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  1. Sally Pally
    15 February 2021

    The fact is, I think most on here agree that this season we have been done out of at least 9 points. My conservative estimate for points taken away by referee bias per season is a minimum of 15 for the last 17 years. And bear mind that many of theses points would have been lost from teams above us. Also bear mind that we have had many players taken out of games without the opponent being punished, whilst we get bookings for much more innocuous tackles.
    Although we won easily last night, the score with honest refereeing would have been 6:2 or 6:3. When Leeds got their first goal back, Sky were quick to mention our collapse (lol) against Newcastle to have 4:4 after we were leading 4:0.
    I can’t believe that we are having to talk about Arsenal being done out of 15 points each season for 17 years. But we have the evidence, we have the proof and one day, someone with some clout will document it and there can be some justice.

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  2. Steve Vallins
    15 February 2021

    Six(6) points from our last two(2) away games would show the league table in a completely different light , the problem looking at results like this is that every team can say the same thing by picking out certain results . The circumstances of the last two(2) away games were influenced by referees decisions and non decisions , yesterday’s result we took any influence away from the referee but it could have been very different
    A penalty given then rescinded after a look at the monitor , he must have doubted himself or had a whisper in he’s ear , did Leeds deserve a penalty late in the game ? Was it not given due to the referees bad decision on Arsenal first penalty claim ?
    It seems every game Arsenal play there are so many strange decisions what referees make or in most cases don’t make , Tony you have said how Arsenal have tried changed there style of play regarding making tackles but we still get rolled over , the rules/laws of the game change when it’s us .

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  3. porter
    15 February 2021

    It is hard to distinguish the difference of Saka’s refused penalty to the Luiz Wolves one but undoutably a different refereeing outcome . Even Luiz could be heard commenting on it but I suppose Riley will say that they have learned from their mistake , or most likey will say nothing at all.
    The collapse against Newcastle still rankles with me when it’s thrown in our faces time and time again. It was a combination of Dowd and Joey Barton cheating that day . There is no other way to describe it.
    One thing did come out from this weekend though was Souness of all people calling Salah out and stating that he dived . Yes he actually used that word , I ran it back to check.
    Maybe that will catch on and a few more habitual divers will get their names in lights.

    But I doubt it.

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  4. mick shelley
    15 February 2021

    Sally Pally/Steve Vallins
    It appears that ESPN (not exactly well known for adopting a pro Arsenal position!!!) agree with you regarding our bad record with suffering from dodgy VAR decisions…….
    https://www.espn.in/football/english-premier-league/story/4182135/how-var-decisions-affected-every-premier-league-club-in-2020-21

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  5. mick shelley
    15 February 2021

    Dermot Gallagher, the ‘PGMOL’s excuse maker for inexplicably bad ref decisions’ uses the minimal contact line to explain why Saka’s penalty in the Leeds match was in his opinion correctly overturned.
    Wasn’t David Luiz’s contact minimal then, and that was actually the Wolves player foot catching Luiz, not the other way round. Obviously not minimal enough as the penalty stood with a red card for Luiz to boot.

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  6. John L
    15 February 2021

    All the pundits harking back to the 4-0 to 4-4 result at Newcastle (quite predictably) omitted to mention that Arsenal were down to 10 men as result of Diaby being sent off for retaliating against repeated assaults by Barton and Nolan, which the referee, Phil Dowd did nothing to prevent. (the same 2 players then got away with an assault on Szczesny later in the game). Neither did they see fit to mention that 2 Newcastle goals came from penalties awarded by Mr. Dowd for imaginary fouls, nor the fact that a 5th Arsenal goal by Van Persie was suspiciously disallowed for a dubious off-side.

    These truths would, of course not fit the media narrative of Arsenal being soft and useless and open to ridicule

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  7. Menace
    15 February 2021

    It is very interesting listening to the West Ham v S United game when the penalty was awarded to West Ham. Peter Walton the PGMOL spokesman said the yellow card was appropriate as the penalty gave the team the goal scoring opportunity that was prevented in the foul and the double jeopardy was averted.

    The red card for an Arsenal player and a penalty is not double jeopardy as it does not meet the PGMOL Laws for Arsenal.

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  8. Steve Vallins
    15 February 2021

    Mick Shelley
    Minimal contact only comes into the decision if it’s not Arsenal and is always given , you’ve got to show the referee you’ve been touched

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