Ref review Everton – Arsenal : the Clattenburg-Dean combination, a lethal one

54 Replies to “Ref review Everton – Arsenal : the Clattenburg-Dean combination, a lethal one”

1. Yet another game where we were blatantly robbed.
   How must Wenger feel having to put up with years of being cheated out of points.

2. now take a look at what dean does when tottenham player is touched outside of the box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5YXBswC8s

3. Uncharacteristically, Clattenburg gave an interview on this game.

   http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/58701#comment-901148

   He said that the only mistake he made, was the corner kick.

   Which I gather means that all the rest was on purpose, as it wasn’t by mistake? This could be difference of opinion as to what is and isn’t a foul. Point of view might be involved.

4. Thanks for exposing Clattenburg’s and his 2 assistants clandestine referring against Arsenal away to Everton a few weeks ago. In as much as Arsenal have to put up with this kind of referring and live with it, the Gunners must also find a way in this kind of anti-Arsenal referring match to negate the match referee cynical referring the match against them by putting away most of the chances that fell to them in the game to have the upper hand in the final score-line of the match.

   Arsenal have been finding it difficult to score many goals in their PL games as against Tottenham Hotspur who have been finding it better than us to score many goals in their PL games. But at Yesterday, the goal difference of both Arsenal and Tottenham is showing Spurs have only 1 goal difference advantage over Arsenal in the table.

   This handicap of not scoring many goals regularly by the Gunners in most of their PL games MUST be overcome at the Vitality Stadium tomorrow as they battle Bournemouth team for 3 points collection.

   Le Prof SHOULD do a Gunners team rotation for this our away match to Bournemouth. So that the Gunners will be in optimum condition to perform optimally in the game. Any starting Gunner who has played in our last Crystal Palace game at the Ems yesterday who cannot efficiently play 2 matches in 3 days due to young age and game fatigue should be started from the bench. But those 3 Gunners subs who were brought on in the 2nd half of the Palace game can be started along with others for the Bournemouth match for enhanced game performance by Arsenal.

   My unrivalled starts for our away match against AFC Bournemouth which can only be rivalled by Le Prof’s starts are:
   Cech
   Bellerin Paulista Koscielny Monreal
   Coquelin Ramsey
   Sanchez Ozil Chamberlain
   Giroud.

   My bench:
   Ospina Niles Holding Mustafi Xhaka Walcott Perez.

   I suspect Walcott will be back into the match day squad hence I’ve dropped Adelaide. But I will advice Le Prof to start both Walcott & Mustafi from the bench. But if necessary he can bring them on in the 2nd half of the match.

5. For their been inept in front of goal, Sunderland were wasteful for not converting that break away chance they had in the game to take the lead in game against Liverpool.

6. fernandinho sent off
   third red card in six matches

7. An excellent review.

   A few years ago Clattenburg seemed to be the least biased of the refs, indeed at times he seemed to be fair. Sometime in the last two seasons it appears that someone has really got to him – or has got something on him – because he has degenerated quickly into one of the worst of the many anti Arsenal refs.

   Everton have been a physical team for quite some time, but with the advent of Koeman they have degenerated into Stoke like thugs – esp against Arsenal. In this match they ran around like untiring blue assed flies – as if they were fuelled by the Vardy pre match concoction.
   Baines, Miralles and esp McCarthy were and are thugs – even Jagielka – for whom I used to have some respect – joined in the anti Arsenal thuggery. Shame on them and shame on Koeman! Shame on Clattenburg for being part of it.

   Strangely, against the Dippers – the next match for Everton – they were much less aggressive. I wonder why?

8. The sitting deep Black Cats team defending resolutely and counter attacking occasionally have given a good account of themselves alround in this their match against Liverpool. But can Sunderland keep playing at this high tempo in the 2nd half of this match without switched off momentarily in the game to stop the sustained high pressing team Liverpool from capitalizing on any Sunderland switching off in the game to score and win the game?

9. livepoodle scores from offside

10. mane intentionally handles the ball in the box, gets a yellow
    guess sunderland doesn’t need any help from refs, unlike tottenham

11. I said it, Sunderland have switched off in the game to concede the lead to Liverpool. Thus denying Arsenal gaining 2 points on Liverpool in table. We can only hope now for something to emerge out of no where in favour of Sunderland to give them an equalising goal. While I am yet to post my comment, something out no where has emerged out of no where in favour of Sunderland via a 2nd penalty to them in game to get the equalising goal. 87 minutes into the match, it’s increasing looking Arsenal could gain those 2 points on Liverpool. Desperate time the Stadium of Light.

12. can and firminho handle the ball, the ref doesn’t pay attention

13. i remember one game late in the last season when leicester players handled the ball four or five times, none was flagged by ref

14. And that’s that at the Stadium of Light. Arsenal will remain 3rd in the table with a win over Bournemouth tomorrow and will also gain 2 points on Liverpool in the table as we also dethrown Man City from the 3rd place they are temporarily occupying in the table.

