooners. That photo of Sane’s toe being miles off would have more credence if we could actually see the ball being passed in the same frame.
    If the ref had sent De Bruyne, Sterling, Toure and Fernandinho off, City would still have won. You were that bad.

  • MickHazel

    Whilst on the subject of refs, Clattenburg wins award as worlds best.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/28/mark-clattenburg-named-best-referee-world/

    No it isn’t April fools day.

  • Gord

    Maybe Clattenburg is best in the world at something (else), and just happens to be a referee?

  • Gord

    Nice story about a 94 year old Gooner, who has long been unable to watch games in person due to too many stairs to climb (and possibly falling). And she thinks Arsenal pass the ball too much. 🙂

    http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/lifelong_arsenal_fan_phyllis_96_finally_sees_her_team_in_action_and_wins_her_bet_1_4833327

    I’m glad she enjoyed the game, and Giroud scoring the winner.

  • WalterBroeckx

    mm, outclassed by City for 45 minutes in which they could hardly manage to get a shot on goal in the first 45 minutes?
    We were only outclassed after City scored the first goal. That was a turning point as it gave City believe and after that you were the better team. Before that you were toothless. We defended without conceding chances. I think against Chelsea you had more and better chances than against us.

    And as we do this kind of reviewing for 6 or 7 seasons (lost count) we know what we are talking about. You clearly don’t.

    And offside is offside. With a toe or with the whole body. And if you would take your blinkers off you should have noticed that we also mention decisions where Arsenal was getting lucky with the bad refereeing.

    And in fact how we played has nothing to do with the referee performance.

  • Florian

    mm,

    “If the ref had sent De Bruyne, Sterling, Toure and Fernandinho off, City would still have won.” I challenge you to prove your assertion.

    “City scored two perfectly good goals. Everybody thinks so except you bitter gooners.” Actually, it’s us and NBC Sports too. Or Sky, or whoever drew that line that demonstrated that Sane was offside when the ball got passed to him. Or are you going to tell us that the offside rules have been modified at half time? And I really don’t understand what you mean by “in the same frame”. Which part of the ball is obscured in the videos linked in the review? I can clearly see the offside and the ball in the third clip. I’d suggest you quit being selectively blind – to give you the benefit of the doubt over you thinking we’re all stupid here.

  • OlegYch

    mm, the picture is taken from the video on which you could see the moment of the pass and the line drawn at that time
    have you ever thought that maybe someone would appear to be outclassed when the ref is playing against them?

  • WalterBroeckx

    As I was working on the Everton referee review also I had mixed up some names in the title but corrected it now. That is for those who saw the first headline.

  • John L.

    The competence of referees is not the issue. The real concern is their bias.

  • porter

    When the crowd sing “” you don’t know what your doing “”it’s potentially as far wrong as they can get . I am convinced that they know precisely what they are up to.
    What bothers me is why ,

  • para

    They (refs and co)also have no shame at being discovered and shown up because the decisions will not be reversed.

    We really need a Ref league table that demotes and promotes refs like teams, depending on the end of season results. In fact i cannot innerstand why there is none, seems a good idea to me.

    Arsenal seem to have no power or ability to ask questions about the refs(i know the penalty is fines; for the most silly things) but enough has to be enough.

    I will dare to say that “PL is supposedly the best league” but only because the football is manipulated through the refs by people unknown and the video editing hardly resembles all events on the field.

    TV and betting and the PGMO; 3 birds of a feather here!

  • Menace

    porter – I usually chant ‘cheating lying bastard’ when the ‘you don’t know what you’re doing’ chant is on. The pictures shows a very important PGMOL assistant in the wrong place because he is not keeping up with last defender. The assistant should raise his flag for ‘offside position’ & the referee makes the active call. The assistant cannot evade his responsibilities of ‘offside position’. The flag is only an indicator not as final as the whistle. When the flag has not been raised for a player more than a meter off side, it beggars the question of what makes him ‘select’.

  • Leon

    The picture (above in Walter’s report) is really inconclusive and proves nothing on it’s own.Where’s the ball? Has it just been released by de Bruyne?
    I didn’t see this match but did see some pictures elsewhere which showed a much larger overall view of this moment and although none that I’ve seen has been able to provide one from exactly in line with Mane while also showing the pass, they do suggest that he was just offside but not by very much (less than it looks in Walter’s picture). Still, as they say: “an inch is as good as a mile.”
    This looks to me like a situation where the officials gave advantage to the attacking player.

  • Leon

    Sane, not Mane

  • ARSENAL 13

    “Then Alexis was punished for going in an aerial duel and it seems to be an unwritten rule that when Alexis jumps for a header anywhere on the field a foul should be given against him.”

    This seems to be the theme. Alexis jumps. The opponents stay on their feet and bow down. Alexis falls down and a foul is called against him. Wonder how these referees give it. If at all a player is in danger it will be Alexis.

  • Menace

    Leon – officials? Look at the assistant referees position. His flag should have gone up were he in line with the last defender on both occasions.

    Arsenal 13 – our view in India must be different as the time lag warps the TV image!

  • Leon

    Menace—-I don’t see any officials in the picture on the review above, just three Arsenal defenders & two City forwards.You must be using another one, probably the expanded one that I’ve seen somewhere else (Arseblog?) which shows the ball (essential) and the position of the lino. I’m sure that Sane was less offside than he looks in Walter & Usama’s picture, but offside none the less.
    I still think that Silva made a definite attempt to play the ball on the second goal even though he was about ten feet away, which makes him offside for me, but I’ll defer to Walters expertise on that one.

  • finsbury

    Fantastic trolling!
    Comment on a blow up whilst ignoring the three gif links!!

    Genius is an understatement!!!

  • finsbury

    Unfortunately when we saw the appointments for this match it was possible for me to publish a comment elsewhere before kick off anticipating an offside goal for City.

    pgMOB Rules (ok?) football.
    It’s football, just not association football as you know it. As testified by England’s recent performances against Iceland, Costa Rica, Ecuador etc.

  • bjtgooner

    I don’t see how anyone can argue that Sane was not offside, only idiots or trolls could try that one. In real time the offside was very clear – for reasons unknown the flag was not raised.

    I agree Atkinson was appalling – unfortunately “appalling” is as good as he gets – this particular bandit in black, along with most of his colleagues, are not fit for purpose.

    Having said that, our performance was not good, if we want to win the league we need to do a lot better!

  • Menace

    What is amazing is an individual caught with his hands in the cookie jar ( agreed terms to part ways 😉 😉 ) is immediately employed. Is there no moral code in football? I guess not. The PGMOL are not touched by anyone yet. They have a selection system that choose the chocolates from the Quality Street – only hard toffee accepted.

  • Leon

    Ah! The links! Didn’t see the links. Much clearer now. Still very close call.