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Arrogance, amnesia and assumptions: how the football media deals with Liverpool

An Untold exclusive interview.

Jürgen: Hans, Hans, have you heard, I have a new job – a really important football job in England!

Hans: Wonderful Jürgen, which TV station are you working for?

Jürgen: Don’t be silly!  I’ve got a job as a manager.  Manager of Liverpool! no less.

Hans: Sorry I thought you said you had an important job.

Jürgen: Of course it is important.   They are a big team.  So big that every time people say their name they put an exclamation mark after it.

Hans: Quite true Jürgen but that is for the concept of the team, not for the manager.   Liverpool! is seen as a British institution, one that can never be criticised and never harmed and never touched.

Jürgen: You mean like the British “bobby” on the beat.

Hans: British policemen are not called “bobbies” any more Jürgen, you really must try and get up to date.  Here’s how it goes.   In 1985, 39 people died in crowd trouble caused by Liverpool! fans, and the primary blame was put on the state of the ground.  No one blamed Uefa who selected a ground that was totally unfit for purpose and no one blamed the ! fans.  In April 1989, 96 people died at a match involving Liverpool.   There was quite rightly no blame attached to any Liverpool fans (apart from by the Sun newspaper, which always gets everything wrong, as part of their remit) and ultimately the police were blamed for a cover up.  The FA, who organised the match and approved the stadium were never blamed, and the Sun remains the most purchased daily newspaper in Britain.

Jürgen: This makes no sense at all.

Hans: Now you are getting it.  None of this makes any sense at all.  You are going to get slaughtered.

Jürgen: No, I am the cheerful chappie, I speak good English, I am intelligent, I have a diploma in walking from Goethe University of Frankfurt.

Hans: This is where you have got it all wrong my friend.  People with any qualifications are laughed at by the English media.  They hate intellectuals.  Look at how they hate Wenger.

Jürgen: But a diploma in walking is not intellectual.

Hans: It is to the English.

Jürgen: So why will they hate me?  Because I am German?  Are they still fighting the war?

Hans: No, no, no.  For the war they laugh at themselves – go and watch Dad’s Army.  In fact every time they mention the war they run one of these silly pictures from the show.  It is the “Three A’s”.

Jürgen: I thought the aaa was the Anti-Arsenal-Arsenal – the people who claim to be Arsenal fans but go on moaning all the time because they have the longest run in the top four of any team in England and did the only unbeaten season since the first and…

Hans: I wouldn’t say any of that when you are a manager in England, Jürgen.  There are two aaa’s.  The one you said, and the attributes of their football journalists and blogetta writers:   Arrogance, amnesia and assumptions.

Jürgen: Please explain!

Hans: OK but only if you stop using exclamation marks!  See?  You’ve got me at it.   British journalism, and the little blogs that run the 200 word articles (sometimes called the bloggettas) is written by people who know everything.  They can look at any situation for five seconds and sum it up and see it all and tell the future.  So they are arrogant.  But they generally get it 10000% wrong so they they immediately forget what they wrote before and now write the opposite – that is their amnesia.  And they make assumptions – like the fact that their readers are so dumb that they won’t remember what the stupid journalists wrote before.

Jürgen: OK I get that.  I have only had the job a little while and already they have run stories like “Liverpool have been tipped to dominate both home and abroad under Jurgen Klopp” and “Reds will dominate Premier League under Jurgen” and “Four Reasons Why Liverpool will Dominate under Klopp” and “Klopp’s Liverpool will dominate” and “Man United title winner backs Liverpool to dominate Europe” and “Liverpool will make Anfield a fortress again under Jurgen Klopp” and “Liverpool have the swagger to win the Premier League under Jurgen,” and…

Hans: Yes Jürgen I know how it goes.   But very shortly they will be running stories like “Liverpool are unbalanced and inconsistent” and “What Jurgen Klopp needs for this failing Liverpool team” and “Liverpool’s performance limp against Leicester” and “Five players Klopp must get rid of this summer” and…

Jürgen: That’s terrible!

Hans: That’s nothing.  You will then have “Klopp turns on Anfield crowd” and “Jamie Carragher highlights the mistake Jurgen Klopp is currently making…” and…

Jürgen: Carragher?  Isn’t he the Liverpool! player who threw a coin at the crowd at Arsenal, and was never banned for it, while the man who threw the coin at Carragher got a lifetime ban?”

