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  1. Gord
    04/12/2019

    A search for
    Dr. Kevin Moore
    doesn’t immediately turn up anything interesting, but a search for
    Dr. Kevin Moore Tottenham
    does.

    Hit 1 is a linked in entry mentioning a national football museum, hit 3 is a blurb from a bookstore flogging this book which has as the end of the snippet:

    Dr. Kevin Moore is the founding director of the National Football Museum (the world’s leading football museum) and now serves in a research …

    The next hit was this thread on Untold Arsenal talking about this book.

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  2. Mikey
    04/12/2019

    A big well done to you Tony. I’ve read this before but you deserve massive thanks for actually doing all the work and reporting the truth……….clearly you’d never have made it in journalism!!

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  3. Bernard
    04/12/2019

    If you read Dr. Kevin Moore’s Linkedin entry via Google, Tony, you would be ashamed of daring to criticise him. He appears to be one of the best educated and most erudite people I have come across. Or maybe he is a bullshitter.

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    • Tony Attwood
      04/12/2019

      Bernard re Dr Moore – if the author of the book has a genuine doctorate as a result of serious study at a recognised university, then clearly he knows what evidence is. In that case he is deliberately setting aside all he learned in terms of how to do research because there is no evidence in this section of his book, and he clearly says that there are no records of the meeting of the League, whereas Athletic News and virtually every local daily paper which included a League club covered it. Both the papers and Athletic News are available via the British Library. Dr Moore may not have seen them, but he can’t assert the evidence doesn’t exist if he did not check first.
      I don’t have a PhD but I do have an M.Phil from London University Institute of Education and I certainly would not have got past the first meeting with my tutor if I’d gone around not looking for evidence. Indeed I recall in the viva before which I was awarded the degree the visiting professor who read my thesis said, “Now I’d like to discuss with you your use of the word “why?”
      If this author really has a doctorate then he would have been through all this and more, and therefore this book is a shameful disregard of all he knows about research and is thus a deliberate con trick.

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  4. Gord
    04/12/2019

    As I pointed out, if you just search for Dr. Kevin Moore, it is not obvious who this person is. Once you give a search engine enough of a hint, then it will point out things like a LinkedIn entry. But, as near as I can tell, unless you are a member of LinkedIn, you can’t see the entry.

    I have run across enough people with Ph.D. degrees, who are useless; to not blindly trust the presence of either the term Dr or Ph.D.

    To me, it looks like your comment is solelu there to bash Tony.

    Perhaps you could have added some information, instead of being like the medja and just bashing?

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  5. Mikey
    04/12/2019

    I note he’s even advertising his book on LinkedIn as “a perfect Christmas gift”!

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  6. Mikey
    04/12/2019

    OT

    Up to and including match day 14. It appears there have been an average of 19.9 cards issued for offences related to fouls. An average of 19.9 per team. We have an above average 21 despite committing an average number of fouls. That’s maybe not so amazing.

    What amazed me though is that virtually a quarter of all cards have been handed out for non-foul related incidents (although I don’t know what they are related to). That means 130 cards or 6.5 per team. As mentioned the other day, Leicester have been treated overall very leniently, particularly when compared to us. So how do we compare on the non-foul related cards. Well against that average of 6.5, Leicester have received just 1. Arsenal have received 13, twice the average and four more than the next highest team. Yet another rat stinking the place out.

    Irrespective of the above, the site I get these stats from (whoscored.com) does, for some unknown reason, single out the topic of cards issued for diving. Now one might expect that with the PGMOL being so good at their job (ahem) and having the additional benefit of VAR to help them that the number of cards issued for diving might have changed slightly. So just how many cards have been issued for diving given we’re over a third through the season? Absolutely nil. Jeez

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  7. Gord
    04/12/2019

    Just from a casual glance at your numbers Mikey, 19.9 is statistically the same as 21.

    I believe I’ve only seen 1 card issued as a result of a player needing treatment, and it wasn’t for diving.

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  8. Gord
    04/12/2019

    OT: Miedema

    I posted a URL to a story today.

    https://untold-arsenal.com/archives/78291#comment-969466

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  9. Nitram
    04/12/2019

    Didn’t Saka get a card for a dive?

    Cant remember against who or even what competition but I think it was issued by dancing Dean.

    Could be completely wrong. My memory isn’t what it was and it wasn’t great at its best.

    Also just to repeat what I pointed out the other day, Leicester had a penalty award over turned on review as it was a clear an obvious error AND a clear and obvious dive. No card was issued. Well there’s a surprise.

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  10. Nitram
    04/12/2019

    By the way Spurs just scored a goal that hit Delis arm.

    The rules clearly state if the ball strikes the arm, either deliberately or accidently, and the goal must be ruled out.

    It wasn’t. Well there’s another surprise.

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  11. Nitram
    04/12/2019

    VAR have let Liverpool off a penalty and a red card.

    Well there’s a surprise.

    Strangely the TV ref agrees with VAR. Well there’s a surprise.

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  12. Nitram
    04/12/2019

    Actually the tv ref agrees with everything VAR says AND everything the ref says. Well there’s a surprise.

