23 responses

  1. nicky
    03/10/2016

    What with the match AND the club meeting, Walter, you must have had something to eat. Let’s have a catering report! 😉

  2. Florian
    03/10/2016

    Walter, as a tourist I experienced Belgium’s appetite for bilingual jokes many years ago. Speaking about Leuven, that is. When taking the train there from Strasbourg, I naturally used the French name, Louvain. The result is that I got a ticket to Louvain la Neuve, which is something else entirely. Not very far, but a different place. The Frenchmen had Leuven in their system by its Flemish name. How about that?

  3. Florian
    03/10/2016

    Oh, and, looking forward to the ref review. The AAA station that is ESPN apparently had something to say about Kos’s hand, and mostly his position, which was a bit suspect of offside, when Ox struck the ball. But I’ll leave it to you to decide 😉

  4. Mandy Dodd
    03/10/2016

    You just know it has been a good day when a curse was broken, Arsenal win in the last minute and the WOB are left angry and devastated after their earlier high of Spurs winning

  5. Leon
    03/10/2016

    Walter
    The goal was scored in time added onto added time, which I assume was for the small amount of goalkeeper time wasting.
    Burnley held us up for most of the match with a fine defensive display while creating three excellent chances of their own. In the end I was relieved to get those points when a draw looked inevitable .
    I’m in the “no goal” camp, but who cares we got the points.

  6. Leon
    03/10/2016

    Re goalkeerpers being penalised for time wasting, have you noticed how many of them are out of their areas when releasing the ball when kicking out?
    This as far as I know is a red card offence yet none ever get picked up on it these days. Before the “preventing a goal scoring opportunity” rule referees used to have a quick word with the goalkeepers to stop them doing this but they now do it with umpunity. And I never see it mentioned in your match reports.

  7. WalterBroeckx
    03/10/2016

    It needed some “special” to lift the curse and weel the least you can say about the goal was that it was a special goal. Haven’t seen anything like that before. Or at least not that I can remember….

  8. WalterBroeckx
    03/10/2016

    Nicky, no as it is only one hour away from home we just had our meals at home. Sorry, no catering report. 😉

  9. WalterBroeckx
    03/10/2016

    Florian a bit of history about Leuven and Louvain La Neuve. (From my head and how I remember it)
    In the old days (since the start of Belgium in 1830) the elite spoke mostly French even in Flanders. Only 100 years after the start of Belgium in 1930 the first Dutch speaking university was allowed to start. Before that Dutch was considered a language not being good enough to give higher education. That first Dutch speaking university was in Gent. (Ghent as you know it).Dutch was a paysants language for the elite and the French speaking part. (a generalisation of course as not all people thought the same)

    Leuven was a bit special as it was close to Brussels and had a French reputation but was situated in the Dutch speaking part of Belgium.
    When going to universities became not just the privilige of the very rich we got a movement that demanded also Dutch lessons in a university situated in Flanders. Add to this the atmosphere or rebellion that went through Europe in the sixties and you got the ideal mix for protests, demonstrations. I still remember the radio reports in the news as a kid (6-7 years) where you could hear the shouts, the sirenes, ….. I must say I found this a bit fascinating.

    I think we even had a governement that had to resign over the matter.

    Anyway after a while and with all the protests and violence the governemtn decided to make the university of Leuven a Flemish university and the French students got a brand new university build just over the linguistical border in Brabant Wallon (Leuven is in Vlaams Brabant)and they named it … Louvain La Neuve. If it would have been in English it would have been called New Leuven.

    Last year I was visiting a medical congress with my wife about Lyme disease in Louvain La Neuve and then had to go to Leuven to the Paradox to see us get shifted by Dean at Chelsea. The first match of the curse…. So yes they are not that far apart.

  10. MickHazel
    03/10/2016

    People, including a lot of the ‘experts’, complaining that the goal was scored after the 2 minutes added on time had passed show themselves up for what they are. Thick.
    If the referee wants to add on say two minutes thirty seconds he relays that as two minutes to the fourth official who indicates that time on his board. That is the minimum extra time to be played, the ref then blows when he sees fit after the two minutes has elapsed, surely even someone like Shearer should be able to grasp that simple concept.

