By Bulldog Drummond
And so we approach the Community Shield, once known as the Charity Shield until the FA were found by the Charity Commission not to be keeping proper records and so were fined and forbidden from using the name “Charity Shield” again. How much money actually went to charities – if any – year by year was never revealed either for the Charity Shield or its successor.
As a result quite what the “community” bit of the Community Shield means no one seems to know and the FA won’t reveal how much money they give to anyone else as a result of this event, although obviously with no crowd there this year the amount they’ll receive will be reduced.
Arsenal have won the Shield three times in the last ten years and are one of only three clubs who have won the Shield, or its predecessor ten or more times. Top top three are Shield winners being…
- Manchester United (17 wins, four shared trophies – last win 2016)
- Arsenal (14 wins, one shared trophy – last win 2017)
- Liverpool (10 wins, five shared trophies – last win 2006)
Interestingly, FA Cup winners generally do quite well in the following season. Here’s a list of the FA Cup finals from 2000/1 onwards, showing where the winner and loser of the cup final were in the league the next season. Where there is no entry the club was not in the Premier League.
What we can see is that generally the winner of the FA Cup does better than the loser in the final, in the following season, which could bode well for Arsenal.
|Season||Winner||Score||Loser||Next lge pos for winner||Next lge pos for loser|
|2006||Liverpool||3–3||West Ham U||3|
|2011||Manchester City||1–0||Stoke City||1||14|
|2013||Wigan Athletic||1–0||Manchester City||1|
|2016||Manchester U||2–1||Crystal Palace||3||14|
So on that basis we can be looking forward to a good season, for only three times has the Cup winner not ended up in the top four the following season. Although undoubtedly if that happens and we feel buoyed up by the that at the end of the season, only to be told “Fourth is not a trophy”.
Community Shield games don’t normally result in many goals, the norm being the winner getting between one and three, the loser getting between zero and two. Here are the last ten years…
|2011||Manchester United||3–2||Manchester City|
|2013||Manchester United||2–0||Wigan Athletic|
|2016||Manchester United||2–1||Leicester City|
But of course few people really remember too much about the Community Shield – which is exactly what the FA want in order to avoid anyone asking questions about where the money goes. We are of course then straight onto the league games.
After the run in the Champions League from 1989 to 2014 Arsenal have since missed qualification for the Champs League by between one and 12 points with an improvement in goal difference of up to 13 (or an extra point) needed to get us into the top four.
Last season, turning six of our draws (out of the 14 drawn games) into wins, and through that scoring just eight goals, we would have been in the top four – even though our actual final position of 8th was the worst since 1995 when we finished 12th.
But that thought can be a bit misleading, because across time it is often 73 points that is needed to get fourth place, 17 points more than we got last season.
However what is often missed in all this is that in the last seven seasons we have won four major trophies (the FA Cup in each season) – plus one runners’ up position (in the Europa) if we want to throw that in as well.
Obviously I am not going to say that winning the FA Cup is as big a deal as winning the League, but it is still a damn sight better than some pretenders to trophies manage. Here’s the comparison…
Liverpool during this time have won two trophies – and of course they are the trophies we would most love to win, (League and Champs League) but across those seven years it is still just two trophies.
Manchester City have won the league three times times, the League Cup five times, and the FA Cup once. That is not a bad target to aim for, especially if it can be done without bringing the wrath of football down on our heads and then escaping on a technicality of timing.
Manchester United have won the FA Cup once, the League Cup once and the Europa League once.
Chelsea have won the league twice, the FA Cup once, the League Cup once and the Europa League once.
Tottenham Hots have won…
Of course I would like us to be winning the League and the Europa this coming season, and another FA Cup would be nice too thus making a fourth double, but I think we can be fairly pleased that despite the massive chaos of remorseless media criticism, the endless negativity of AFTV and others, and three managers in three seasons, we still have picked up some bits of silver.
Here’s the seven year list of trophies won as a table:
- Manchester City: 9
- Chelsea: 5
- Arsenal: 4
- Manchester United: 3
- Liverpool: 2
- Tottenham Hots: 0
Time now therefore to push on a bit further.
- Those Arsenal matches without crowds and not shown on TV & 4 fantastic tales
- So that’s 50% of pre-season done, and those who looked seemed to think it ok
- What marks out a winning season? Revealing football’s complexity.
- Is Tottenham part of the world? The club seeks urgent clarification.
- Congratulations Arsene: welcome to the hall of fame
- How will the final league table look? Our laptop computer reports
- If Arsenal go on like this, what will the final table look like?
- Only a handful of teams can win the league: but nothing has changed.
2 Replies to “Which of the “big six” have won the most trophies in the last seven years?”
Liverpool have also won European Supercup (against Chelsea) and Club World Championship (against Flamengo).
I also left out charity shield victories – there has to be a limit somewhere.
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