Arsenal v Southampton 03 December 2014 – The Match Officials
by Andrew Crawshaw
Here is the updated Wrong Important Decisions table following the United game (to be strictly honest it is updated from Walter’s post game report as I haven’t seen his full referee review so there may need to be further changes). One more wrong goal against Arsenal and a further two points robbed from us. I’ll wait for the full review for the other incidents. The table also needs updating to reflect the West Brom game on Saturday.
|Wrong Important Decisions
|2nd Yellow Cards
|Possible Cost in Points
Is it evening out yet? Hell No! If the referees had done their jobs properly we should be with Chelsea at the top of the table and undefeated.
Moving on to this weekend.
- Referee – Andre Marriner
- Assistants – P Kirkup and M Perry
- Fourth Official – A Taylor
Andre Marriner was born in 1971 and his home County FA is Birmingham. His first Premier League game was in November 2004 and he has been on the select list since the start of the 2005/6 season. To date he has refereed 186 matches, issuing 41 red and 601 yellow cards
Mr Perry has been a regular Assistant with Mr Marriner over the past couple of seasons, Mr Kirkup has been with him occasionally
2014-15 History – Mr Marriner has not been used very much this year – this will be only his fourth game in charge (he has appeared 6 times as fourth official though). No Arsenal game this year but this will be his second Southampton game, he was in charge of their 8-0 demolition of Sunderland on 18 October, so they will probably not mind seeing him again so soon.
2013-14 – Mr Marriner was present for three Arsenal games, our home wins against Hull (2-0) on 04 December and Sunderland (4-1) on 22 February and our 6-0 thrashing away at Chelsea on 22 Mar in Arsene’s 1000th game. He also did Southampton four times – home v West Ham (0-0) on 15 Sept; home v Fulham (2-0) on 26 Oct; home v Newcastle (4-0) on 29 Mar and away v Cardiff (0-3) on Boxing Day.
Arsenal – Hull 2-0, may I present to you : the machine quoting from Walter’s post game review “About the ref… we should and could have had a penalty. At least one. When Ramsey was caught on the ankle when he went passed a Hull player. Was this the same ref who gave that non-penalty for Chelsea a few weeks ago against WBA? Yes, he was. And my trained eye noticed a few strong challenges he let go. Is this the same ref that send off 2 Sunderland players against Hull a few weeks ago for strong challenges? Yes, he was. He now even didn’t call it a foul.
Özil was kicked from left to right at times without the ref giving fouls, let alone yellow cards. Even my match reporter noticed it and found it too lenient refereeing from the ref. And on the other side he gave what looked soft free kicks in favour of Hull. So we surely didn’t get any help from the man in black in this match.”
Arsenal – Sunderland, a view from the North Bank This was a game attended by Walter in person, so no surprise about the score, what is surprising is that there is no mention of the referee at all in his article, so we can conclude that he had a good enough game.
Chelsea v Arsenal – Errors and mistakes for free by players and referees again quoting from Walter “First the ref let a possible foul on Arteta go in midfield so that Chelsea once again could break. The ball came to Hazard who took a shot. Oxlade-Chamberlain handled. What followed was referee comedy capers. Well he had one decision right of all the decisions he had to make: the penalty. All the rest was wrong and utterly wrong. So I don’t complain about the penalty at all.
It obviously took the 4th official to give the penalty. This was clearly visible by the way that Marriner was talking and looking in the direction of the 4th official. Now I really wonder based on what he gave it? Did he see it with his own eyes or use video evidence. Which I think is not allowed now. And I think it will be something like that as the 4th official was standing in the same line as the ref on the field.
So it would be amazing that the 4th official being 60 meters away would have seen it better than the 1st official who was 15 meters away.
What then followed was bizarre as suddenly Gibbs was shown a red card. Gibbs who had nothing to do with the whole incident. Now to put things straight a red card for a handball should be given when a defender knocks it out of goal when it would go over the line. But the shot from Hazard was going wide anyway so it wasn’t a save on the goal line. It wasn’t preventing a goal. But it was deliberate handball but should have been a yellow card.
But as a result Arsenal had to continue with a man down. And that was not correct at all. I also would like to add that if you are not sure who committed the offence you just cannot pick out a player and give him a red card. That is making a complete mess of it.
Hazard scored from the rightfully given penalty and Arsenal were looking at a gigantic mountain to climb with wrongfully being a man down. Oscar scoring another goal just for half time was not a real surprise. The referees further making a mess of things when Vermaelen who had come on for Podolski after the red card, clearly kicked the ball out against Torres but the refs gave a corner.”
So Marriner had a nightmare in this game, as did Arsenal. It was a game our players gave away, one of the worst team performances in recent years and one we would have lost even without the assistance Mr Marriner gave Chelsea.
2012-13 – Going back a further year when there were full match reviews of Arsenal games
|Match Review: Andre Marriner – Arsenal Vs West Ham United (5 – 1) [23/01/2013]
Overall performance 67% bias against both teams 69/31 and one wrong Important Decision (second yellow cards, red cards, penalty decisions or goals). In Minute 24 Vaz Te kicked Mertesacker on the Achilles, should have been a yellow card, in Minute 41 he was booked for dissent so should have been sent off for two yellow cards.
|Match Review: Andre Marriner – Fulham Vs Arsenal (0 – 1) [20/04/2013]
Overall performance 75%, bias against 15/85 but no wrong Important Decisions. Sidwell was rightly sent off in Minute 11 for a horrible challenge and Giroud was sent off in minute 89 when he brought down a Fulham player. It was a dreadfully wet evening and a miracle that any football was possible.
2011-12 Here is the summary table for all of Mr Marriner’s reviewed games
Arsenal at the bottom of the table in terms of bias against (now there’s a surprise!)
- Mr Marriner is a typical PGMO referee, and cannot be trusted to give an honest performance in an Arsenal game, he has demonstrated significant bias against Arsenal over a number of seasons.
- Expect phantom fouls called against Arsenal in dangerous areas of the pitch or when Southampton need time to reorganise
- Southampton will be given far more leeway in challenges than Arsenal
- We should hope that Mr Marriner has learned to identify our players following the “wrong playergate” incident against Chelsea last year
- The only positive thing is that Mr Marriner tends to be a ‘Home’ referee, but his bias against Arsenal is normally far stronger.
- The Crowd need to be Arsenal’s twelfth man to balance the bias that he his likely to give to Southampton.
The Christmas books
- Woolwich Arsenal: The club that changed football – Arsenal’s early years
- Making the Arsenal – how the modern Arsenal was born in 1910
- The Crowd at Woolwich Arsenal
Some other sites from the Untold team (there is a full list on the home page)
- Arsenal v Newcastle: the team and league positons AFTER the game.
- Arsenal v Newcastle: injuries, yellow cards and recent form
- Arsenal v Newcastle: the referee who just doesn’t oversee home wins
- Newcastle United’s weakness revealed and what they could do. Arsenal v Newcastle United.
- Arsenal v Newcastle: the tackles, fouls and yellow cards compared