  11. MickHazel
    03/10/2016

    Leon
    Two minutes added on was a bit stingy given the time wasting and the number of substitutions.
    It is normal for a ref to add 30 seconds for each substitution and I think there were 5 in yesterdays game.
    On that basis I am guessing that the ref allowed two and a half minutes for the substitutions and nothing for the time wasting.

  12. markyb
    03/10/2016

    The whole minimum time thing only gets brought up if someone scores a winner against us about a minute over

  13. bjtgooner
    03/10/2016

    I was out of town for the match & have not as yet watched the full recording. However, Dermot Gallagher this morning on SKY confirmed the disputed goal (mostly disputed by visually challenged punters!) was fair – Kos (not the Ox) kicked the ball – hence no offside, the ball struck Kos’s elbow on the way into the goal – but it ball to elbow, not elbow to ball – so ok.

    Video evidence seems to confirm this.

    A good three points – well done guys!

  14. para
    03/10/2016

    MickHazel
    I think the ref justs adds on extra for the time wasting and other short incidents taking place in the extra time (basically extra-extra time) as he sees fit.

    “The Curse” is more likely that the players heads are on the upcoming holidays and lose a little determination for the game. 🙂

    Anyway we got through, just.

  15. Pete
    03/10/2016

    Wow! Dermot Gallagher was on Arsenal’s side? Wonders will never cease…

  16. NuttnTiddy
    03/10/2016

    The Burnley game was certainly not played like a friendly but astonishingly there were only five fouls, three by Arsenal and two by Burnley, would be interested to know (if anyone has the information),is this the lowest ever in the premier league?
    In the Spuds/Mancity game there were thirty fouls, Twenty by the home team, ten by the away team. But then what do you expect from two teams who are declared push and shove specialists.

  17. Gord
    03/10/2016

    First game after the break is Swansea. They just sacked the manager (on his birthday). So, Swansea will have “extra incentive” in that game.

  18. omgarsenal
    03/10/2016

    IMHO, Kos’ arm was in a normal playing position, considering he was jumping up AND right beside the Ox. As well, the ball, kicked by him, was so fast that he had no time to actually prevent it from hitting his hand, therefore the goal stood. He couldn’t be offside because he was parallel to the OX when the Ox played the ball, therefore no offside call possible.

    The time wasting and added time issue is a moot point, as the referee is the ONLY timekeeper, but he does usually check with his assistant(s) to be sure there are no major disagreements between his watch and theirs. When I officiated, I asked the assistant on the bench side of the field to keep stopped time with me and the assistant on the other side to keep running time, thus ensuring that few errors could pop up.

    Leon…..impunity is spelt with an i, not a u….so probably a typo?

  19. Mandy Dodd
    03/10/2016

    Pete, refs and ex refs giving us a fair deal,almost a level playing field…all very strange…has someone seen the light?..maybe something to do with the Fa ….in my view , quite wrongly, thinking they can entice Wenger for England,after his recent…perhaps clever flirtations?
    or am i talking complete rubbish, and we are about to get Messrs Taylor, Dean and Atkinson in the next few games?

  20. Menace
    04/10/2016

    Alexis miss kicked the ball, Theo didn’t even realise it bounced off his head straight into Ox’s foot who knowing Kos was off side, passed it to him. I think that Kos then deliberately kicked the ball at his hand knowing his angles with a classic in off his hand. The ref only saw the net bulge with a ball & realising it was end of game went for the easy option of giving the goal so that he could get a few beers in at Wengers 20 year celebration.

    Leon knows that is what happened!!!

    Damn this whiskey is good.

  21. Gord
    04/10/2016

    Hmmm, Menace likes whiskey. And probably knows it isn’t whisky.

    Do you know port? What would you think of a “port” not made from grapes? But very red. Or at least before any aging.

  22. Pat
    04/10/2016

    I could just imagine the Paradox when that goal went in, Walter.

    Interesting about blocking the goalie – we have seen this in the past from some teams and without wanting to be rude, Burnley is the sort of team that would do it.

    Were you quite fair to include Santi in the first half blunderers? I think Arsenal.com gave him very good numbers for successful passes.

  23. Brickfields Gunners
    04/10/2016

    @ Menace -October 4, 2016 at 12:19 am – I like your version of the goal ! Lucky Arsenal!
    WOO HOO , HOO !

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