Hans: Welcome to England Jürgen.

Jürgen: But wait a minute, supposing I can beat Arsenal in my first match at the Emirates and score lots of goals.  Won’t they love me then?

Hans: By the time the reverse match comes around in March the press will print a story such as “Can Liverpool and Arsenal provide another moment of fleeting greatness?”

Jürgen: Fleeting greatness?  In my very first season.  What do they expect?

Hans: As I said, this is Liverpool!  With an exclamation mark each time you say it.  Reality has nothing to do with anything.   I can tell you what will be happening.  The fans will be refusing to buy any newspaper which covers Scottish football…

Jürgen: Why?

Hans: Because Liverpool’s previous manager has a record of played 27, won 26, drawn 1 in his new job, and you won’t be matching that.  But try not to interrupt Jürgen, its very British, and not very nice.  By the time you get to the Arsenal match, all those headlines from before will be turned into rather nasty threats, and the Liverpool! fans will be calling radio stations demanding your departure.

Jürgen: So what will the newspapers be saying by, oh, I don’t know, 3 March 2017 for example?

Hans: “Liverpool supporters were fairly clear about what they wished for, as they are about most things. They wanted a top-drawer manager with a record of success and a definable style. Not overly impressed by the contributions of Hodgson and then Brendan Rodgers, and quite possibly spooked by how close they came to appointing Roberto Martínez, they felt a club of such stature should go for one of the big names if it wanted to restore former glories.

“Klopp definitely counted as one of those and early results were encouraging, yet after a dismal January was followed by such a limp performance against Leicester some fairly basic questions are being asked, such as why Klopp could not see that Mamadou Sakho would be a better fit at centre-half than Lucas Leiva. That boat has sailed now, of course; Sakho is playing for Crystal Palace, though only because Klopp set his face against a defender who had become popular at Anfield and happens to possess the traditional physical qualities of a centre-half.”

Jürgen: Any more?

Hans:  Here’s a few.  To make it easier I shall say them as bullet points…

  • Jurgen Klopp must spend big at Liverpool and find a ‘Graeme …
  • How two teenagers have underlined a real problem for Liverpool’s …
  • Why Klopp needs to change his Liverpool transfer policy this …
  • Liverpool fans are furious about Tenerife trip, but Klopp doesn’t get why
  • Harry Redknapp believes Liverpool are no better off under Jurgen …
  • Klopp joins Wenger under microscope as Liverpool and Arsenal …
  • Liverpool star Sadio Mane hails Jurgen Klopp for his fine start … –
  • Liverpool vs Arsenal: Reds are no better under Jurgen Klopp than they were under Rodgers
  • Liverpool are a disappointing mess under Jurgen Klopp

Jürgen: Thank you.  Can I stop this?

Hans: Yes.  Just beat Arsenal.  You might think people have turned on you at Liverpool! but that is nothing to the way they attack Mr Wenger.

Jürgen: So how do I beat Arsenal?

Hans: You haven’t met the guys at the PGMO yet have you?


 

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20 comments to Arrogance, amnesia and assumptions: how the football media deals with Liverpool

  • Saadman

    Who wrote this? This is gold

  • Billious

    What a load of cockney shite

  • Brickfields Gunners

    Nice one ! Am sure we will be seeing quite a few new visitors soon.
    English is confusing to some !
    A teacher says to his students , ” Give me opposite for this sentence , “Children in the dark make mistakes .”

    Student : ” Mistakes in the dark make children !”

  • colario

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JSahEDRjvw&t=158s

    Arsene didn’t have a shance. See around 2mins.50secs

  • Vivek Arulnathan

    This is ridiculous. Anything and everything needs to fit the agenda of Untold and their opinion that the media is against Arsenal.
    And please, do not make the deaths of fans a part of an article intended for comic relief. It’s insensitive. Just to make your point about Liverpool getting favourable treatment, there is no need to bring the deaths of fans no matter who is to blame. Given how the rest of the article is with a comic tone, it’s crass, stupid and pathetic to use those disasters.
    If you want to take the FA or anyone to task on those disasters, do it in a separate piece and with the sensitivity and respect it deserves. Would you do this if those fans were Arsenal fans?
    You might think it’s no big deal, but it’s extremely offensive in my opinion.

  • Matthew

    I think using Heysel and Hillsborough in a supposed comic article is in very bad taste.

