Matchweek 23 – Which team gets which referee the most: and why?

13 Replies to “Matchweek 23 – Which team gets which referee the most: and why?”

1. You know full well the answer to your final question you scallywag 🙂

2. Excellent article Andrew. Once again exposing the strange way that referees are given matches in the PL….

3. Is it possible to see a breakdown of games grouped by referee, results, controversial incident and if VAR would have altered the result and number of points?

   For example, Mike Dean (Merseyside) v West Brom (Midlands), 1-1, 89th minute penalty to WBA. VAR would have overturned = 2 points gained.
   Anthony Taylor (Manchester) v Chelsea (London) 2-2, Hazard dive for a penalty. VAR overturned = 2 points gained

   Not totally scientific but may produce a pattern.

   (For fairness, this should include those games where we benefited too from an incorrect decision (chuckle).

4. @AFC Nemesis

   As we haven’t been able to undertake the Minuit by minute analyses of the referees performances this year, i’m afraid that we simply don’t have the raw data to produce a table with that level of data.. Sorry

5. Within Moss and Marriner’s 7 games and 7 victories for United they oversaw five away games, all of them coming out as clean sheets for the visitors. Not saying United didn’t play well to get those results, just that I find those particular coincidences interesting to say the least..

6. Okay Andy. Good article.

   I think there is a serious problem with our match officials. However, when you try to question this subject you are met with a wall of denial and a section of fans who think you are conspiracy theorists. The fact that only Italy and the PL have professional referees is interesting because we do not have a single one deemed good enough for the World Cup. Yet being paid as professionals means they should be the best.

   The reasons we have no referees at the WC can be explained in an article written by a former writer of yours, Kev (Proudkev). His evidence based article with quotes, was the catalyst for my interest in our standard of refereeing. In fact, I lost the article and couldn’t remember where I had read it until I found your site and Pete produced the link. Thanks!

   In this article your writer explained how the FA train referees to apply a different set of rules to those followed by overseas referees. Now this is interesting. He also produced evidence regarding FA merit tables and comments from a former referee about why there is a regional bias and how he tried to improve matters without success. His article was not the speculative nonsense we have to endure from our Professional Sports journalists or certain blogs, it was evidence based that has since been proven. I notice another referee from Manchester has been promoted to PGMOL, which he predicted too.

   The fact we have no referees going to the World Cup is a sad indictment of the FA and PGMOL and proof something is not as it should be. The FA are responsible for this but along with PGMOL and the referees, none of these are accountable or interested in addressing their shortcomings. The fact that a writer of yours was able to conduct such informative research means that either professional sports writers are not interested or incompetent. With no referees at the World Cup it seems only Untold knows why. Keep up the good work.

7. The age profile of the refs is another cause for concern rarely talked about. Eleven out of eighteen refs are too old for FIFA accreditation. Amazing really. Thanks for all this data Andrew.

8. Good piece, Andrew. When we watch other european leagues, we always comment that their refs appear much younger, slimmer and fitter. They also don’t have to keep blowing the whistle for breaks to get their breath back (Marriner, Moss, Mason, come to mind in particular.) Does it just seem that we’ve had Moss and Taylor a lot more this season?

9. Well done Andrew exposing the way in which the EPL is decided by select officials. Selectively sighted, selectively decided & selectively remunerated. Select & above all Laws in England.

10. more articles on referees. Just what we wanted. Great!

11. Mike Dean, 49…. Jon Moss, 47…

    So why can I run faster than either of those and I’m not an athlete and nearly 67!

12. Arsenal_62
    As I said before, if you don’t like what is served up on Untold why do you keep coming here. There are plenty of other blogs if you don’t like this one and as a bonus we will be free of your silly comments.

13. “PGMO’s incompetence in having too few referees continues.” Surely it’s not that there isn’t enough of them, but more that they are not evenly distributed in the slightest? I’m sure that we’ve got about the same number of refs as other leagues, but the games are actually spread out evenly between them, unlike over here, where the top guys do far more matches than the guys at the bottom of the list. I think it is clear to anyone with half a brain why the PIGMOB operate in this way.