25 responses

  1. Cape Gooner
    20/12/2011

    The list is too long : Newcastle, Liverpool, Blackburn, Tottenham, Man City.

    Against Fulham the TV own goal was after a Zamora tug and the Dempsey penalty was not given. Six games.

  2. Cape Gooner
    20/12/2011

    “We shouldn’t be afraid of anyone.”

    Right on!

    Sagna is the best RB in the league. Kompany and Toure challenge TV & Kos, but no one else does. Song is the best DM in the league. Wilshere/Ramsey/Arteta/Diaby are not equalled by any other team. The only reason I have not mentioned Gibbs/Santos is that there are some very good LBs around.

    RvP is the best striker in the league and Theo/Gervinho are comparable to Bale/Lennon, Valencia/Nani, Mata/Sturridge and Silva/Nasri.

    However, the team of Dowd, Dean etc are too good for us!

  3. Xave
    20/12/2011

    Sorry, I love Theo and Gerv but there’s no way they compare to Mata/Sturridge or Silva/Nasri.

  4. Mandy Dodd
    20/12/2011

    It certainly was a good performance, but we come up against another unsurmountable object. Surely this club have enough evidence to take things further on the standard of the refs we get.
    Maybe Wenger needs to feign interest in the England job, get every decision going for a few months, win something then tell the FA where to go with their silly job, and expose the FA /EPL / PGMOL for what they clearly are.

    Lots of games coming up, no more injuries please

  5. Woolwich Peripatetic
    20/12/2011

    Wenger as England manager? The FA couldn’t face that nightmare. He’d insist on picking the teams/squads for all levels, from England schoolboys and up for a start. Every youth team would be designed to produce players for the senior side and half the big name ‘stars’ would have their international careers terminated for giving the ball away cheaply.
    End result, an England team that plays reasonable football, features quite a few English players no-one has heard of and hundreds of disgruntled vested interests demanding Wenger’s head.

  6. Mandy Dodd
    20/12/2011

    Lol, very true WP!

  7. Sammy The Snake
    20/12/2011

    Time for us to finally get a penalty decision in our favor?!!

  8. bjtgooner
    20/12/2011

    Good article Walter, the team played really well and matched the billionaire oilers. Had the oilers been restricted to 11 players instead of 12 we probably would have won. Credit must go to our players for their performance.

    It looks as if fair refereeing is something we can only wish for until rancid Riley goes, or is fired in disgrace. At present he is far too comfortable with his subserviant sixteen.

  9. Gooner Gal
    20/12/2011

    Yesterday I tried and failed to get hold of a Man U fan who agreed with me that Man C played them off the park when they were beaten at home 1-6, even before the Evans sending off. He insisted that we would probably go down 12-1 when we played Man C but this wasn’t the case as many people agree that the match could of gone either way.

    @ Mandy, the thought makes me a little sick, but maybe we should feed John Cross rubbish, perhaps get Tom Watson to drop a picture of the England badge with a heart drawn round it and with the words Arsene Wenger in bold with question marks scribbled over it near him to see if he bites. I know it’s outrageously far fetched but I think he would class that as a concrete source of information and could run with it for weeks.

    @ Woolwich, never mind the FA – that would be my nightmare to be honest. I feel no remorse when I say I put club before country nowadays. I hope Arsenal remains Arsene Wenger’s consuming passion for a good while yet. The only fitting job in football after Arsenal would be head of UEFA or FIFA.

  10. nicky
    20/12/2011

    During the game, the thing that sobered me was the way, at times, Citeh’s attacking reminded me so much of Arsenal not so long ago.
    I wondered whether Vieira had had a hand in this.

  11. Gooner Gal
    20/12/2011

    A bit off topic, but I have just found out some surprising news that should have a few Ghanians cheering. loudly.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16186556.stm

    I reckon, it will get appealed and reduced as the Liverpool fans amongst the press get to work on their lobbying articles and support for Suarez.

  12. Byo
    20/12/2011

    Great synopsis. I was sitting here in Fishersville, VA(USA) thinking to myself last sunday how fixed some games in the PL must be! What with the various non-/wrong decisions of late(of course the Arsenal matches concern me more)
    The other issue(which I honestly do not want to bring up)-what is the contribution of Arshavin and Chamakh to the team now? There are definitely some on the squad that need to move on, so we can get players that bleed the red and white of Arsenal.

  13. Mahdain
    20/12/2011

    anyone knows when was the last time we had a penalty? Correct me if im wrong but wasnt it in the match i will not mention? When was that? August?

  14. bjtgooner
    20/12/2011

    @Mahdain

    I am not 100% sure, but I think you are correct. The other question is – how many penalties should we have had?

