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Tottenham v Arsenal: how has it gone in the past

By Bulldog Drummond.

Tucked away in an article in the Guardian today about how wonderful life is becoming for Tottenham, is the fact that upon completion of their stadium Tottenham “will have banks debts of £400m to repay over a five-year period and they have pledged to find the rest of the required £850m themselves.”

The numbers, which are utterly extraordinary, have no explanation, and maybe there is one around that I have not seen, but what makes it all the more strange is that the headline reads “New era edges closer as Spurs seek to draw a line under austerity years”.

If they do it I will love to find out how.  Over £100m repayment a year including interest, for five years.  £850m not borrowed from the banks.   Quite a target, and yes, if they can do that, it will be a case of hats off to them, providing we can see how.   Obviously the rise in income from the TV companies is helping, but still, it is quite an extraordinary aim and risk.

But on to the football.   We have won 81 games against Tottenham and lost 62.  51 have been draws.  (These figures include matches from the era when Tottenham were playing in the Southern League, and so Arsenal and Tottenham only met in the United League, the Southern Combination and the London League, all of which involved the first teams.)

We have had a few long runs against them, but not as many as you might expect, largely because of Tottenham’s propensity for spending time in the second division.

Incidentally if anyone still thinks that something odd was done in 1919 with our election to the first division and Tottenham’s relegation to the second, there is now the biggest ever analysis of what actually happened, including references to all the contemporary reports of the matters, available for all to read.

There is a lot of it, because there are a lot of rumours and inventions surrounding the matter but I’ll give the links to the articles at the end.

We have had a run of six successive wins against Tottenham in 1987 to 1989 and then the period from 19 March 2000 to 9 January 2008 of not losing to them at all

Date Game Res Score Competition
19 Mar 2000 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-1 Premier League
18 Dec 2000 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 1-1 Premier League
31 Mar 2001 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-0 Premier League
08 Apr 2001 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-1 FA Cup
17 Nov 2001 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 1-1 Premier League
06 Apr 2002 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-1 Premier League
16 Nov 2002 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 3-0 Premier League
15 Dec 2002 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 1-1 Premier League
08 Nov 2003 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-1 Premier League
25 Apr 2004 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 2-2 Premier League
13 Nov 2004 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal W 4-5 Premier League
25 Apr 2005 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 1-0 Premier League
29 Oct 2005 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 1-1 Premier League
22 Apr 2006 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur D 1-1 Premier League
02 Dec 2006 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 3-0 Premier League
24 Jan 2007 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 2-2 League Cup
31 Jan 2007 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 3-1 League Cup
21 Apr 2007 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 2-2 Premier League
15 Sep 2007 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal W 1-3 Premier League
22 Dec 2007 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-1 Premier League
09 Jan 2008 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur D 1-1 League Cup

21 games without defeat.  Quite a jolly time as I recall.

But if we look at the last ten there are only a couple of defeats in that

Date Game Res Score Competition
04 Jan 2014 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-0 FA Cup
16 Mar 2014 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal W 0-1 Premier League
27 Sep 2014 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur D 1-1 Premier League
07 Feb 2015 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal L 2-1 Premier League
23 Sep 2015 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal W 1-2 League Cup
08 Nov 2015 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur D 1-1 Premier League
05 Mar 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal D 2-2 Premier League
06 Nov 2016 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur D 1-1 Premier League
30 Apr 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal L 2-0 Premier League
18 Nov 2017 Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-0 Premier League

Four wins, four draws and two defeats in the last ten.

Plus there is the fact that we normally win at Wembley.

  • April 12, 2014: Wigan 1-1 Arsenal (Arsenal won 4-2 on penalties); FA Cup semifinal
  • May 17, 2014: Arsenal 3-2 Hull 2; FA Cup final
  • Aug. 10, 2014: Arsenal 3-0 Manchester City; Community Shield
  • April 18, 2015: Reading 1-2 Arsenal; FA Cup semifinal
  • May 30, 2015: Arsenal 4-0 Aston Villa; FA Cup final
  • Aug. 2, 2015: Arsenal 1-0 Chelsea; Community Shield
  • April 23, 2017: Arsenal 2-1 Manchester City; FA Cup semifinal
  • May 27, 2017: Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea 1; FA Cup final
  • Aug. 6, 2017: Arsenal 1-1 Chelsea (Arsenal won 4-1 on penalties); Community Shield

Injuries and the teams up next.

Arsenal and Tottenham and the election to the first division in 1919.

The preliminaries

The voting and the comments before and after the election

4 comments to Tottenham v Arsenal: how has it gone in the past

  • Gary Owen

    Funny clicked in this article by chance don’t support either team. Still found it interesting but the fact remains that at this moment in time Tottenham are the better team. By all accounts their new stadium will be fantastic they have the best training facilities in the country, up & coming manager & right now have a much better team than Arsenal. Will it last don’t know but Arsenal fans should realise you can’t keep living in the past. Still think Arsenal will win today though.

  • Bori Moses

    It will be a tight contest but Arsenal will score them.Auba and ozil will b on the score sheet.
    Wenger should change the 9 jersey for Lava.

  • Bori Moses

    The number 9,seems not to favour Laca else we shall not see the best out of him and it must be changed next season.

  • Bori Moses

    Gary Owen,spurs were rated better than Arsenal in their last meeting but Arsenal beat them.Don’t forget every Napoleon has it waterloo.