by Bulldog Drummond
Arsenal have beaten West Ham, many more times than they have beaten us, as you might imagine. We’ve won 64, they’ve won 34 and there have been 39 draws.
In the Leslie Knighton era – the time which he reported in his autobiography that he was giving drugs to his Arsenal team to make them run more and play faster – West Ham had their best run against Arsenal; they won four, drew two and lost just one against Arsenal…
|27 Aug 1923||West Ham United v Arsenal||L||1-0||Division One|
|10 Sep 1923||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||4-1||Division One|
|27 Sep 1924||West Ham United v Arsenal||L||1-0||Division One|
|14 Jan 1925||West Ham United v Arsenal||D||0-0||FA Cup|
|21 Jan 1925||Arsenal v West Ham United||D||2-2||FA Cup|
|26 Jan 1925||Arsenal v West Ham United||L||0-1||FA Cup|
|23 Mar 1925||Arsenal v West Ham United||L||1-2||Division One|
But since we got a proper manager they’ve had a much harder time of things. They did have a run of 12 games in the 1960s when they only lost three to Arsenal, but most of the others were draws.
In recent times it has been much better with just one defeat to them in the last 21.
|29 Sep 2007||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||0-1||Premier League|
|01 Jan 2008||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||2-0||Premier League|
|26 Oct 2008||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||0-2||Premier League|
|31 Jan 2009||Arsenal v West Ham United||D||0-0||Premier League|
|25 Oct 2009||West Ham United v Arsenal||D||2-2||Premier League|
|03 Jan 2010||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||1-2||FA Cup|
|20 Mar 2010||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||2-0||Premier League|
|30 Oct 2010||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||1-0||Premier League|
|15 Jan 2011||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||0-3||Premier League|
|06 Oct 2012||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||1-3||Premier League|
|23 Jan 2013||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||5-1||Premier League|
|26 Dec 2013||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||1-3||Premier League|
|15 Apr 2014||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||3-1||Premier League|
|28 Dec 2014||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||1-2||Premier League|
|14 Mar 2015||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||3-0||Premier League|
|09 Aug 2015||Arsenal v West Ham United||L||0-2||Premier League|
|09 Apr 2016||West Ham United v Arsenal||D||3-3||Premier League|
|03 Dec 2016||West Ham United v Arsenal||W||1-5||Premier League|
|05 Apr 2017||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||3-0||Premier League|
|13 Dec 2017||West Ham United v Arsenal||D||0-0||Premier League|
|19 Dec 2017||Arsenal v West Ham United||W||1-0||League Cup|
Indeed as you can see there was a run of 10 straight Arsenal wins between 2010 and 2015.
In terms of injuries Physioroom show us mid-table which must be giving Stewart Robson palpitations. Still at least he has got his wish and seen Mr Wenger leave the club. Here’s the physio table…
|#||TEAM||Men down||Last man out||What’s up?|
|3||West Ham United||6||A Ogbonna||Knee Injury|
|4||Liverpool||6||D Lovren||Muscle Fatigue|
|5||West Bromwich Albion||5||H Robson-Kanu||Conussion|
|6||Crystal Palace||5||C Wickham||Groin Strain|
|7||Everton||5||D Calvert-Lewin||Hip Injury|
|8||Swansea City||5||L Narsingh||Ankle Injury|
|9||Leicester City||5||S Okazaki||Ankle Injury|
|10||Arsenal||4||J Wilshere||Ankle Injury|
Our four men out are Ramsey, who could be fit for today but I suspect won’t be risked, Jack Wilshere who is noted as having a late fitness test but again might not be risked, Mkhitaryan who certainly won’t play although his return date has now come forward to the middle of next week, and of course Santi of whom Mr Wenger said he would have a look at in the summer to see if he could have a new contract.
Such thoughts are of course now gone, but let’s hope the new manager realises what a talent Santi is, if only he could be brought back to fitness.
The issue is, how many players will be left out to make sure they are ok for the mid-week game.
The BBC on its website says the atmosphere will be quite different, as “Amid the discontent and the falling attendances, even the most disgruntled Arsenal fan has no longer any need for the ‘Wenger Out’ banners. It has become a time to celebrate the overall achievements of Arsene Wenger rather than moan about his recent decline.”
I don’t think they quite realise the level of vindictiveness and sheer bloody mindedness that exists among those who run Arsenal Fans TV and the little bloggettas. Not to mention some in the national press, as we saw yesterday.
West Ham are holding onto the idea that their last two league wins over Arsenal have both come away from home: 2-0 in 2015 and 1-0 in 2007. But we have scored at least three goals in each of their last five home games in all competitions – the last time we went six in a row scoring three or more was at the start of the 1958/9 season. Just in case you are a real ol’ timer here are the results to remind you…
|26 Aug 1958||Arsenal v Burnley||W||3-0||Division One|
|30 Aug 1958||Arsenal v Leicester City||W||5-1||Division One|
|09 Sep 1958||Arsenal v Bolton Wanderers||W||6-1||Division One|
|13 Sep 1958||Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur||W||3-1||Division One|
|20 Sep 1958||Arsenal v Manchester City||W||4-1||Division One|
|04 Oct 1958||Arsenal v West Bromwich||W||4-3||Division One|
So to the teams…
It really is hard to know who will be rested before Thursday’s game. Some are obvious like Koscielny but others are less so. Let’s try this option
Chambers Mustafi Holding Monreal
Iwobi Lacazette Aubameyang
That gives us two defensive midfielders in Xhaka and Elneny and a lot of fire power up front. It gives Ozil the day off, along with Ramsey and Wilshere – even if they are fit. But instead of Willock we could use Nelson, or indeed bring in the fit-again Maitland-Niles at full back.
But taking that team as it stands that would leave on the beach
Ospina or Macey (I suspect Macey even if Ospina is fit, to allow Ospina to be ok for Thursday), Mertesacker, Özil, Welbeck, Maitland-Niles, Kolasinac, Bellerín.
But of course we are trying to guess two games here so it could be quite different (and not for the first time!)
Much of the Untold team including Tony, Blacksheep, Andrew and Walter, are all meeting up at the stadium, and we will probably be having a get together after the game, so there probably won’t be any more from Untold today – but we’ll be back on Monday of course.
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