There are figures you can trust and figures you can’t. Some figures are numbers, some are people.

By Tony Attwood

The other day we had a note from a reader saying that we shouldn’t trust the web site Who Scored.  Unfortunately in common with so many correspondents no supporting evidence was provided as to why this was the case.

Which is a shame because I would have liked to know.  I haven’t found too much wrong with it in the past… here for example is one of its tables….  Players across Europe in the order of number of assists.

What I wanted to know was whether the allegation was in terms of a bias towards and against some clubs, or just that the stats were quite wrong.  Or was it that they didn’t like Ozil being top of a list.  Sadly I wasn’t told.

Inevitably I started wondering why someone would take the trouble to write in, in this way, saying this bunch of stats is no good, without explaining why.  It seems an odd thing to do.

However I did get a bit of an answer when apropos something quite different one of my colleagues at work forwarded me a note about an article on the BBC web site which read “Social media harms moral development, parents say.”   Quite an interesting thought.  I think we can see how every day.  But what we do about it, I have no idea.

Anyway, this led me on to thinking about Raymond Verheijen, the former Wales coach who has spent a lot of time laying into the Arsenal manager, saying that his stone age training methods were to blame for Arsenal always being top of the injury league.

Mr Verheijen has built up an industry by calling everyone who isn’t named Verheijen a complete incompetent – although usually without any real evidence.  His argument about Arsenal’s injuries was ok as long as the press were happy to reprint it all day long, but not so clever when we actually did the basic research and found that Arsenal’s injuries were not far from the average.

Since our expose of Mr Verheijen’s invented statistics he has gone a bit quiet, but is back now having a go at Jürgen Klopp and Antonio Conte.  Having commented on Liverpool’s injury list last season he’s now gone for them full time.

It is interesting that Mr V has backed off Arsenal so much however; I think we were helped by the fact that the Telegraph took up our piece and ran it as “Revealed: Arsenal are not the most cursed Premier League club when it comes to injuries” – which was a bit frustrating considering we did the work, but par for the course.

Anyway Verheijen is now back with attacks on Klopp’s pre-season approach, as well as taking a few swipes at Conte as well.

But although these are different clubs Verheijen’s message is the same, the training methods are outdated.  So since then he has been twatting away for the benefit of anyone who wants to read.

Having backed off Arsenal in the face of overwhelming evidence Verheijen predicted that lots of other clubs would get injury crises because of the way the players were being trained.  And Liverpool came up trumps losing 11 players.  Then they went on to suffer quite a crisis although not the worst of any team.  Here’s the table we re-published at the end of the season

 

Apparently Mamadou Sakho and Joe Gomez both suffered Achilles tendon problems last week.   Joel Matip got a foot problem in the first pre-season game.

So now he’s back promoting his organisation, and his Complete Handbook of Conditioning for Soccer and making his accusations which generally relate to people not training their players the way he said they should be trained, and using the word “dinosaur” to describe people who have jobs he’d rather like to have.  He particularly made a lot out of David Moyes time at Man U I recall.   He has also attacked Real Madrid training system.
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He reached the zenith of his career when he was appointed to the position of Assistant Manager to the Wales team in February 2011, under Gary Speed.  After Gary Speed died Verheijen said that he expected to have the job of manager because it was the wish of Gary Speed that this should be so.
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Saying this two days after the funeral was considered by some as not really right, but he kept on bashing away at the topic, and he stayed in his job until he resigned in February 2012 criticising the FA Wales for destroying the legacy of Speed.

Verheijen claims he is a consultant for several FA’s and clubs and that he has been involved as a coach in virtually every world cup and Euros for the past 12 years.  He is also CEO of the World Football Academy, which its website describes as the “world’s leading independent education institute for coaches, staff members and practitioners. As a major knowledge provider to several FA’s and clubs around the world, the WFA is the prime contractor for thousands of football specialists.”

One thing we can predict is that anyone who doesn’t follow his approach will be a called a dino.

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4 Replies to “There are figures you can trust and figures you can’t. Some figures are numbers, some are people.”

  1. Tony
    Do you have any evidence the “Telegraph’s ” piece was based on your work and not an independent study that just happened to come out soon after?

    I only ask because you yourself were accused of cut and pasting a week ago or so, something I found unlikely seeing as you need very little encouragement to produce a lengthy piece out of nothing, but you didn’t necessarily deny your work was based on somebody else’s and instead claimed some secret sources.

    As for Mr Verheijen, there’s no doubt he is a relentless self promoter but in regards to his Arsenal criticism and Arsene Wenger’s in particular, some of the points he has made over the years are perfectly valid, which is what makes him so unpopular around here.

    Correct if I’m wrong but according to this site no Arsenal player injury has ever happen as a result of bad planing ,or a mistake ,or a miscalculation on part of Arsenal manager.

    And if that is indeed your position as I remember it, than any subsequent work on the subject of injuries makes it carry less weight behind it than it otherwise might.

  2. One figure I don’t trust, but has nothing to do with Arsenal (or football), is the height of Sylvestre Stallone.

  3. When it comes to Klopp, his injury record at Borussia was a good warning to anyone who had wanted him as a new Arsenal manager. Whole defence was out at some point, Gundogan missed a year of football, Reus missed a World Cup triumph etc etc.

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