  • Tommo

    Well done to anyone who made it through to the end of this piece.

  • thanks
    made my day.

  • Menace

    ‘aright; ‘aright, ‘aright; ‘aright, – back to Billious hubcaps.

  • Freddy Uzambiana

    This site must do more to keep KING ARSENE.

    If Alexis is leaving then AAA will have the POWER.

    You must do more – Wenger needs you

  • ossasa

    Par for the course when you see Brickfields still living in some unironic 70s sit com …. Trying to imagine how many rejections Tony has had from Private Eye.

  • Nitram

    ossasa

    Because of course comedies such as The Office, Little Britain, Catharine Tate, never put a politically correct foot out of place did they ?

    And Benidorm isn’t still flying the ‘are you being served’ camp it up flag at all, is it?

    Mark my words, these times in which you live will be judged as harshly as those that you wish to judge.

    This is and always will be the way of the World. To make critical judgements on matters of the past is always a dodgy pastime, because having not been there, context is almost impossible to apply.

    Yes, some of the comedies of the 70’s, in retrospect trod a very perilous path, but as I say, be careful how you judge for I guarantee these times in which we live, will, in 50 years time, be judged just as harshly.

  • Goonermay68

    with the lack of comments Obviously people have given reading what these old fools write about!! 💤💤💤💤💤💤 WENGER LIKE THESE TWO ARE PAST THEIR SELLBY DATE!

  • Matt Clarke

    Thanks Tony (no exclamation mark, thank you)
    Brilliant.

  • Eric

    LOL, made my day, thanks UA!

  • Brickfields Gunners

    @ colario – 03/03/2017 at 11:09 am -Great stuff,funny as hell,but oh , so truthful. Thanks.

    I like to think that think that the end of the world would come when people lose their sense of humour . When one starts to hate clowns,comedians ,70′ sitcoms , humourist and satirists !

    Mimes ? The jury is probably out on that one .I do think that generally most people hate them , or find them way too creepy . Like some posters on here .

    I would love to do a similiar piece featuring a Geordie , a Cockney , a Mancunian , a Channel Islander and without a doubt a guy from Merseyside , but will have to learn their respective languages !

    What’s that you say ? They all speak English ? Really ? Damn , you learn something new everyday !

  • Brickfields Gunners

    Service charge –

    A farmer drove to a neighbor’s farmhouse and knocked at the door. A boy, about 9, opened the door.

    “Is your dad or mom home?” said the farmer.

    “No, they went to town.”

    “How about your brother, Howard? Is he here?”

    “No, he went with Mom and Dad.”

    The farmer stood there for a few minutes, shifting from one foot to the other, mumbling to himself, when the young boy says, “I know where all the tools are, if you want to borrow one, or I can give Dad a message.”

    “Well,” said the farmer uncomfortably, “No, I really want to talk to your Dad, about your brother Howard getting my daughter Suzy pregnant!”.

    The boy thought for a moment, then said, “You’ll have to talk to my Dad about that. I know he charges $50 for the bulls and $15 for the pigs, but I have no idea how much he charges for Howard.”

  • Brickfields Gunners

    A husband and his wife are dining in a hotel.
    Husband : ” I want to tell you something .”
    Wife : ” It’s not good manners to talk when eating.”
    After eating , wife says , ” Now tell me .”
    Husband : There was a cockroach in your food !”

    Wives , listen to your husbands once in a while.

  • ossasa

    Ho ho ho My you do tell ’em.

  • Flares

    Seems like a few posters here need to fetch out the Sudocrem and treat their butthurt. Didn’t once see anything disrespectful to those who died, but it’s the height of naivety to suggest there isn’t a multitude of blogs and forums where you can read severe anti-Scouse vitriol, much of it centred around the disgusting hypocrisy the city has exhibited re: Heysel and Hillsborough. I still read content from people out there who are literally frothing at the mouth with hatred at Liverpool fans, past and present. I’m not getting into the whys and wherefores of either tragedy here, but the whole ‘Liverpool fans do nothing wrong’ line isn’t cutting it anywhere but on Merseyside.

    If Klopp wants a leg-up for todays match he could do no worse than get on the blower to OT now and ask Kevin Friend to jump in his car for double duty at Anfield. Might conveniently miss the odd tackle or elbow on an Arsenal player, or send off Alexis Sanchez by mistake. The possibilities are endless with idiocy this pronounced.