Untold Ref review: Stoke – Chelsea

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By Ref Reviewer 03

So here we have another ref review on Untold. And no Arsenal game this time. In our quest for answers for all the questions we try to do as many games as we can and here you can have a go at the Stoke City – Chelsea game of last weekend.

Ref in charge was Mark Halsey. 50 years old so another one of the old school refs one might say. Let us have a closer look at what we have seen in this game.

Min Type Foul from On C/NC Comment points weight on
3 OTHER Delap Cech C Interfering with keeper 1 1 1
3 OTHER Lampard Etherington N/C Dangerous play 0 0 1
9 OTHER Torres Begovic C Interfering with keeper 1 1 1
10 OTHER Shawcross Torres C Shawcross hacked down Torres from behind 1 1 1
10 YELLOW Shawcross C Shawcross was a bit reckless and tackled from behind.  No doubt about the yellow. 1 2 2
12 OTHER Shawcross Cech N/C Interfering with keeper 0 0 1
13 PENALTY C Kalou went to ground from very minimal contact.  Good no call by Halsey. 1 3 3
14 OTHER Shawcross Cech N/C Interfering with keeper 0 0 1
20 OTHER Terry Jones C Obstruction 1 1 1
21 OTHER Cole Etherington C Pushing 1 1 1
23 OTHER Shawcross Torres N/C Shawcross pushed Torres in the head to win a high ball 0 0 1
24 OTHER Mikel Jones N/C Tripping 0 0 1
24 OTHER Ramires Jones C Tripping – if Mikel didn’t get him, Ramires did.  Halsey should have seen the 1st trip. 1 1 1
25 OTHER Huth Torres C Holding – Huth played at RB and stopped Torres in Chelsea’s half.  I noticed two or three times a stoke defender in out of position in the opposition’s half stopping play with a foul. 1 1 1
30 OTHER Kalou Pennant C Pushing 1 1 1
32 OTHER Huth Malouda C Tripping 1 1 1
32 OTHER C Chelsea try to take a quick free kick, but Halsey stops it and correctly makes Chelsea retake the free kick from the spot of the foul. 1 1 1
34 OFFSIDE Jones C 1 1 1
36 OTHER Delap Ramires C Tripping 1 1 1
38 OTHER Ramires Wilson C Shoving 1 1 1
38 PENALTY C Stoke wanted a penalty for a handball against John Terry, but the ball appeared to hit Terry’s chest and perhaps shoulder/armpit area.  Also it was very close range, unintentional if there were any contact. Ref looked to his linesman, good no call. 1 3 3
40 OTHER Shawcross Cech C Interfering with keeper 1 1 1
40 YELLOW Shawcross N/C How many times is the ref going to let Shawcross deliberately foul the keeper on a throw-in or corner? He should book Shawcross for unsporting behaviour. 0 0 2
42 OFFSIDE Torres C 1 1 1
43 OTHER Terry Walters C Climbs over Walters to win a header.  Clear foul yet Terry moans about it. 1 1 1
45 OTHER Woodgate Torres C Holding – another example of a Stoke defender out of position,high up the pitch committing a foul in the opposition’s half.  A card might have been given here, but I’ll leave that to the ref’s discretion. 1 1 1
Half time 20 25 32
CORRECT 76,92% 78,13%
YELLOW 1 2 50,00
RED 0 0
PENALTY 2 2 100,00
GOAL 0 0
OTHER 2 2 100,00
5 6 83,33
OFFSIDE 2 2 100,00
Second half
47 OTHER Whelan Lampard C Lampard checked by Whelan 1 1 1
47 OTHER Shawcross Torres N/C Shawcross trips Torres at the edge of the box. Ref misses it. 0 0 1
47 PENALTY Shawcross Torres N/C Replays appear to show contact was made just inside the area.  It was a tough call for the ref to see if the contact was inside or outside the box, but what surprises me is that Halsey didn’t even give the free kick (outside the area). 0 0 3