15. dean gives a red to wh player for the same kind of tackle Barkley did

16. Dean the corrupt strikes again – in favour of the Manures – surprise surprise!

17. sorry, can’t find the Barkley foul in the report, that must have been a different game

18. well that certainly was a less dangerous tackle than the one on Ramsey in leicester game

19. Dean is really an amazing referee.

    I will celebrate when he ends his career and I don’t care which way his career will end.

20. the first chance MU gets in half an hour is from offside

21. thanks g-d for the goal loan technology or dean would have let it go in

22. *goal line

23. jones appears to handle the ball, no replay given

24. pgMOB Rules (ok?) Football

    It’s football. Just not unbiased association football as you know it.

    *gollum gollum*

25. no replay of the incident in half-time highlights either

26. One rule for tweddledee
    Another rule for tweedledum

    No equivocal laws to rule them all are required especially not when they make up this game management malarky in the meetings before the matches.

    *gollum gollum*

27. @OlegYch

    On Sky Sports Niall Quinn & Alan Smith were very critical of Dean – not just for his decision today – but his decision making in general. It will be interesting to see if they “disappear” from Sky Sports quite soon!

28. Savage says it was a wrong decision…

29. now dean literally passes to MU lol

30. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38490825

    Funny interview with Young Pep after Man City’s victory today

31. zlatan with an offside goal

32. this is beyond joke

33. Man U score a second goal, Guess what? It was a yard offside. The whole game is descending to farce level.

34. Ah, but it all evens out in the end you know, Like fuck it does.

    Imagine if we got favours like this lot.

35. russian robbie savage equivalent says dean made it difficult for mu because wh defends more being man down

36. Now an offside goal for the Manures – what a corrupt league – one that is crying out for the use of technology to remove the chances of “errors” – but that route is consistently refused by those in authority – those who are “content” with the present PGMO farce!

37. FIFA.com has an article about Howard Webb being involved in picking recipients for the Fair Play award, and what an honour it is.

    http://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/y=2016/m=12/news=webb-it-s-about-doing-things-the-right-way-2861298.html

    I really don’t think after however many years of 😈 Mike Riley and that other twat before him, that anyone who was part of the Select Group has any clue what fair play is. Even if it jumped up and kicked them in the groin. No sense saying testicles, none of them (male PGMO employees/contractors) have any.

38. pgMOB Rules (ok?) Football

39. John Arne Riise – @JARiiseOfficial

    Mike Dean is finished! So so so bad! He gets worse and worse every week. Take the whistle from him please!
    9:48 am – 2 Jan 2017

40. tbh i think they both deserved to be sent off
    the mainstream reaction is rather curious considering neither of mentioned talking heads are to be trusted

41. https://mobile.twitter.com/WHUFC_News/status/815991508168036352

42. This is from 2005

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2005/feb/27/newsstory.sport4?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Mike Dean was suspended from league games over betting.

43. Mike Dean is a disgrace. He wasn’t even looking at the challenge as it happened.
    I typed into Google ‘Mike Dean cheat’ and the third result was an open letter from Walter to Mike Dean in an article from Untold ‘Mike Dean: the referee, the man, the history, the scandals’.
    This was from September 2009. This is how long we have been screwed over. The premier league is becoming a joke. I for one would love to to know who is behind it, as it is obvious now…

44. Your points about Clattenburg and how he has changed, and the likely reasons why, are well made, Walter. Terrible stuff!

45. Good links above. So both Dean & Clattenburg have some form of “previous”: most interesting!

46. Something stewing in my head, and it isn’t welsh rarebit.

    Screwy decisions didn’t start with 😈 Mike Riley. What’s before? I think before goes back to the start of the EPL. There was that little hiccup at the beginning as to how many teams to put in the EPL, so if the PGMO nonsense goes back to the end of that hiccup, I think that is close enough to go back to the start of the EPL.

    I don’t want to go wading through old versions of Wikipedia data, the current page doesn’t even say who was manager before this idiot 😈 Mike Riley. I think it was Hackett, so even though he is in the medja now, I don’t think he is part of the solution because he is still part of the problem. If nothing else Hackett thinks that coming out of a game with serious bruising still doesn’t indicate that any foul occurred (you have to be a _MAN_).

    There was a reason to look at Fat Sam recently. I look at his record, and I just see lots of mediocre. Mediocre at managing, medicore at playing. Why does the medja worship him?

    In the past, I’ve looked at SAF. What in his record as a player or manager before the EPL started, points to his success at ManU in the EPL? And yet, there are people who think he is God. I don’t think there is anything substantially different between SAF and Fat Sam in their records in this regard.

    Something about the start of the EPL is screwy. It might not be just a single thing. Did ManU loan money to football (The FA and/or league) to start the EPL? Did SAF know of skeletons in the closet of many referees, or just the referee manager? Was the original intention of the EPL that it would be a _MANS_ league, and hence more robust than football elsewhere in the world? Are all these answers sitting in some sealed contract from 25 or so years ago?

