How referees justify VAR, how Man U justify losses, and how Arsenal cope with injuries

 

 

By Bulldog Drummond

And then since Havertz was, during the early part of last season, moving forward from his midfield position that approach could be used again.

The alternative is to have Trossard up top with Saka on one side and either Martinelli or Sterling on the other, with whichever doesn’t start coming on as a sub.

Then there is also the option of playing Ethan Nwaneri given that he played in the pre-season games.  Obviously if Smith Rowe had still been with Arsenal he would be in the team, but the general view was that Smith Rowe went both because he wanted more games, and because Nwaneri was lying in wait for a chance.  And having Nwarneri play would certainly take Tottenham by surprise.

This is one of many moments in my day when I’m glad I just go and watch the team rather than pick the team.. 

8 Replies to “How referees justify VAR, how Man U justify losses, and how Arsenal cope with injuries”

  1. I wouldn’ t complain to a midfield of Partey , Jourginho and Timbre or Trassoud .

  2. The Premier League has changed its policy regarding team sheets for this season. They must be handed in 75 minutes before kick-off.

    I seem to remember that the Premier League were claiming that 97-98% of decisions were correct before VAR. If they are now only 96%, I wonder what could be the cause of the decline.

    From the games I’ve seen so far this season, referees and VAR seem to getting at least 3 MAJOR decisions wrong in each match.

  3. seismic

    “From the games I’ve seen so far this season, referees and VAR seem to getting at least 3 MAJOR decisions wrong in each match”

    I cannot say I’ve watched the games closely enough to know whether that is true or not but given what I have seen, especially of course with regards to Arsenal, I have no doubt that your observations are pretty accurate.

    Except me, you, Tony and all of us at Untold Arsenal are obviously mistaken, because as I have already pointed out elsewhere, according to the KMI panel:

    “Of the 23 on-field incidents looked into from the third weekend of the Premier League of the season, only one was deemed to be incorrect”.

    And read this and weep:

    “So far this season there has been little real controversy in the Premier League, with only one VAR decision ruled to be incorrect…….While there have been no other VAR errors….”

    I mean you have to be insane to even think that, let alone state it publicly.

    But it just shows how arrogant and deluded these people are, but perhaps more importantly it shows how they simply do not care how they are actually perceived.

  4. I find it incredible to believe that any game I have watched in the last few seasons in Europe has anywhere near 90% accuracy from the officials. I may be nit picking but most of the leagues I watch have at least 5 to 10 errors per half. In EURO 24 I watched perhaps a few minutes of some matches – every time I watched for a short while there was a glaring error. One example was Cristiano Ronaldo in Georgia v Portugal where he pointed out the ref that he had his shirt pulled – clearly visible on the replay – VAR completely ignored this. The ref then booked CR – he should have given Portugal a penalty! Funny how VAR did not intervene!

    I do not watch the EPL, and haven’t done for the last few years, as the PIGMOB are probably the worst refereeing body I have ever seen. It is just so biased as to make the games unwatchable.

    La Liga is just as bad – although to give then credit Spanish fans say that there is no corruption just totally incompetent officials.

    Every now and then a match appears to be refereed correctly. This is the exception not the rule. Correct officiating should be the standard all referees should aspire to – with VAR it should be much easier.

    The governing bodies are always pushing the message “Refereeing is a difficult job”. I realise that but ALL of the governing bodies are not willing to discuss the problems and do even less to rectify obvious shortcomings.

    With multiple cameras at games fans can actually work out what is going on when errors are made. I am fed up with games being decided by how many errors the officials make.

    I am at the point that for my own health I will not watch games with certain officials in charge as they appear to be refereeing a completely different game to the one unfolding in front of them.

    The media don’t help at all as they are just as biased. Most of the time I watch games with no sound.

  5. So, we have Howard Webb at (Chief Refereeing Officer at PGMOL) and Tony Scholes (Chief Football Officer at the Premier League) both doubling down (and not for the first time) on the matter of poor refereeing.

    It’s good to see some supporters of other clubs, specifically Man. Utd and even Tottenham put aside partisan issues after realising that Arsenal are being handled in a different manner to other teams.

  6. seismic

    “It’s good to see some supporters of other clubs, specifically Man. Utd and even Tottenham put aside partisan issues after realising that Arsenal are being handled in a different manner to other teams.”

    Is that true? A genuine question and I would be interested to know.

    Before I retired I worked in a predominantly male work place, of which many were football fans. My base was within earshot of Selhurst Park, therefore a fair few were Palace fan.

    Although quite a fair bunch I would say that generally they felt that Palace were the worst treated by referees, but more pertinently to a man they felt the ‘big teams’ were ALWAYS favoured, and they definitely included Arsenal in that.

    I always found Man Utd, and Spurs fans were generally balanced when it came to the footballing side. Best teams, players, who played best, how a match might go, who deserved to win.

    There was also some sympathy as to how we were treated in the media, especially by talksport, although they just found it funny.

    But I never got the feeling any fans thought anything other than it was THEIR team that got screwed by referees.

    So, in general, when talking about teams and players it was all pretty convivial.

    How your own team was refereed was a different story altogether, and by and large was a subject best avoided.

    Although I have seen a couple of high profile ‘bloggers’ coming to Arsenals defence over a few incidents, especially the Rice one, the comments section is still as partisan as ever.

    The most common theme is along the lines of ‘how can Arsenal complain about x, y and z, when they got away with a, b and c”? And these comparisons don’t just go back to last week or even last year, they often go back decades.

    So, if you have seen a bit of ‘fan’ sympathy/support for how we are being refereed, and I’m not questioning what you have seen, it will be a massive shift from anything I have experienced, ever.

    But to be fair, I am out of the mess room environment now, and read little media, and zero social media.

    PS I do not count Chelsea fans amongst any of the above because to a man their fans are a bunch of ********

  7. One of Mark Goldbridge’s YouTube channels featured the Rice sending-off on the day it happened. Terry Flewers’ The Football Terrace had a video discussion of the same incident, highlighting Dermot Gallagher’s hypocrisy a couple of days later. I saw a few Spurs supporters on Twitter highlighting the PGMOL inconsistency in the last couple of weeks.

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