52 OTHER Huth Malouda N/C Attempted trip 0 0 1
54 PENALTY C Torres threw himself to the ground after muffing his shot.  Woodgate had a hand on him but there was no contact to make Torres fall like he did. 1 3 3
55 PENALTY C Lampard gets to the ball first, but then he doubles his knee, starts going to ground, and drags his left foot, and falls into the outstretched defender Wilson’s leg.  It looked like a penalty at normal speed, but slow-motion replay showed that Lampard was already going to ground and looking for it.  Perhaps the ref didn’t think the way Lampard fell was natural, maybe he thought the defender had got a slight touch to the ball (even if he didn’t), but not giving the penalty was acceptable. 1 3 3
57 OTHER Alex Jones C Shoving 1 1 1
59 OTHER Kalou Etherington N/C Kalou barged into Etherington with his hands high, handling the ball and perhaps dislocating Etherington’s shoulder in the process. 0 0 1
59 YELLOW Kalou N/C Kalou probably should have been booked, considering he handled the ball as well. 0 0 2
59 OTHER Cole Huth N/C Ashley Cole jumps with both feet in the air diagonally across Huth in an attempt to win a 40-60 ball 0 0 1
59 YELLOW Cole N/C Cole’s challenge was dangerous and deserved a yellow card. 0 0 2
66 OTHER Cole Pennant C Nasty sliding in from the side lunge by Ashley Cole on Pennant, catching him in the boot.  Lucky for Pennant his foot was just off the ground. 1 1 1
66 YELLOW Cole C Cole deserved this yellow for this rash challenge.  He got away with one six minutes earlier, but not this time. He has the nerve to complain about it! 1 2 2
67 OTHER Huth Cech N/C Interfering with keeper during throw-in 0 0 1
68 OFFSIDE Cole C 1 1 1
73 OTHER Terry Jones N/C Terry climbed on Jones’ back to win header 0 0 1
75 OTHER Huth Anelka C Pulling 1 1 1
77 OFFSIDE Torres C 1 1 1
78 OTHER Woodgate Drogba N/C Tripping 0 0 1
79 OTHER Wilson Bosingwa C Obstruction 1 1 1
79 YELLOW Wilson C Wilson goes into the book 1 2 2
81 OTHER Pugh Ramires C Tripping 1 1 1
83 OTHER Ramires N/C Ramires barges into a Stoke player, foul not given. 0 0 1
83 OTHER Pugh Ramires N/C Pugh lunges at the ball near Ramires’ feet.  He won the ball, but crashed through Ramires with his trailing leg/hip. 0 0 1
83 RED Pugh N/C This was dangerous, reckless, and used excessive force.  Ramires could have been seriously injured. 0 0 3
83 OTHER Alex Jones N/C Alex looked to have won the ball and Jones then fell over him.  Moreover Ramires was clearly fouled hard by Pugh who should have been booked for a foul four seconds earlier. 0 0 1
87 OTHER Mikel Whitehead C Tripping 1 1 1
87 YELLOW Lampard C Dissent 1 2 2
88 OTHER Walters Cech C Interfering with keeper from throw in 1 1 1
91 OFFSIDE Anelka C 1 1 1
93 OTHER Alex N/C Slid in dangerously to win ball. Should have been a free kick to Stoke. 0 0 1
93 OTHER Woodgate Drogba C Tripping 1 1 1
95 OFFSIDE Drogba C 1 1 1
95 OTHER Cole Walters C Shoving 1 1 1
2nd half score
TOTAL 19 26 47
% CORRECT 55,88% 55,32%
YELLOW 3 5 60,00
RED 0 1 0,00
PENALTY 2 3 66,67
GOAL 0 0
OTHER 1 4 25,00
6 13 46,15
OFFSIDE 4 4 100,00
TOTAL SCORE
TOTAL 39 51 79
% CORRECT 65,00% 64,56%
YELLOW 4 7 57,14
RED 0 1 0,00
PENALTY 4 5 80,00
GOAL 0 0
OTHER 0 1 0,00
8 14 57,14
OFFSIDE 6 6 100,00
Correct calls For Stoke 11 45,83%
For Chelsea 13 54,17%
Total correct calls 24
Wrong calls Against Stoke 9 42,86%
Against Chelsea 12 57,14%
Total 23