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  13. Mark
    04/12/2019

    And Leicester awarded a penalty for absolutely nothing and VAR kept the decision. Do not see the point in VAR

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  14. Nigel
    04/12/2019

    Great arcticle Tony. Lost count of the number of books I have read that do not investigate the matter properly. Thank goodness you do. The real reason Spurs fans should be mad is the fact that Manchester United and Liverpool were not in the vote due to their admitted match fixing, or even relegated or expelled automatically. The vote as you point out was normal procedure when extending the league.

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  15. Nitram
    04/12/2019

    VAR is not used to correct errors but simply as a tool to reinforce the bias that already exists

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  16. Les Martin ( LeMmy )
    04/12/2019

    US the voice of reason in a bent and corrupt game.
    Thank you I’m pinning this excellent article so I can spring to the defence of Arsenal whenever a disparaging spud runs off at the mouth in future.

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    • Les Martin (LeMmy)
      04/12/2019

      I def wrote UA …so that’s that little matter cleared up .

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  17. Gord
    05/12/2019

    Chel$ea 2 – 1 AVilla

    The yellow cards were also 2:1; and the fouls were 18:10. Chel$ea had most of the shots and possession. Chel$ea inflict a treatment on AVilla at 58m. AVilla inflict a treatment on Chel$ea at 82m, requiring a substitution. Twit in the middle noticed nothing on either treatment.

    Leicester 2 – 0 Watford

    Leicester had 3 yellows to 2 for Watford. Vardy given a penalty for their first goal. Fouls were 13:15. Leicester had the possession and shots. Treatment to Watford at 32m, twit noticed nothing. Same player needs treatment at 64m, again the twit notices nothing.

    ManU 2 – 1 Spuds

    Only 1 card, to spuds. Dele Diver gets the spud goal. Fouls are 10:6. Rest of stats look about even. Spuds inflict a treatment on 14m, twit notices nothing. Spuds inflict a treatment at 44m, twit notices nothing. United’s winning goal is a gift from the twit to Rashford (pen). Kane Diver was playing, but didn’t score.

    Liverpool!! 5 – 2 Everton

    Cards were 1:2, fouls were 13:17. Pool had more possession, not much in other stats to show for it (other than goals). Liverpool inflicts a treatment on 2m, twi notices nothing.

    Safe trip home tomorrow Tony!

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  18. AllanC
    05/12/2019

    Tony,
    Do you think that this book should be brought to the attention of the club?
    Presumably there is something that they could do about the inaccuracies it contains.

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  19. Samuel Akinsola Adebosin
    05/12/2019

    If there be any authorised authority institution on books and research materials for research and academics work in the world that controls the authentication and the genuinety of books written and authored by a scholar or otherwise for private and public education use and consumption by people and students learning and studying, then such institution should stand down this Dr Kevin Moore’s book from private and public use for the inaccuracies and misleading informations that largely are contained in the book. And have it officially withdrawn from schools and public libraries use in the world. While also ban and outlawed it from being sold on any books selling sores or vendor’s stands henceforth with for it’s being grossly substandard as a fact finding material reference book.

    But how could Dr K Moore deliberately looked to be so untruthful in this his book? And despite he’s being a Tottenham Hotspur supporter (allegedly) on the face of this book that he has written, but does it ever occurred to him that he’ll be found out?

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  20. Brickfields Gunners
    05/12/2019

    Nice article and a great reply, Tony . Well presention of the facts .

    As for the said books , I don’t know how suitable a Chistmas gift it would be to the recepient . Overjoyed would probably not be the word we are looking for !

    It would probably end up propping up broken or slanting furniture , or a handy weapon for some disgruntled wife who wishes to launch a missile at her husband’s head !

    Or better still like in trhe old days , lining Polly’s bird cage or as reading (and other handy use) material in some rural outhouse .

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  21. Wes
    05/12/2019

    I’ve just left a 1 star review on Amazon of the book based on the inaccuracy of the chapter mentioned above, with a link to this article (it’s being processed so may not show for a few days apparently). Have a go yourselves, it’s fun!

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    • Tony Attwood
      05/12/2019

      Great idea. I’ll do it now.

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  22. Ben
    05/12/2019

    His research probably was if he could not find it in the first 3 pages of google then it must not exist.

    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6601609658631274496/

    his post btw

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  23. Nitram
    05/12/2019

    Tony

    The first review on the book clearly demonstrates the problem you have when books like this are published by a supposedly learned author, and that is he is believed without question. The review states:

    “Challenges most of what we take for granted and argues it’s case well”

    Now I’m not having a pop at the reviewer as if I hadn’t read Tony’s in depth articles I probably wouldn’t of questioned the author, after all, he does have a phd.

    Now one way of authenticating your theories is to cite sources, as Tony did, then the claims can be checked.

    But the good Doctor has been very sneaky because by claiming all the evidence has been destroyed he:

    a) doesn’t need to cite his sources and

    b) what laymen is going to disbelieve him and go search for it anyway?

    Like the reviewer they will believe him. Why wouldn’t they ?

    Without doubt yet another cheap shot at Arsenal done in the full knowledge of it being totally inaccurate.

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  24. Nitram
    05/12/2019

    As for Arsenal taking him to task ? I wouldn’t hold my breath, after all they allowed Adrian Durham to insult our club manager and players with inaccurate ‘facts’ for years without saying a dickiebird.

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  25. Stevo
    05/12/2019

    ot
    is the link that is inviting us to Streamfootball.TV perfectly ok or is it to good be true.I just had a little visit and all appears ok.

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