By Bulldog Drummond.
Tucked away in an article in the Guardian today about how wonderful life is becoming for Tottenham, is the fact that upon completion of their stadium Tottenham “will have banks debts of £400m to repay over a five-year period and they have pledged to find the rest of the required £850m themselves.”
The numbers, which are utterly extraordinary, have no explanation, and maybe there is one around that I have not seen, but what makes it all the more strange is that the headline reads “New era edges closer as Spurs seek to draw a line under austerity years”.
If they do it I will love to find out how. Over £100m repayment a year including interest, for five years. £850m not borrowed from the banks. Quite a target, and yes, if they can do that, it will be a case of hats off to them, providing we can see how. Obviously the rise in income from the TV companies is helping, but still, it is quite an extraordinary aim and risk.
But on to the football. We have won 81 games against Tottenham and lost 62. 51 have been draws. (These figures include matches from the era when Tottenham were playing in the Southern League, and so Arsenal and Tottenham only met in the United League, the Southern Combination and the London League, all of which involved the first teams.)
We have had a few long runs against them, but not as many as you might expect, largely because of Tottenham’s propensity for spending time in the second division.
Incidentally if anyone still thinks that something odd was done in 1919 with our election to the first division and Tottenham’s relegation to the second, there is now the biggest ever analysis of what actually happened, including references to all the contemporary reports of the matters, available for all to read.
There is a lot of it, because there are a lot of rumours and inventions surrounding the matter but I’ll give the links to the articles at the end.
We have had a run of six successive wins against Tottenham in 1987 to 1989 and then the period from 19 March 2000 to 9 January 2008 of not losing to them at all
|19 Mar 2000||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-1||Premier League|
|18 Dec 2000||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||1-1||Premier League|
|31 Mar 2001||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-0||Premier League|
|08 Apr 2001||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-1||FA Cup|
|17 Nov 2001||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||1-1||Premier League|
|06 Apr 2002||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-1||Premier League|
|16 Nov 2002||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||3-0||Premier League|
|15 Dec 2002||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||1-1||Premier League|
|08 Nov 2003||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-1||Premier League|
|25 Apr 2004||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||2-2||Premier League|
|13 Nov 2004||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||W||4-5||Premier League|
|25 Apr 2005||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||1-0||Premier League|
|29 Oct 2005||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||1-1||Premier League|
|22 Apr 2006||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||D||1-1||Premier League|
|02 Dec 2006||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||3-0||Premier League|
|24 Jan 2007||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||2-2||League Cup|
|31 Jan 2007||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||3-1||League Cup|
|21 Apr 2007||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||2-2||Premier League|
|15 Sep 2007||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||W||1-3||Premier League|
|22 Dec 2007||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-1||Premier League|
|09 Jan 2008||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||D||1-1||League Cup|
21 games without defeat. Quite a jolly time as I recall.
But if we look at the last ten there are only a couple of defeats in that
|04 Jan 2014||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-0||FA Cup|
|16 Mar 2014||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||W||0-1||Premier League|
|27 Sep 2014||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||D||1-1||Premier League|
|07 Feb 2015||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||L||2-1||Premier League|
|23 Sep 2015||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||W||1-2||League Cup|
|08 Nov 2015||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||D||1-1||Premier League|
|05 Mar 2016||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||D||2-2||Premier League|
|06 Nov 2016||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||D||1-1||Premier League|
|30 Apr 2017||Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal||L||2-0||Premier League|
|18 Nov 2017||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||2-0||Premier League|
Four wins, four draws and two defeats in the last ten.
Plus there is the fact that we normally win at Wembley.
- April 12, 2014: Wigan 1-1 Arsenal (Arsenal won 4-2 on penalties); FA Cup semifinal
- May 17, 2014: Arsenal 3-2 Hull 2; FA Cup final
- Aug. 10, 2014: Arsenal 3-0 Manchester City; Community Shield
- April 18, 2015: Reading 1-2 Arsenal; FA Cup semifinal
- May 30, 2015: Arsenal 4-0 Aston Villa; FA Cup final
- Aug. 2, 2015: Arsenal 1-0 Chelsea; Community Shield
- April 23, 2017: Arsenal 2-1 Manchester City; FA Cup semifinal
- May 27, 2017: Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea 1; FA Cup final
- Aug. 6, 2017: Arsenal 1-1 Chelsea (Arsenal won 4-1 on penalties); Community Shield
Injuries and the teams up next.
Arsenal and Tottenham and the election to the first division in 1919.
- April 1915: New revelations concerning perhaps the most important month in Arsenal’s history
- November / December 1915: the match fixing scandal comes to the fore: Norris is armed
The voting and the comments before and after the election
- The first suggestion that Arsenal could be elected to the 1st division.
- Arsenal in January 1919: rioting in the streets and the question of promotion
- What the media said about the election of Arsenal to the 1st division in 1919
- Arsenal prepare for the vote on who should be promoted to the First Division
- March 1919: The vote to extend the league and what the media said
- Why did the clubs vote for Arsenal rather than Tottenham in March 1919?
4 Replies to “Tottenham v Arsenal: how has it gone in the past”
Funny clicked in this article by chance don’t support either team. Still found it interesting but the fact remains that at this moment in time Tottenham are the better team. By all accounts their new stadium will be fantastic they have the best training facilities in the country, up & coming manager & right now have a much better team than Arsenal. Will it last don’t know but Arsenal fans should realise you can’t keep living in the past. Still think Arsenal will win today though.
It will be a tight contest but Arsenal will score them.Auba and ozil will b on the score sheet.
Wenger should change the 9 jersey for Lava.
The number 9,seems not to favour Laca else we shall not see the best out of him and it must be changed next season.
Gary Owen,spurs were rated better than Arsenal in their last meeting but Arsenal beat them.Don’t forget every Napoleon has it waterloo.