So here we have a game of two halves if we may say so. A good first half with a score of around 80% and then suddenly his performance dropped in the second half.

Something we also could see with Walton at Newcastle. Fatigue creeping in at some stage?

Because of his bad second half he gets a low total score.

If we take a look at the wrong calls we can see that he there is not a big difference between the two teams. The lower the wrong scores against a team the better for that team and so we see a slight advantage for Stoke in this game. I think this is what one could call the home advantage and is very much in line with how one can expect the ref in being influenced by the home crowd.

Note: I (Walter Broeckx)  would like to thank our extra ref reviewer 03 for this review and the amount of work he put in to this.

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12 Replies to “Untold Ref review: Stoke – Chelsea”

  1. Fantastic! Come on Chowdhury, let’s get the site up and running so we can get these guys logging this stuff directly into a database!

    🙂

  3. I believe Pennant nicked Ashley Cole’s car, when they were both at London Colney? Previous form here perhaps?

  4. There are more of this to come Dogface. We managed to do 4 games so far and if the City game was done as agreed we should have 5 games this weekend. Don’t know if we can keep this up but we will surely try.

    Proud of my reviewers! 🙂

    I just think the “other” reviews will attract less comments in general… after all who apart from the ref reviewers would want to have a look in depth at Stoke – Chelsea… 🙂

  5. Glad to see that there is a ref review for games other than Arsenal’s. That’s gonna be good to see the tendency of refs in EPL. Too bad I’m not a ref myself. But I sometimes find easier to see something as graphics. Thus, if you guys need someone to play around with graphics to present the result, just me know.

    One question, do you collect this result in a centralized database?

  6. @Notoverthehil – Not sure if Cashley had a vendetta against Pennant but he did seem to lose control there for about 10 minutes in the 2nd half – probably he was more frustrated than anything.

  7. Another thing about this match was how much Stoke interfered with Petr Cech on set pieces. Chelsea’s new manager was quite upset about the refereeing in this regard.

  8. Anyone do Liverpool-Sunderland?

    Looked like two mighty contentious decisions in that one.

    My judgement was that Richardson’s pen was 50:50 for sending off. Looked a tangle of legs to me, so I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. But I’m not a referee…..

    The Carroll ‘push’ on the weakling Anton Ferdinand……perlease…….get real. NO FOUL.

    A decision with a significant impact on the result………

    Arguably 2 pts lost by Liverpool due to dodgy ref decisions.

    The Ref was Phil Dowd.

    Anecdotal thoughts, not a proper analysis………

  9. I have to admit I actually watched Stoke – Chelsea and most of Liverpool – Sunderland; after two bare months I take every opportunity to watch some competitive football again. In that game you refered to the quickly taken free kick to be retaken. If I recall correctly, Chelsea had lost possession already by the time the ref decided to have it retaken. Isn’t there a rule that if a free kick (or penalty) is taken incorrectly, but the opponent gets a benefit as a result, that the ref should let play move on?

    A suggestion in response to Rhys’ comment: would it be possible to review penalty decisions for matches that were not fully ref reviewed? The media usually reports all the given/not given penalties and by having a look at them we can track which teams tend to have decisions made in their favour and which teams against them. The same could be done for red card decisions. Maybe it’s a bit too much to ask now that you have just ramped up the number of weekly ref reviews, but it’s just an idea.

  10. @ Rhys

    My view on the Carroll Push is that Dowd was right, the assistant was on that side of the pitch, none of the Liverpool players protested, not even Carroll.

    Ferdinand Jumped and a small shove from Carroll meant he jumped under the ball, clever if it works out, but on this occasion the ref – assistant spotted it.

    Re the pen, yes it was a tangle, it was unintentional, but it did impede Suarez so was a pen, I must say I agree with Dowd giving only a yellow as well, Suarez had knocked the ball about 6-7 yards to his right with a very heavy touch and keeper was still active

  11. I agree on the Carroll push and in disallowing that goal.

    However, in the Suarez incident, he was rounding the keeper and angling for a shot at an empty net when he got tripped up from behind by the last defender.

    Like I said above, Suarez may have handled the ball when initially blocking Richardson’s kick, but ignoring that, I don’t see why Richardson stayed on the pitch.

  12. @Kentetsu – If on a penalty kick, the attacking team infringes but the player misses the penalty kick, then the kick is not retaken.

    If a throw-in is not taken from the right spot, the ref can blow the whistle and give a reversal (a throw-in to the opposing team).

    But if a team tries to take a quick free kick from the wrong spot or when the ref is stopping the play to set up a wall for example, then the kick is retaken.

    However, if a team tries to take a quick free kick under normal circumstances and they lose possession as a result of it, then they don’t get another chance.

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