    Is the answer to how you spell corruption, “T”, “h”, “e”, “F”, “A”?

47. Thin insidious practice of the refs being incompetent or to be more exact, deliberately manipulative.
    It seems to be getting worse with every game played and is well beyond a joke now.

    If TV and media were really independent they would be all over these mistakes and blowing their horns like the “end of the world alarm”, but they actually support and hide these events to viewers.

48. Jagielka Red002
    Williams clearly tried to kick Coq and kicked his own player, then Jagielka went in on Coq and stood on his foot.

    This was one of the attacks on Arsenal players to injure them.

    Sometimes i wonder if players from teams are “bought” to try to injure an upcoming opponent, but there is so much wrong going on that it is starting to need more and more exposure.

    Still, what do we really expect in the world? It is clear that corruption starts at the very top and filters down through all aspects of life.

49. Gord,

    Keith Hackett was indeed the previous chief of PiGMOB, and was removed following pressure from SAF, who was unhappy that “not enough decisions” were going his way.

50. Dean’s display is only a drop in the corrupt ocean of PGMOL & FA. There are several instances of offside goals & red cards that were not given this season as in last season.

    Leicester were presented the league by corrupt officiating. Untold has highlighted the strange corrupt delivery by a select set of officials that gifted them game after game.

    The use of nicotine & caffeine as a stimulant ‘hidden’ in a blue bandage was ignored & can been seen to make a difference in one players stamina.

    This season the 2 Manchester clubs are being allowed offside goals like confetti. Red cards to Costa & Rojo have been avoided like the tax these corrupt bastards evade. There is nothing sporting in the football that these teams & organisations are involved in. It is total robbery in the front of billions of viewers with no recourse to law.

51. Other sides are allowed to score offside goals at the rate of one per week, struggling to recall when we were beneficiaries of such generous “errors”, just one only.. never mind the ones allowed against us.

52. @ Josif 5:41

    I too would celebrate when Dean retires but I would wager that Riley will retire at the same time and Dean will take over at the PIGMOB. More years of the same then…….and if it isn’t Dean it’ll be Atkinson……or Clattenburg or one of the other clowns posing as premiership referees

53. Gord. Refs only turned professional in 2001 so no pgmol before that.

    To me, the very best you can say about it all is that it is an exceptionally dirty business in which the supremely ruthless can gain huge advantages. Basically, I think it might be possible to have a system which operates exactly as a corrupt one would without involving actual corruption- brown envelopes, illegal activity, clear instructions to cheat and break rules.

    Riley becoming boss of Pgmol is the big one. How did it happen? Who chose him? Most importantly, why was Hackett’s reign cut short?

    Mark Halsey’s book makes clear Hackett was sacked. He suggests in the book that prominent managers from the north were unhappy with him- mentioning two, Allardyce and, yep, the good lord Ferguson.

    He also says a number of times that the ultimate bosses, of him and Pgmol are the premier league. That doesn’t square with how it’s meant to be, as all the pgmob literature suggests their board is made up of chief executives of Fa, football League, Premier league and one non-executive member.. but that’s what he says. Ultimately, Premier League rule pgmol.

    Halsey is too arrogant and sure of his own professionalism and integrity, and those around him to even realise their could be anything amiss- he proudly lists his favourite managers as Ferguson, Allardyce, mourinho, Moyes (all those who coincidentally respond most to his texts and emails and are occasionally generous with charitable causes he is- involved in) or that there could be anything wrong with a manager or two getting their wish and having the boss of referees removed.

    A grim, dirty picture. Here’s a look at Ferguson talking about Hackett not long before he was removed. The hypocrisy is amazing even for Ferguson.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7285393.stm

    I’d be amazed if Portsmouth on the day in question were allowed to get away with half of what Utd did in game 50. But there you go, Ferguson complains, and soon after the man who presided over the biggest injustice in premier league history, in Ferguson’s favour, winds up as the new man in charge.

    Also on my little trawl today I notice the original intention was for there to be the more sensible number of 24 pgmol refs at the outset. They wouldn’t have decided that randomly; it would have been because it was obvious that was a sound number to use.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/1386841.stm

54. This week has seen a lot of unsavory incidents involving officials. Apart from the 3 or 4 obvious ones at State Aid yesterday, we also saw both Klopp and Guadiola having uncharacteristic pops at the men in charge. Now I see that Sanga has been given an ultimatum by the FA to explain himself after saying on Instagram that it felt like “10 against 12”. I’m sure West Ham collectively feel the same.

    Why can’t player question what goes on in games? Isn’t it their right? Or has the fascism that appears in our government, spread to other areas? The FA are sticking the finger up at the government committee investigating them, and that should at least invite some media investigation.

    Just shows that the media, the FA, PGMOL and the government are all as bent as S shaped beds that they sleep in!