  15. Mandy dodd
    20/12/2011

    Nicky, think vieira has had a hand in a few things over the last few months, and some of them maybe not becoming of an arsenal legend, but guess he works for someone else now. Think he is a big part of the arsenalisation of citeh, shame we did not get him on our employment in some capacity, but then again, maybe not on what city are allegedly paying him.
    Gooner gal, interesting! Anything that could work would be good for me
    Mahdain, think the last pen was aug, and vp missed it , stand to be corrected here! Since Eduardo , and a few other things, very few pens. Dowd would probably rather chew off his member whilst dowsing it with neat hydrochloric acid than give us a pen, as would a few of his colleagues

  16. Andrei
    20/12/2011

    Not to take anything away from the Arsenal’s performance which exceeded all my expectations but the main reason they deserved anything from the encounter on Sunday was City’s inability to finish off the game. Arsenal were outplayed most of the first half and at times were really scrambling at the back. Only Aguero ineptitude in front of goal and Szczesny heroics prevented City from leading by at least a couple at the half. The second half was more balanced mostly because City looked like they ran out steam towards the end – it seems to be a recurring pattern with them.

    As for bad calls the penalty was probably the closest but still not clear cut case. And you cannot really blame officials for the disallowed RVP goal. It was unbelievably close call that required a split second decision. It seems like everyone on this forum believes it was a legitimate goal but even after looking the the multiple images/videos posted on the Internet I still think there is no conclusive evidence that it was a wrong call. The ref could have given RVP the benefit of doubt but he didn’t and he was in his right not to do so.

    A good performance from Arsenal I agree but City were the better team on the night.

  17. Shard
    21/12/2011

    @Andrei

    The better team that also got the rub of the green, or the charm of having Dowd as their own personal genie..whichever scenario takes your fancy.

    The ‘better’ team CAN and often does lose..and I mean not just the better team on paper, but even the team that plays better.. Results don’t always correspond with performances. Sometimes it’s referees, sometimes it’s just luck..like I said..whichever scenario takes your fancy.

  18. bjtgooner
    21/12/2011

    @Andrei

    The point that is pleasing to Arsenal fans is that the difference between the teams was very slight. No one else has gone the oilers’ ground and given them such a game. As Walter and the ref. reviewer pointed out, Arsenal could have and should have taken a point if not all three. Thanks to the officials we did’t – I have no hesitation in blaming them for wrong desisions – and not just with the major decisions – Dowd failed to call a lot City fouls!

    At the end of the game the City players were very relieved to hear the final whistle. So perhaps you are being a bit unfair in your comment.

  19. bob
    21/12/2011

    bjtgooner,
    It’s not Riley that’s the problem – it’s who put him there.
    Here’s been put there because he’s Riley. Once he goes, if nothing else changes, there’ll be Riley by another name. It’s the position, not the man in it- because the structure is rotten.

  20. bob
    21/12/2011

    Andrei,
    This ref on this night has been the same ref on many other nights, when he’s set loose among the Arsenal. We have a history with him which you may not know about, or have chosen to ignore.

  21. WalterBroeckx
    21/12/2011

    Andrei, right or wrong the call was wrong at the end of the day and that is what matters.
    And if it is too difficult to judge (and I do admit it is sometimes too difficult to judge) well…why don’t they do something about it? Like using images to check the decision?

    Maybe football supporters should stop making excuses and start demanding improvement?

  22. Woolwich Peripatetic
    21/12/2011

    @Andrei,
    This would be the same city that has scored 49 goals in the league already if I’m not mistaken and gave United a battering at OT that makes our 8-2 look even worse in hindsight?

    Much like Almunia’s 45 minute goalkeeping masterclass from Barca’s first visit to the Emirates, there are three levels of defending:
    Deny any shots on target > deny any unsaveable shots on target > take a hammering. If you can’t manage the first, you’d better go all out for the second and pray your keeper is in form or suffer the third.
    Keepers often have the game of their season against us because their defence is smart enough to somehow force us to take shots the keeper can handle.

  23. Andrei
    21/12/2011

    @Walter and others. My comment was in context of original post asserting that Arsenal had a good game deserved at least a point and were denied because of the bad calls. I agree on the good game part, neutral on the bad calls and argue about the reasons why Arsenal was in contention and deserved anything in the game. My point is that City had a sub-par game and were there for the taking. Had they not been sloppy in finishing their chances all that talk about bad calls would have been moot. It would have been 3-1 or 3-2 at best. It seems that City is on the slump at the moment. They were sub-par against Chelsea too. Chelsea took their chances and won the game.

    The bottom line is: Arsenal had one of their best games this season. City on the other had an off day but were still the better team and all Arsenal realistically deserved was a point.

  24. bob
    21/12/2011

    Andrei,
    And we didn’t have our full complement of players, a battered back line, and so forth. So with that, I would say we had an off-day. N’est’ce pas?

  25. Woolwich Peripatetic
    22/12/2011

    @Andrei,
    My point was that if City had an off day, we are partially responsible. They’ve shown no hesitation in battering poor teams, like Tottenham or United. Only when confronted with CL grade opposition have they been held to a single goal lately…

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